The citizens of this country better stand up soon or we will all be begging for more from our overseer’s

I’m missing the point here. Or is there a point?

I find it sad that foreign workers are brought to Canada when there are able bodied Canadians that could do the work. The question is, WOULD they do it?

It appears that Dragonmaster “got the point”.

I think Nao got the point as well. We have raised too many spoiled white brats who have been given everything and don’t know how to work or care to know how to!

It takes some a bit longer than others. I do nt mind that.

However, when the Prime Minister is one of those, then I start to worry big time.

Harper is our biggest problem and the longer he stays in government the problem is getting larger.

So, the USA does not know where 400,000 of its citizens are.

Canada does not know how many “foreign worker” are here.

You know, if one does not have a definition for what a foreign worker is, it really puts a limit on the ability to determine how many foreign workers we have.

I do agree with axman on this though. Those who are here, pay taxes, rent housing, buy cars, buy all sorts of other things, and maybe even bring family here, they are immigrants and paying into the system and allowing us to be productive as a nation.

Maybe it is impossible for Cullen … of course, he used the word “nearly” impossible. Sly, isn’t he?

Taking a page from Romney’s book … LOL.

Look far enough back in your families past and you will find your roots are foreign.

So if the Canadians don’t want to work for that wage then I’m sure someone from another country will. So do we stop importing people to do these jobs? Maybe but we will have to convince the ones that are here to step up to the plate. I doubt that will happen!

this may be true, but the majority of the ‘foreign workers’ are employed at low paying service jobs. (tim hortons, KFC, dairy queen, etc). when the workers are far from home there is, i am afraid, more room for abuse by employers.(was a big legal problem with denny’s restaurants having to pay a lot of ‘temps’ a piss pot full of money)

If we are going to bring foreign workers into the country, then we should do everything in our power to at least pay them the same as what Canadian workers would get, offer them the same benefits, etc.

To me, this would ensure that such workers are only utilized when there is a shortage of Canadian workers to do the job and IMHO, that is a smart use of immigration or temporary workers.

If, on the other hand, foreign workers are brought in as a SUBSTITUTE for Canadian workers or as a way for businesses to get away with paying people less and offer lower benefits, then in the long run this practise will drive down the standard of living for Canadian workers as well. To me, that is counterproductive the advancement of our country and the practise should not be allowed.

This certainly isn’t a new phenomenon. This has happened before throughout history and in empires much larger than the current Western dominated one. Common citizens no longer want to perform tasks deemed menial so the work is farmed out to foreigners while the indiginous population gets lazier and lazier. Soon the “foreigners” outnumber the “native” population and regimes change.

It happened before and it will happen again. Thing is…. What can we do to change it? Laws to restrict foreign ownership would be a good start. Laws that protect wages so we can ensure foreign workers get paid the same as regular workers would help too.

Do most of the homeless people in this province know (or even care) about this? Especially the not mentally ill ones?

Its been like that since 1972 when i worked on a heavy-water plant in Nove Scotia and an oil refinery in St.John N.B.,1975. Not much has changed i all them years. Go Canada Go.

How much money is sent home by so called foreign workers and how does that affect our financial state?

“while the indiginous population gets lazier and lazier”

Interesting notion ….

So how would you go about differentiating between that hypothesis and, let’s just pick one other for his purpose, that more and more people, as a percentage of the workforce, are working at more knowledge and advanced skill based jobs than servant (as opposed to service) type jobs?

There are Canadians working all over the world in the mining and oil industries. I think we need to keep that in mind when we talk about temporary workers here.

I would like to see the temporary workers paid what they are worth here. I just returned home from 7 weeks of industry training in Maple Ridge. There were busloads of Mexican workers picking fruit and vegetables for us to eat . I doubt that very many Canadians would do this kind of work regardless of what the pay is.

If the wages were decent the cost of groceries would go up. If Canadians made clothing the cost would go up. So as long as we have a Wal Mart mentality we will get what we deserve.

How many union members (I’m not anti Union) would shop at unionized retail outlets if the price was a little higher? The cross border shopping is another example of how truly Canadian we are. Maybe those that do it can get health care well they are down in the States .

It’s pretty easy to blame the government for any thing that is wrong. Maybe we should all look in the mirror and think about where we are headed if changes aren’t made.

Good post boomer. Unfortunately, most people don’t connect the dots on stuff like that.

Good post boomer. I agree.

Good post boomer. I agree 100%, we have helped create this enviornment.

I remember a time in the not to distant past when Pat Bell was looking around at all his fine workers at Wendy’s and asking himself, ‘how can I pay these people less when we have a minimum wage I have to pay them by law’?

That is when the temporary training wage came into being and the slippery slide to the bottom of the wage scale in Canada… now he’s our minister of jobs and tourism and so goes the province of BC.

I agree with the idea any foreign worker in Canada should be paid on par with their Canadian counterpart and have the same protections under the law. If not then what and who is our country all about?

These days we see everything the Harper government does is to diminish Canadian sovereignty under our constitution. In this I mean every second week we find out about a new ominibus bill, international agreement in trade, copy rights, banking, capital investments… and so on and so forth that all have one thing in common.

They extinguish national law and standards being over ridden by these new international agreements over seen by appointed bureaucrats. Its to the point where our constitution and our national parliament are being effectively buried and cut out of the equation entirely.

I say forget about picking on the immigrant trying to earn a living and instead we need to be visiting our politicians with pitch fork mobs for their own crimes by treaty against our country.

We’ve heard a lot about the recent undemocratic implementation of the China-Canada foreign trade and investment treaty…. but hows this latest one for a zinger.

The Canada-EU Trade Agreement where they are policy laundering the worst of the monopoly capitalist bankster doctrinal code. In this case they are pushing through the back door the Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (for the movie industry) which was shot down by the still unelected European Parliament only last year (for its threats to national cultures), but appears word for word in the new Canada-Eu Trade Agreement, which would in effect push through ACTA into law in Europe through a trade treaty with Canada (and would be used to regulate the internet). This is a Harper specialty… to pass law through stealth via unrelated bills and trade agreements.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/ceta-replicates-acta

So if you have deep pockets to buy the bureaucrats and politicians you can have laws implemented on a nation that would never pass through that nations democratic process. That is the world we live in today and is the reality of Harpers notion of ‘enlightened sovereignty’ meaning the appearance of sovereignty, but in reality the subservience to international trade agreements and unelected world bodies.

At first we all blamed the immigrants, than we found out we are all just part time immigrants as far as the new world corpocray is concerned.

Eagleone, you have hit the mark…;]

I do agree..;]