Friday Free For All – May 3, 2013
Friday, May 3, 2013 @ 12:00 AM
Another week is wrapping up and it looks like the weather is finally going to shape up and feel like spring.
Today is all about you telling us how you feel about issues that have surfaced over the past week. It is time for the FRIDAY FREE FOR ALL.
You pick the topic, but, as always, obey our three simple rules:
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From Ipsos Reid
“Notes: By a two-to-one margin, British Columbians think a Stanley Cup parade in Vancouver (53%) is more likely than the BC Liberals winning a fourth consecutive majority government.”
From 24 Hrs Vancouver,
“A long-standing Supreme Court lawsuit naming B.C. Premier Christy Clark as a defendant was settled out of court just weeks prior to the upcoming provincial election, 24 hours has learned.
A statement of claim for an accident that took place in 2008 alleged the plaintiff in the case was struck from behind by a vehicle driven by Clark, then a CKNW radio talk-show host.”
It seems to me that this elections is lacking strategic direction. We donât talk about what should be our capital expense priorities during the election, and then after the election our politicians could then set these priorities for us based mostly on the whims of their political supporters. It seems too much of the election so far is party platitudes from the party play book with no real outlook or ideas that are relevant locally.
What I think we need is to have open debates about where we think the province should be with capital spending priorities⦠brainstorming, discussing, and assessing priorities.
All parties talk about how they will allocate the royalties and taxes generated in the Northern resource industries, but few look to actually invest where it actually counts. Looking at past capital spending decisions in PG we have a municipally funded 4km dead end Willow North Road with full services including water and sewer and full light standards the full length. This road comes to a dead end roughly across the tracks from Railway Road (old South Scales traffic lights). The current access makes it about a 12km round about, but with a Railway Road connector could be 2 minutes from the Fraser Bridge.
Willow North with 2 minutes access from the Fraser Bridge could potentially become the equivalent of the Vancouver Seawall, or the closest thing to it in PG. It has 4km of prime riverfront access fully serviced with no development the full length, and receives the longest sunset in town. The province could really contribute to future generations by using its crown access to the river frontage to secure now right away a river front trail and public green space connecting the Fraser Bridge head, and the connector to the LC Gunn trailhead, connect this down south along the Fraser river bank down to the Danson Industrial site parallel to the Willow North Road. If the Willow North Road was developed as high density urban development along the river it could be PGâs riverfront icon and serve as a backup to Pacific Avenue for accessing the Danson Industrial Site.
Condoâs along the river side of Willow North could be developed for Northern BCâs resource workers that work at the industrial sites southeast of town as well as throughout the North.
Then we have the provinces busiest industrial rail crossing at Pacific, Boundary Road, Sintich Road, and Industrial Way. The road surface is completely cratered and the road underbed needs a complete rebuild. It can be a dangerous busy crossing with single vehicle access (do to massive road failure) for multiple direction traffic, trains often stopped blocking the crossing, and it is the only access point from the city to the Danson Industrial Site, Pacific Bio-energy, Carrier Lumber, and many other companies that make the Northern economy work. Surely this intersection of any in the city, or province for that matter, is in need of a complete rebuild⦠but should this rebuild be done right the first time, or done twice at twice the cost?
We all know that long range plans for PG include a semi-ring road that would include the current large investment into the Boundary Road project for an airport industrial park. This project is planned to eventually tie in with Boundary Road in the Danson Industrial Site and continue over the Fraser River to the Blackwater area. Upon completion it would take commercial traffic off of Peden Hill and out of the bowl area of the city, as well as provide short access from Lower College Heights to the southeastern industrial sites.
Knowing what we know about future city plans for a semi-ring road option linking the industrial sites and bi-passing the bowl area for more through traffic⦠we just have to know that the Pacific-Sintich-Boundary-Industrial Way rail crossing simply will not be adequate in its current form and will not last much longer as is. We know this crossing is essential for a large portion of our economic base, far more important than say the Bednesti overhead crossing ever could be.
Essentially the crossing should be an overpass over the rail tracks for the Boundary extension and Pacific Avenue accessing the Danson Industrial Site, and I put forward the suggestion that this should be done as part of the upgrade to the road when the fix is made to the road. Merge Boundary from the Airport with Pacific Street and overpass both the Sintich-Industrial Way road and the rail tracks lining up the road for an eventual Fraser River crossing at a later date. (Google Earth is a good resource at this point)
For a major fix to the Danson Industrial rail crossing involving an overpass one would likely have to close the intersection to traffic and that is where the white elephant in the Willow North Road could make for a very easy alternate access road to the Danson Industrial Site and in doing so open PG up to a whole new dynamic often talked about for River Road along the Nechako River, but not possible due to existing developments in the area.
So my suggestion to the politicians is to seriously look at the Danson Industrial rail crossing and the need for this to be PGâs next large infrastructure project.
Connecting the new Boundary Road Airport Industrial area to the Danson as an eventual semi-ring road. Itâs the logical next step, but is needed now more than any other road needs⦠and this is something that should be fully funded by the provincial and federal governments as part of the highway infrastructure of Northern BC.
IMHO we could have a true 2015 Games legacy were we have key transportation blocks in place for our future status as a gateway to the Pacific, and a great addition to a future world class river trails system. If it takes the games, or gateway slogans then so be it, but I think this is a big upgrade PGâs needs simply for the efficiency of our economy and to enable future growth.
Time Will Tell
The interesting part about Neil MacDonalds article on the unsustainable bankers is where he talks about quantitative easing being something that bankers could use to fiance deficit budgets or even the whole British budget for a year.. as a short term measure… but that people would then be outraged at paying taxes for services and expect quantitative easing monetary inflation to be used to fund government and households, rather than bankers.
In other words he argues once people find out how banks print money for nothing they would be outraged at how banks allocate this new money to their insiders. We pay $86 million a day in interest at the federal government level, and yet the bankers print money for nothing to bail out the corprocracy in Canada at over $100 billion a year.
People should be outraged if they knew why their pensions were hurting and assets under threat. IMO great reporting by Neil Macdonald.
2013 “Worst Roads” survey, have your say
http://www.bcaa.com/worstroads
Must be nice to be an Irving ship designer these days! Gets lobbed a $250 million contract to just draw up some papers that was already done by others. Industry experts say that is 10X too much and that Harper could have built 2 ships for that money alone. Maybe MacKay needed a fishing deck added!
Does everyone remember the era of Photo-Radrar vans that were implemented under the last NDP government? I feel that we will see them again within a year of the NDP getting into power.
The idea of the vans is good and noble – reduce speeding, making the streets safer, etc., but I have always felt that this is not the real reason they were brought into service.
They were used as another way to tax the common people to help generate revenue to offset the NDP tax and spend policies. The NDP transformed the police forces of BC to just another revenue generating entity.
I feel that the NDP directive was to do policing that made the Province money. It costs money to fight the gangs and organized crime in BC, and the old NDP was not willing to spend it, not when they could have many, many police officers sitting in vans and generating money instead of costing them money.
Say what you want about the Liberals, but they have attacked organized crime through the anti-gang units and IHIT, and I think they are slowing making gains against the bad guys.
I fear that under another NDP reign, we will see the emphasis shift back again to taxing the common man at the expense of continuing to fight organized crime. If that happens, the bad guys will surely win the battle.
No data to back this up – just my opinion. And I am not connected in any way with law enforcement.
The financial manipulation by the banking syndicate is nothing new. Sadly, everyday people are waking up in with the realization that they are bound and shackled. Modern day slaves. It takes a lot of self and financial dicipline to free yourself in a system the does not promote early awareness or education in this matter. However, the idividual is not the helpless victim here. We all volunteer to pay the fee’s and intrest. Fortunelty, in the digital world this is one area where the armchair protester can actually make a difference.
thanks Jerry for coming to PG, for 2 hours i laughed and had a great time.
I have to agree with you rumrunner! Seinfeld was excellent!
Stay hydrated!
FINALLY…. some nice warm weather.. Too bad it’s not a long weekend. Enjoy everyone :)
I know this is supposed to be Friday free for all comments, but could some of you take your petty bickering and name calling somewhere else?
metalman.
Who is watching playoff hockey? If it’s 24 degrees this weekend, I’m not.
Gotta agree with a couple of the above posters, thanks Jerry Seinfeld for coming to PG! He was awesome!
Eagleone~~I read your post with great interest. At what point do you think PG is going to expand again? From what I’ve read our population has been stagnant for over 20 years…so how do you expect all this visionary expansion your talking about to be financially viable??
Eagle, the politicians don’t talk about their “capital expense priorities” much in this election because, like the rest of the current economy, not much they could currently invest in is ever going to pay.
THAT is one of the main reasons ‘quantitative easing’ hasn’t been the big cure-all it was thought it would be in the USA.
A bank CAN’T lend, regardless of the interest rate, to businesses whose profits as a percentage of their sales are continually declining. They run a greater risk of not being able to be fully repaid, and they themselves not being able to maintain the liquidity levels they need to operate.
And each new business loan for an increase in output through the efficiency of labour displacement ~ where the machine does the job formerly done by the man ~ makes this situation worse.
Machines don’t receive an income, and they don’t ‘liquidate’ financial costs when money is spent for what they ‘consume’. The cost of their ‘consumption’ only TRANSFERS that cost. Only human beings can ‘liquidate’ costs at the point of final consumption, and then only if they have the INCOMES to do so.
You can only make so many consolidations, where one business merges with or buys out its competitors, before those businesses get to the point where even their dominance of a particular market won’t bring in adequate profits to amortise their loans. We’re there, or virtually there, in many areas now. Even if we made one final consolidation, and had the government take over everything, the system still would not work set up as it is.
It is a macro-economic problem, and politicians on both sides of the border continue to try to deal with it through micro-economic solutions that can’t ever work. The emphasis on ‘job creation’ being one of them.
When a worker is displaced from one job through automation, finding him a new job creates ANOTHER set of ‘costs’, while the ‘costs’ of the machine that replaced him still flow through into prices WITHOUT any distributed income to anyone to meet them.
The simple FACT is the rate of flow of total costs into prices continually exceeds the rate of flow of total earned INCOMES into the hands of consumers that are sufficient to fully liquidate those prices as what we’ve produced comes onto the markets for our consumption.
What is needed is a ‘debt-free’ augmentation of earned incomes, based on the actual realities of our ability to ‘produce’ relative to our needs and desires to ‘consume’.
At present we are being forced to pay, in prices, for all Capital depreciation. Which is only right and proper under the rules and conventions of accounting. But as individuals in society we are never fully CREDITED with Capital APPRECIATION, which is normally always greater. (Or our very real material progress as a society wouldn’t exist. And it DOES exist, even if we currently can’t ‘financially’ afford it.)
We already have a capacity to produce far in excess of our ability to fully consume all the product it is capable of providing. We don’t even run it at full capacity, only, on average, utilising about 75% of it normally. Yet out of that 75%, we’re being asked to pay for both the product itself and 100% of the plant that made it. It is financially impossible under the present set-up ~ unless, as you’ve told Lonesome, we have a war. In which none of the staunch defenders of the financial status quo expect to have to fight themselves.
Hi Jim. I would think the overpass would not cost much more than $10 million. The hillside above could easily be used as fill for most of it. Redoing the road which needs to be done anyways would likely cost $2 million. So the cost for planning for the future would be what ever the difference is. The rest of Boundary is already being done at great cost to PG tax payers. I think an overpass rail crossing should be a federal and provincial expenditure.
The idea for a Rustads training school would likely cost far more and the government spends many multiples of this amount every year on road projects elsewhere in the province.
I don’t think PG would need any growth to make this project viable. It already serves an industrial base that requires the upgrades already. Its 30-years too late..
A Fraser crossing at a later date should be contingent on future growth that would justify it. That would depend largely IMO on the success of an Airport Industrial Park (iffy), and the ability to attract fly in fly out resource workers to locate in PG (doable as a livable city).
IMO
Does anybody know the details on the crash yesterday am at 16 & 97 with the white GMC and the little car? Drove by shortly after (emergency vehicles still arriving)and it looked nasty…
Stay safe this weekend folks!
Socred I think we can agree that if quantitative easing is used, it should be used to lift up the middle class and not enslave it.
I think when people realize this it will result in huge shifts politically.
Seinfeld was awesome!!!! Thanks Jerry for stopping in PG. I think people didn’t realize how lucky we were to get this show. Only 5 stops in Canada and PG was one of them……WOW.
What got me was there were about 100-200 empty seats……what exactly were people in PG doing that was more interesting than this? I bet there will be some people saying that they wish they would have gone…..oops too late. Oh well, the rest of us were entertained. I’m still laughing at some of the jokes!!!
Child poverty
Purely Political term to garner votes
or
Does it actually exist?
Children do not earn income, nor do they have living expenses not covered by an adult income earner.
There are children of financially challenged families.
Go
Polls show that the difference between Liberals and NDP is down to single digits – 4%.
Three polls released yesterday
Forum research had NDP ahead by four
Insights West had NDP ahead by eight
Angus Reid had NDP ahead by seven.
Ipsos Reid comes out tomorrow
I don’t get it….how can our province afford to give $11million dollar grants for a bollywood party…and yet the BC Childrens Hospital has to advertise for donations to keep operating??? What kind of mixed up priorities does our current government have??
I’m missing the “families first” connection.
Same thing with the Owelympics, BC Place, Sea to sky Hwy, BC Hydro having to buy over inflated power from the IPP’s.
Eagleone, I like how at the crossing in the BCR they had to put barricades along side the railway because cars found it smoother to drive on the tracks then on the actual roadway ……
After a family member was recently hospitalized, it has come to my attention how disgustingly understaffed our hospital is.
I heard a family member tell a nurse her loved one needed to use the washroom. The nurse’s response was, I know, she has to go for an hour and a half, I am just very busy right now. I will get to her when I can. When I asked for slippers I was told it was just one more thing for her to do and to wait until my family member was moved.
Obviously there are fabulous nurses doing what they can with what they have, and this may not have been one of them…but bottom line is they are understaffed, overworked and underpaid.
Posted by: daisybee on May 3 2013 10:20 AM
After a family member was recently hospitalized, it has come to my attention how disgustingly understaffed our hospital is.
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As with all the public sector; the biggest issue is the allocation of funds. We spend an inordinate about of our health care dollars on administration; information technology (do we really need to replace PC’s every couple of years?), managers, etc. and not enough on addressing the primary issues.
After a bit of a shaky start the games were the most successful ever in terms of getting a whole city involved. Even people who could not attend events got into the spirit with the Robson street nightly parties. Although the Vancouver area got most of the big money venues there are legacy programs throughout the province.
The Vancouver Olympics are now the standard of how to run a successful games, summer and winter. There were people from Vancouver in London consulting on the summer games and they are still in Russia to help them with the upcoming winter games.
The sea to sky was due to be upgraded games or no games.
eagelone wrote: “It seems too much of the election so far is party platitudes from the party play book with no real outlook or ideas that are relevant locally.”
Nothing has changed, and nothing will, unless we have governance reform. But there is not a single parrty that speaks of that. The closest we got to that in my lifetime is the proposed change to the first past the goalpost.
No one speaks about that anymore. It was so close, yet is now so far. Obviously ALL parties are in it for the old boys/girls club of politicians versus electorate.
In my mind, that is the first thing that needs to happen. I suspect if it were ever to happen, that the rest will eventually follow.
So now the liberal fear mongers are fortune tellers too.
PG residents do know what they will get if they don’t vote someone out.
“As with all the public sector; the biggest issue is the allocation of funds. We spend an inordinate about of our health care dollars on administration; information technology (do we really need to replace PC’s every couple of years?), managers, etc. and not enough on addressing the primary issues”
Like offshore accounts and tax evasion?
Eagleone wrote:”receives the longest sunset in town”
I think Gunn Park escarpment, for example, would be longer.
I recollect Richard Nixon. After May 14 if the NDP wins we are going to be in for a lot of surprises. Why wait til after the election and start calling him “Tricky Dix”. How else is he going to “fix” things without raising taxes. After May 14 expect to hear the name Moe, and not the bartender almost every day.
I do not believe the poll that sddenly shows the liberals in the single digits? Sounds like another spin from the MSM. As mentioned by other posters already today the OWE limpikz, BC place etc. We have not forgotten the HST either. And the LIE before the last election. Or the BC Rail corruption sale. Or countless other items that the taxpayers have had to endure for the last 12 years. Just because gordon is supposedly working in london now the orders are still coming from there it seems. The party is still the same with all the lies and same people and the blatant waste of our tax money. There is no way this latest attempt by the party and MSM can be believed by the majority of voters. It simply does not add up. IMO.
Adrian Dix married? If he is shouldn’t he be bringing the spouse and kids out for photo ops during his campaign and showing he is just like Joe Sixpack and family? Justin Trudeau and Barry Obama use their families. I’m sure he could garner more votes in that respect. If he needs them.
Matty never left. Your attacks on others WILL be reported to Elaine. You better tone it down a little bit sparrow.
BTW Adrian is married but has no kids.
Hey Eagle 1, maybe you should think about getting on Facebook, or possibly a blog. Your posts are usually lengthy and dull, boring and full of drivel. (No offence of course) that sort of thing is better in an environment where people have to seek it out.
Harbinger:
According to wikipedia Dix
“currently lives in Vancouver with his wife Renée Saklikar, a poet and writer”
They say that everyone can be replaced but I am not so sure about that as I sit here ad ponder BC politics. I am very saddened that we are loosing one of the most dedicated advocate for British Columbia and our community. Pat Bell in my opinion cannot be replaced but I do know that he has made a path to follow. I know that he will still be around but I will miss that smile, warm and genuine passion that that man has shown for this province and his riding. He has worked his tush off and I appreciate all that he has done. I believe in the Liberals but it was more exciting with Pat. He will always be the marvelous one. NDP, Green or Liberal I know that he majority will agree.
Eagleone, thank you so much for mentioning the intersection in the Danson Industrial Site. My post here this morning is about the way people drive when there are lots of potholes in the roads. I just drove that route to the Danson Industrial Site and I can’t believe how many drivers think that they can enter my lane, when I am oncoming traffic, just because they have a pothole in their lane.
When I am driving and their is an obstruction or hole in my lane and there is oncoming traffic, I don’t swerve into the oncoming lane expecting them to get out of my way. What gives?
Oh yeah, I forgot to write that Eagleone’s post also mentioned how busy the route into the Danson Industrial Site is. I noticed this morning only 1 political election sign along the route. Do the politician-wannabes in PG not know about the Danson Industrial Site and how many people travel that route everyday.
Put the election signs in the pot holes to lessen the danger. Maybe Chief Green’s old election signs should be put in a tree shredder and used to fill some potholes.
All those using their cellphones while driving must be members of the BCCLA hey BCRacer?
Jerry Seinfeld is not funny, IMO.
“Renée Saklikar” – srsly?????? Too funny.
Good thing you come on here and complain about people bullying people all the time, eh Dragon ;)
Dix-Saklikar!
Adrian Dix is a very nice guy. Not disingenuous like Christy cluck, cluck.
Imagine getting that wedding announcement…
You are cordially invited to the upcoming Dix/Saklikar nuptials
Cheech & Chong more your cup of tea ProCannabis?
Jerry Seinfeld was hilarious!! I laughed so hard my stomach hurt… I loved it ! I was disappointed it didn’t sell out as it was a great show.
What happened to pulling over or stopping for an ambulance. Yesterday at 5th & Bypass vehicles going North just kept on going through – did they not notice they were the only one (although a few from the north also went through but most finally stopped). The ambulance with siren and lights going had to sit at the intersection for the whole light to cycle through.
Christy Clark runs red lights ; has to settle out of court for rear ending another vehicle. Sure know how to pickem! Good thing she is not a christian or she would have to explain all her lies.
Denaljo: “Christy Clark runs red lights “
… and Adrian Dix doesn’t pay for the Skytrain. Get over it.
Because Spring1 he’s not funny. That’s why it wasn’t sold out. I wouldn’t of paid a penny to see him. Actually lonesome sparrow I would prefer Bill Maher myself.
“I would prefer Bill Maher myself.”
Speaking of not funny.
Well weaksauce I guess if you are religious you wouldn’t find him funny at all would you.
Interceptor, please explain?
Sunday morning i had to take my daughter to emergency for x-rays to determine her ankle was indeed not broken, to myself i am thinking oh great she will have to sit there for hours and hours in pain before we even get into see a doctor and then another few hours to get x-rays, much to my surprise we were all done within an hour!!! nothing broken just bad sprain i was never so impressed with our hospital as i was that morning, way to go!! there was a steady stream of people coming in and every one was dealt with at a speedy pace, i hope everyone who was in there that morning had the same experience we did.
Cannibis – Neither religious nor anti-pot but his whiny, rich guy socialist schtick got tired after the first couple of hundred times he did it.
StellaBella, I too had recent emergency department experience which was mostly positive. Not as quick as yours but still under 3 hours. Our only complaint was the woman who takes your medical information (2nd counter) was a miserable cow. She made us feel like we weren’t worth her time and we were the only ones in the waiting room.
Denaljo: “Christy Clark runs red lights “
Johnnybelt: “… and Adrian Dix doesn’t pay for the Skytrain. Get over it.”
Dare I say it? Apparently Moe had to relinquish his cabinet post as minister responsible for ICBC when it was discovered that he had piled up seven speeding ticket infractions…
Finally, Dr.Sutter announced the woman’s centre is not feasible to be 100% funded by the government so they will also need private funding.. The story keeps changing, last I heard it was for 30-60 year old women at $6500.00 each. No business plan?
I guess Prince George did not get the drift of my post.
Just pointing out how reckless she is a person, a politician and a desperate liar that will say and do anything to hang onto power. The last thing the Fiberals want to see is someone else checking through the “books” to see how badly they have really run up the debt and paid off their corporate friends.
Not paying for Skytrain is Dixie’s least of worries.
Did the sale of BCRail hurt me? No!
Did the Hst now called GST make much difference to me? No!
Did the Olympics hurt me? No!
Whistler is gorgeous, go there sometime. The Sea to Sky highway is great to drive on!
Why is Hydro getting sued in the US courts? Blame the NDP.
In the end if the NDP gets in will it make much of a difference to me? No!
But when it come to voting I’m going to ask myself whom do I trust the most the devil I know or the one I don’t care to know.
Maybe I would feel better voting for Adrian Saklikar……nope!
Moe had renovations done on his house. By “non union” labourers. I don’t see a problem. Do you? Everybody wants to save a buck. Just like us.
Commonwealth Campus taking NDIT to court over the foreclosure. Can you frikken believe that?
Ever see union labourers that do house reno’s Harb?
Dix gets caught fradulently back dating a very important NDP litigation memo.
Gets forced out of the NDP party – takes 70K serverence and comes back to be leader of the NDP…and we have problems with traffic violations…hmmmm
I find it strange that 250news.com deleted two posts I made on the Friday Free For All earlier today that referenced stories which ran in two mainstream media organizations (National Post and the CBC). Even stranger is that they were deleted after being allowed to remain on the site for approximately 10 hours.
So how many people here have not treated a red light as a four way stop in the wee hours of the morning taking your kids to hockey. Got to love those lights on Queensway.
Here is some information about that loony carbon tax
12 March: Globe & Mail, Canada: Margaret Wente: Carbon offsets: B.C.âs looniest green scheme yet? Add to â¦
Every public institution is now required to pay $25 a tonne for the carbon dioxide it emits. Thatâs money thatâs no longer available for textbooks, teachers and nursing careâ¦
Most of this money winds up in the pockets of large private companies, which are paid for not emitting greenhouse gasses they almost certainly wouldnât have emitted anyway, according to investigations by The Vancouver Sun. Corporate recipients have included Encana, Interfor, Kruger and other companies that already had carbon-reduction projects under way or completed. Millions more have gone to the Nature Conservancy of Canada and aboriginal groups connected to the Great Bear Rainforest; they were paid for not cutting down trees they wouldnât have been allowed to cut down anyway. The prices are all negotiated by Pacific Carbon Trust, a Crown agency that specializes in voodoo carbon accountingâ¦
âItâs outrageous whatâs going on in the name of carbon offsets,â says Frank Lento, chair of the tiny, cash-strapped Southeast Kootenay school district. Last year, his district was dunned $80,000. âThat money is going from our classrooms to corporate boardrooms,â he told meâ¦
Do any of these shenanigans actually reduce emissions? Probably not. As Cornelis van Kooten, an economics professor at the University of Victoria, told me, âThe problem is that you cannot keep track of what exactly is being taken out of the atmosphere or going into the atmosphere.â Nonetheless, these schemes are popular with environmentalists and business. Why? âMoney. Thereâs tonnes of money in this.â
Carbon-offset schemes have created a lucrative niche for consultants, bureaucrats, accountants and entrepreneurs who, for tidy fees, will help you market credits, set the price, determine how much carbon dioxide youâre subtracting from the planet, and write reports certifying that your program is a brilliant success, even if itâs built on the backs of schoolchildren and sick people.
B.C.âs carbon-neutral green dream is a multimillion-dollar boondoggle. But that doesnât mean it will be shut down any time soonâ¦
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/commentary/carbon-offsets-bcs-looniest-green-scheme-yet/article9623584/
Some more on that money sucking carbon tax
http://opinion.financialpost.com/2013/04/04/carbon-taxes-pain-for-no-benefit/
I see that the comments concerning the Hucklebery Mine and the Wetensweaten folks have been obliterated. Methinks some people got too carried away with some of their comments. Maybe a few generations from now those kind of comments will few and far between. We’re Canadians first. Let’s be nice. After all, it is our nature.
In addition to running red lights,and rear ending some unfortunate, it turns out Christy Clark was also disqualified as student union leader at SFU for election violations.
She can’t follow simple rules, has poor judgement,and will cheat when necessary. A perfect Lieberal leader. It should be very interesting when she gets on the stand at the BC Rail inquiry.
How come the interior of the province does not have helicopter air ambulances as they have in metro Vancouver. Down there no matter where you are, never far from a hospital. Just about every accident on the news down there involves an air ambulance.
I guess those in the interior are second class citizens.
I think this should be a major election issue.
“…can’t follow simple rules, has poor judgement,and will cheat when necessary.”
Are you talking about Dix?
Some interesting information, I will let it speak for itself.
“Tracey called the police account of events “confused” and noted a “clear absence of an arrest warrant.” And she alleged police refused to allow her brother’s psychiatrist, mother and a neighbour to talk to him.
Tracey also said their mother, Lorraine Matters, was “seriously assaulted” by an RCMP emergency response team member when she appeared at the scene.
According to a statement also provided to the media, police gave Lorraine , who is in her 60s, permission to meet with her son but when she appeared at the driveway where Greg was located, an ERT member roughed her up.
The member pointed what appeared to be a machine gun at her, forced her hands up “causing her pain and bruising,” then grabbed her jacket and ripped her shirt.
“She fell to the ground and was dragged by the officer along the road,” Tracey said in the statement. “As she tried to get up, the officer kneed her in the chest and threatened to knee her again if she tried to move.”
Lorraine was handcuffed and taken to the RCMP detachment, strip searched and told she was being charged with assault but was not allowed to make any phone calls, according to Tracey.
“She was still in custody when she was informed that Greg had been shot dead,” Tracey said. “The assault charges were never pursued.”
As for Dr. Greg Passey, the psychiatrist who had been treating Greg for 18 months, Tracey said RCMP contacted him shortly before Greg was shot. Passey offered to fly up to Prince George from Vancouver to speak to Greg and “walk him out” but the phone call ended abruptly and Passey assumed he was “no longer required.”
Passey also noted that since then, there have been two similar incidents that were “resolved without incident because the RCMP allowed clinicians to speak with the veterans.”
just when I think that the statements of the posters to this site couldn’t get any sleazier, there are some who seem determined to lower the bar once again. I would be embarassed to be making fun of any persons name or ethnic origin. Proud Canadians EH, pity. Some people should just take a good long look in the mirror if they want someone to complain about. Have a great weekend.
LUMBER1, get a piece of paper and a pen. Draw a line down the middle of the paper from top to bottom. At the top of the left column print NDP. At the top of the right column print Liberal.
Now start writing underneath the NDP heading everything you can about everything the NDP have done, such as the memo and the transit pass fiasco. Maybe add the fast ferries while you’re there.
Now go to the Liberal side of the page and do the same thing.
Feel free to write on the other side of the sheet of paper when you run out of room from the giant list you will build about the Liberal legacy in BC.
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I ran out of paper on the left column quite a few years ago (when all the screw ups of the NDP were still fresh in everyone’s memory) listing all the different *NDP gates* which were coming one after the other. Are the Liberals perfect? Of course not. Weren’t there a number of reasons why the NDP was ousted by a landslide and reduced to two (!) seats in the Legislature? Yes, biggest landslide ever, so how about that?
So getting seven speeding tickets is not reckless?
Take off your rose coloured glasses.
Can someone help me out here. I have a venture capital investment that was going nowhere and got my money out of it but cannot get in contact with anyone to cancel it. No answer to emails or phone messages. The trust company that is administrating the plane wants their fee and is threatening us with money chasers if we don’t pay up. We have told them the situation and they say that has nothing to do with them, pay up.
What is my next step, what authorities can I get in touch with?
Fool me once, shame on you (BC Rail)
Fool me twice, shame on me (HST)
Fool me three times- seriously dude, get some self respect! What, were you beaten as a child? Don’t vote Lieberal again!
Herbster I ran the same poem just before the NDP lost. The words were alittle different but the results were the same!
Don’t vote NDP again!
No Dix People
bornandbread: I too was at the emergency department and I had the MOST AWFUL person on the first desk!!!!! I don’t understand how they can be SOOOO nasty to sick people. People are frightened when they have to to there and there is not much compassion at all…don’t know how they get to be nurses! My niece is a nurse and is so kind to sick people….thankfully there are still some. I looked to see if I could see a name tag on her but couldn’t see one….I was going to turn her in. People are starting to turn these rude people in more now I found out. Thank goodness for that.
To daisybee: I also working for years at a job with not good pay and was very overworked, but, I never snapped at the customers around the place and they were not even sick people. This world is really not a nice place anymore….selfishness had taken over….sooooo sad!!
To sum up what all the Fiberal trolls and dinosaurs on this site have to say is” Just live in the past and remember this or that about the NDP” Why? because they have nothing to brag up the Liarberals about. They have done nothing in the past decade but balloon the debt to record highs and deliver scandal after scandal.Cannot wait for the books to be opened on the BCR scandal and big payoff. That is if the evidence is not shredded by now.
NoWay
I can only assume you are at the stage of life where your short term memory has started to go. If you keep reliving the fast ferry fiasco, and ignore the $33 billion of additional debt the Lieberals have added in the last 12 years, you are doing yourself and your fellow British Columbians a great disservice.
If you can ignore the monstrous lies told to all of us about BC Rail and its coverup, the HST, and doubling our debt in the last 12 years, then you are setting yourself up for some real evil coming down the pike.
Seamutt
…..you invested with Dan McLaren ?
In 2008 the BC provincial debt was the same or slightly lower than it was in 2001 when the Liberals took over. In 2009 the big crash happened in the US housing market and dragged the world into a recession. The Libs went to parliament and asked for deficit budgets for the next two years as the plan was to start capital projects to keep the economy moving so BC would not get dragged into the recession. We came out rather unscathed, now they have to produce a balanced budget or go back to the house which they did not.
The New Debt Party has decided its first course of action is to get rid of the balanced budget law so they don’t have to go to the floor of the legislature and ask for permission to run a deficit budget.
As I recall the last 2 years of the NDP doubling the provincial debt they had a surplus budget from gas revenues and yet the provincial debt still went up in those 2 years…
The New Debt Party mothballed the Fast Cats NOT the Liberals. The NDP tried to sell the cats at a discounted rate of 120 million but had no takers. The Liberals hung on to them another 2 years paying for the upkeep and dock space before finally selling them in a worldwide auction that had a few bidders including someone from Dubai but NOONE wanted them. People say they were sold below scrap value but noone even put an offer on the table to buy them for scrap, not even the builder who eventually bought them at auction. Edumacate yourself people.
And on a civic political note, I would like to say that the City of Prince George showed a complete lack of class, once again, by not lowering their flags to half mast on April 28, the day of mourning for workers killed or injured on the job. As an employee, it would seem that the powers the be could not be bothered to be reminded that last year, over 100 workers never made it home after work. I work hard at my job and am proud of the work I do, but things like this make me think of what do the upper admin people consider important? For shame.
The city of Vernon lowered their flags to half mast on April 28, the day of mourning for workers killed or injured on the job.
Nice job Vernon.
slinky, I sure agree with you. I am so thankful that we didn’t have an NDP government during the past 5 years. The global economic meltdown had devastating effects on many countries and economies around the world. British Columbia and all of Canada for that matter came through this period of time in relatively good shape financially, in fact we were the envy of the globe. I can only imagine the shape we would be in if we had the NDP in power, both federally and more importantly here in BC.
In a healthy economy, we all benefit. We need a healthy and vibrant economy, one that will create jobs for all citizens, not just government and union workers. We need a healthy and growing economy to provide the revenue that is necessary to fund our healthcare system, our education system and other social services. We won’t have that if the NDP drive our economy into the toilet. How are we supposed to provide wage and benefit increases to teachers, healthcare workers, government employees and the like, if the private sector is all sitting at home, either unemployed or underemployed?
Remember, with a free enterprise government in power, we ALL benefit! With the NDP, only big labour will benefit.
So, do we all benefit or do we create a situation where only big labour benefits??
The Liberals need to clean up their act, but I’ll choose a right wing government any day over a left wing government. For crying out loud, Adrian Dix as our Premier?? Give your heads a shake!!
Slinky, a very slick spin job. Except that
1) The Lieberals kept the debt down for the first 9 years by
-Selling BC Rail
-Turning BC into a have-not province for four years to get federal transfer payments
-Instituting HST
-Loading BC Hydro up with massive debt
2) You are full of sh*te. The NDP did not double the debt in their last 2 years of office. In fact, they ran a surplus. So how did double the debt?
3) The Lieberals doubled the BC debt from $33 billion to $66 billion in 12 years.
4) Fast Ferry Fiasco. Yada Yada Yada. Ancient history. You can only dine out on that one so many times. Time is up. You lose.
Herbster and Denaljo and their inane posts are reasons enough to vote Liberal. See you at the voting booth!
Hart Guy
BC debt is now $66 billion. The economy is in the toilet. The private sector now wants to bring in chinese miners at lower than market wages to dig coal in Tumblr Ridge. Christy Clark went to Calgary to raise money for the Lieberals. She gets in Enbridge is a done deal.
How are the Lieberals going to clean up their act if you don’t clean house? Your willingness to elect a government you consider crooked is a recipe for disaster.
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