Well good luck with being more affordable!
The government was pushing a couple of years ago to have internet in more remote/rural areas. Like any program – pay one thousand dollars and get a hundred dollars of assistance.

So tell me Gofaster, is he government supposed to lie down and play dead until the election just because you are callig everything they do an election ploy?

It works this way. We are never going to be entering a time when eveything is working 100% and we have 100% of the things we actually need and much of what we actually want.

Add to that the fact that some of us are more in need of some other services.

Since you posted on here and have done so in the past, you obviously are not in need of internet access since you already have it.

So why don’t we let those in need and want internet acess to tell us if this is an election ploy or something they have been hoping for for some time.

I say it is about time everyone is hooked up to today’s version of the telegraph.

I hardly consider Red Rock remote, yet we still do not have affordable internet. Tired of hearing about these promises.

If you have a Phone, Telus could provide HiSpeed Internet, if only Telus would spend the Money. To me it’s the same Excuses as in the Days of Party Lines, all it takes Money to upgrade. The real remote Location don’t have any Hydro or Phone(Landline), ask them how much it cost them to run a Generator , did any one help to pay for this, I don’t think so.

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/29/bits-pics-video-calls-from-the-top-of-the-world

Cell calls and internet access from the top of Mount Everest …..

The question is how much does it cost to get remote access. Who will pay? Perhaps it will be like some other services, the rates will be levelled off to some extent so that those in low cost service areas would be subsidizing the basic costs everywhere.

Our lives are heading in the direction where cell phone as well as internet access is a very close to basic need.

Another of Gus’s know all see all posts. Get away from the internet and find how the real world works Gus.
Cheers

If you want to live in the sticks then you should learn to deal with the drawbacks. For example, I live in a frozen hellhole so I have to accept high heading costs etc.

Bingo weaksauce. Seems that people who live out in the middle of nowhere want the same services as people who live in town. Well, it’s either not gonna happen or it’s gonna be expensive.

People who live in remote City’s like Prince George which is 500 Miles from the largest Metropolitian areas want the same service’s as the big Cities.

Ie: Cancer Clinics, Performing Arts Centre’s, Universitys, WHL Hockey franchises, huge under utilized Airports, and an array of useless twinned bridges, and highways.

Why would a City (town) of 71,000 people be entitled to all these amenities, but people in remoter area’s not have access to high speed internet, or cell phone’s??

People in the mountains of Bora Bora, in Afghanistan have better cell service that our own people between Pr George and Dawson Creek, or Edmonton.

Have a nice day.

You know, I really do not understand why we should have a 4 lane highway between here and wherever .. north, south, east, west ….

I think we should be happy that we have a more or less paved road. If you want to live here, or if you want to live in Burns Lake, or Germanson Landing, then figure out the consequences before you move.

Hey, if we were thinking that way some 500 years ago we would have been born where our ancestors came from and those who came here thousands of years ago would have evolved into a much better society without all these McAppleGadgets.

;-)

Enjoy your Sunday afternoon drive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_9ZHMKYxxQ&feature=related

All these awesome spending announcements prior to an election. It doesn’t take a burger flipper to see what’s going on here. The last year of any governments term in office should free of this type of vote buying.

“People in the mountains of Bora Bora, in Afghanistan have better cell service that our own people between Pr George and Dawson Creek, or Edmonton.”

Well, if the war in Afghanistan can change the place and people to look like Bora Bora, I’d move there. Cell service or not! ;-)

http://www.borabora.com/

You got me there Dragonmaster. I was referring to the Tora Bora Mountains of Afghanistan, not Bora Bora. I suspect both places have better cell service than we do.

Gus. Those who want to build four lane highways before there is a need are just wasting money.

Those kinds of people would also build

Airport Runways on the basis of **build it and they will come**

2. University based on no ability to attract students.

3. Community Energy Systems, based on Voo Doo economics.

4. Sports Centre based on flawed economics, so that we face a $600,000.00 annual short fall in revenue.

5. A WHL franchise that actually costs the City in excess of $60,000.00 per year, and now averages less than 2000 fans a game. (Getting very close to the Spruce Kings numbers)

6. A lite industrial area with all the bells and whistles, (Boundry Road) based on the above premise **build it and they will come**., ignoring the fact that we already have at least 6 other industrial area’s that are under utilized.

7. A diking system to hold back a possible flood that **might** happen once every 200 years.

8. A performing Arts Centre, even though they already have a Playhouse Theatre, Vanier Hall, Theatre Northwest, Civic Centre, and CN Centre.

All this based of the premise that the City will grow.

Problem is every indicator in the Province, ie; Provincial, Regional, and Municipal, indicates that this will not happen. The Provincial Governments own stats predicts the population of North Central BC will remain static until 2030.

We have closed 17/18 schools in the district. Enrolments are down in Schools, CNC, and UNBC. We have lost 15 or more major industries in North Central BC.

So why are we building infrastructure for a depressed area, that cannot even utilize the infrastructure it already has???

Its not to get ready for a **Boom** in fact it is the Government throwing money into a **depressed** area.

So, we dont build four lane highways before they are needed, the same as we dont build a tree house before we plant a tree. Its really not that complicated.

“A diking system to hold back a possible flood that **might** happen once every 200 years.”

With some additional context for many f your other points, I certainly think you have the start of something.

With that one, I think you have gone too far. How many years of pictures do we have of ice jams, as well as freshette floods in the late spring, early summer. They have happened in a serious fashion for at least 10 to 20 times since the founding of this City less than 100 years ago.

Is a dike the way to protect us. I agree, it is not.

Is dredging the way to protect us. No, dredging is not the way to protect anyplace from flooding. Dredging is a way to increase the depth of a waterway to used as a navigation channel. The Mississippi River flood control program is an excellent example of that on this continent. The Rhine in Europe is another excellent example of a river which is dredged for navigation but it does not control flooding.

The only way is to recognize what the natural profiles of the waterway are and remove all expensive human made assets from those areas which are subject to seasonal flooding. In some cases local profiles can be altered by artificially raising the level of the land above the flood plain.

Humans are amazingly inventive …..

How to build a tree house without a tree
http://www.ehow.com/how_5005173_build-tree-house-tree.html

http://estrip.org/content/users/paul/0910/ironArtOn219TreeHouse_jpg.jpg

“A performing Arts Centre, even though they already have a Playhouse Theatre, Vanier Hall, Theatre Northwest, Civic Centre, and CN Centre.”

You forgot the Coliseum, theatres at UNBC as well as CNC, UNBC’s Agora as well as the sport centre, the outdoor theatre at Fort George Park, the one at Duchess Park, Columbus and other Community Halls, many of the churches, etc. etc ….. and then we have the streets of PG (sadly no subways) for street theatre and music.

The new hangar at the airport also would make a great venue … move out the planes for a few days and bring in some protable bleachers and one could have a great rock concert in there.

We’re fixed for the next one hundred year

;-).

Finally we are making some progress. We could also have an outdoor performance on the Airport Runway Expansion. Should be able to seat 15000 people without any problem. Plus no fear of getting hit by a plane.

Your somewhat right with the dike situation, however when you deal with only the floods that have taken place since they built the Kenny Dam you start to see that your argument doesnt hold water. (Pun intended)

The reduction in water in the Nechako in the 1950’s because of the dam, resulted in more and more silting. If you were to look at the river to-day, you would note that the South side is dry and completely jammed with gravel and silt from the West end of the steel bridge to the North West end of Cottonwood park.(Because of low water at this time of year its easy to see the silting) At one time this was the main channel and joined the Fraser on a right hand turn just North of the bridge.

We now have a situation where the main channel is now on the North side and joins the Fraser at the North East side adjacent to the pulp mills. This change in the channel (contrary to popular opinion) is not natural. Rather it is a result of the lower water in the river because of the Kenney dam, and silting on the South side.

As a result of not keeping the South Channel clear we have now created a situation where flooding can (and does) take place when inordinate amounts of water are released into the River during the Winter months.

In addition since the building of the Kenny dam, we have located three pulp mills, one refinery, and two chemical plants along the North side of the Nechako and Fraser River. This results in 10’s of millions of gallons of warm water being released into the river per day which keeps the water from freezing. Prior to the location of this industry the Fraser would be frozen from Jasper to Hell’s gate, and the Nechako from Vanderhoof to Prince George.

Opening the South Channel by dredging would divert the water from the North side to the South side and it would have less of an opportunity to jam.

Thats my take on it, in any event.

Have a nice day.

Wow,

Opinion 250 has officially become the barbers show where all the old men sit around and solve the worlds problems with about 10% facts and 90% hyperbole.

I guess that should be “the barbers shop”

I dont know whats worse, my typing or my ability to see the letters on the keyboard. Sucks to be old.

the barbers show
Dang, I was hoping that was another in a long series of reality t.v. programs. Considering some of the trash available for viewing on television, a show about old men discussing world issues, on the set of a barber shop might be worth watching;)
metalman.

I live in the Crescent’s and am within 5 km of Telus. I still do not have Optic available to my home.

I drive to Salmon Valley and my Cell Service provider (Shaw) cannot provide me with cell service. (20 miles away) How pathetic is that?

We can put a man on the moon and we can see a terrorist fog a mirror in a cave in Afghanistan, yet we do not have cell service.

Shame on all the providers who are making us say; “Can you hear me now?”