It seems to me that there is a lot of accidents involving big trucks lately. A sign of the times?

Highway 118 is in disrepair at the best of times. I grew up in Granisle and since the mine closed for good in 1993 the community its had all but been forgotten about. I drove up there in 2011 to bring my kids to see the house I grew up in and to go Geocaching and I noted the sorry state of the highway. Maybe its been fixed since then, but it was pretty sad 18 months ago.

And I wonder how much attention it gets from LDM or whoever is in charge of winter highway maintenance. It’s never been all that well maintained in the winter.

light vehicle operators not giving trucks room and respect

light vehicle drivers operators driving beyond their ability and the conditions

light vehicles with winter rated all-season tyres rather than real winter tread
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heavy vehicle operators over driving the conditions

heavy vehicle operators working more than 12 hour days for more than 6 day stretches. Often all winter if it is logging. (double or triple log books)

heavy vehicles not maintained till end of season

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highway maintenance (snow clearing) is under funded, and under estimated

Plus the snow budget is annualized January to December when the reality is that it snows from November to march

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There is no single entity to blame. It is a cumulative fault thing. Sometimes it was the little guy, sometimes it was the big guy, sometimes it was both, sometime neither. Wait for the crash investigation, then we shall know the reason on this one.

cheese

Loki, obviously you know pretty much nothing about “heavy” vehicles. Your 1st thought is possible. 2nd one is highly enforced by DOT and RCMP and the 3rd is also highly enforced by DOT and RCMP.

Its no longer a free for all in the logging industry when it comes to trucks, there are many ways of checking log books and vehicle safety.

Oh, and by the way, the max hours are 15 on duty for a logging truck, and no mill scales are open on weekends so they only work 5 day weeks.

I`m going to go ahead and say driver at fault just need to determine which. in this case of small car large truck I`d say both.

cheese … funny you should say that

The Swiss Cheese model of accident causation is a model used in the risk analysis and risk management of human systems. Here is an image to reflect that analogy.

http://www.interferencetechnology.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Hughes_fig1.jpg

cheese … funny you should say that

The Swiss Cheese model of accident causation is a model used in the risk analysis and risk management of human systems. Here is an image to reflect that analogy.

http://www.interferencetechnology.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Hughes_fig1.jpg

I could post it a third time, in case someone wants to take one home …. ;-)

AAV … travelling between here and Vancouver a lot recently, I see lots of truck traffic on weekends, including logging trucks both days going both ways.

Wish they would just trade inventory and give the roads a rest.

Gus, of course there is highway truck traffic on weekends, thats obvious, freight moves at all times.

Loaded logging trucks hauling on weekends? I call BS. Maybe you saw them weekdays, or maybe you saw empties moving around, but there are no sawmills from Williams Lake to Chetwynd with scales open on weekends to accept logs. Other regions I have no idea.

I might be wrong. It is possoble for loaded logging trucks to be parked at mill weigh scales . At least I think I have it in the past. Come to think of it, I have parked loaded logging trucks at weigh scales. It’s been 20 years since I have .

Its calld pre-loading and it has been going on for years. A lot of trucks will go out on a sunday or saturday and get preloaded if there is a loader availble to load them. You don’t need open scales to drive a loaded logging truck around on a weekend.