Nice copy and paste job. Maggie Knight is not a member of this community. The community of Prince George is not against pipelines. These ‘marchers’ wouldn’t have a clue what a hard days work is, nor do they appreciate the importance of resource extracton in this country or the modern technology involved in pipeline construction. Naive people on the government trough trying to destroy our economy.

Contractor:

Long after the LNG plants are built, the LNG pipelines are built, BC will thank the Native community of this province for stopping the foolhardy venture known as Northern Gateway.

I only trust people who actually live in this region,have lived in it for eons, and plan to keep on living in it, to make the long range decisions that have to be made.

People like you, ‘contractor’, are foolhardy carpetbaggers that only have short term profits in mind. Make a pile of money in a short period of time, then move to the Okanagan is your likely plan. Well screw off, we don’t need your type around here.

the march would be great if Shirley BOND was going to be in her office…but now she has been warned , there will be no hide nor hair of her…

Looks like an Enbridge troll is up early!
There are a lot of folks in PG against Enbridge contractor don’t fool yourself. What does being a member of the PG community have to do with it? With Enbridges track record anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that this Enbridge pipeline is an extremely bad idea for Prince George. In case you aren’t from around here contractor PG gets its drinking water from the Nechako river. The Stuart river flows into the Nechako contractor. The Northern Gateway pipeline crosses the Stuart contractor. A Kalamazoo style spill into the Stuart would finish PG contractor. The Kalamzoo spill was preventable! Enbridge knew the pipe was failing contrator and did nothing. No safety measures in the world can stop incompetance.

They are still trying to clean up the Kalamazoo!

“The community of Prince George is not against pipelines.” and you presume to speak for everyone in PG? Highly hypocritical considering the content of your own post.

I believe the oil will go but the question is “do we want it to go by rail or pipeline”? I say pipeline.

Yes duffer the oil will go by pipeline…..EAST!

Contractor:” Naive people on the government trough trying to destroy our economy.”

NOT having this bad idea of a pipeline (the bitumen can be piped to the East where it is needed) is not going to destroy our economy!

As JB would say: Somebody did something in your cornflakes!

OK contractor, I’m going to join the march and l have done many years of hard work! I’m not sure where you come up with the garbage you spew. Time for a reality check, just because you think something dose not make it true. You obviously have no idea of what you don’t know ;-)

If this is successful can we then start getting rid of the rest of our pipelines?

hypocritical is living in PG and thinking you are above resource extraction. I dont care what your profession is in this town, somewhere along the way you are either funded by resource extraction dollars or you are on the government teat, with very little exception.

A couple of observations:

Adrian Dix and the NDP’s popularity plummeted across the interior of the province during the last election campaign when he stated his opposition to the other pipeline “kiner Morgan”

Protests are usually organized to protest their opposition to the majority … otherwise the is no need to protest

It is sad to see the support for this idiotic project. My only thought on the supporters of Northern Gateway is that they must be emotionally damaged people to accept wholeheartedly such a crappy deal. They must be so insecure, that they cannot turn down any proposal that involves any money.

As Brian Mulroney once said ” There is no whore like an old whore” I guess a $10 trick sounds good to someone who once worked for a dollar a day.

What is even sadder, is that there are much better alternatives to this project. LNG is coming, is safer, and dwarfs Northern Gateway in size. Still some people cannot say no to any money, even bad money.

You know what I find fascinating is the amount of security cameras mounted on the outside of the local Enbridge office here in the Parkwood Plaza. I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a small building, which is little more than a PR centre, with so many security cameras mounted outside of it. I think there are at least half a dozen that are visible.

A logical outcome to to the paranoia exhibited by Joe Oliver and Harpers government about “eco-terrorists”

Herbster facts not juvenile name calling. In a debate to one who uses name calling and insults has lost.

While I agree that Enbridge is a company not to be trusted under any circumstances, there is one undeniable (possible) fact.

Alberta oil is coming west. We essentially have a choice of either transporting it by pipeline or by rail. Are all these marchers going to stand in front of every freight train that would be coming through?

Quite frankly I’d be more concerned about the shoddy tankers that will be picking up the oil to head across the ocean. These shipping companies register their ships in countries like Panama that have very loose safety requirements.

Seamutt , tell me anything positive about Northern Gateway and we will have a debate. Go ahead, I dare you!

Pylot, there is no need for Northern Gateway, and despite Harper, Alberta oil will go east.

Northern Gateway supporters, who are usually Conservatives, are misguided on this issue. History will celebrate as heroes those that had the foresight, wisdom and courage to oppose this idiotic project. Harper and his supporters will be remembered as ignoble, crass, and shortsighted.

There are many reasons to oppose this proposed pipeline, to keep the “Keystone Kops” away from our pristine lakes, rivers and environment is one very good reason… yet there are BIGGER and more noble reasons.

“This has really become a conversation about a gateway to global warming, about a symbol that represents a fight that’s so much bigger than one particular pipeline, It’s really part of a much bigger conversation about the tar sands, about climate change, about indigenous rights, about he power of corporations – and the strength of citizen movements to do something about it.” ~ Ben West

The Liberals got elected because, at the time of the election, they opposed the pipeline… now that they have been elected they are changing their tune.

It is NOT Christy Clark’s call to approve or deny this proposed pipeline, this is our call, we the people who will benefit so little, but will risk so much, if this pipeline is built!!! GET LOST ENBRIDGE!

Keep all our resources in the country, no need to give it cheap away. We gave already away way too much.
Our economy is doing just fine, no need for Northern Gateway.

Herb, I responded on another thread to your constant demands for “one good reason for NG’. Did you take the time from your blinded ranting to read them? Probably not.

They did not oppose the pipeline, perhaps it is your comprehension. Go through it step by step and maybe you can understand. It was stated by the Liberals during the election that in order for them to back the pipeline there were 5 conditions that had to be met. The NDP stated they oppose the pipeline, and they oppose Kinder Morgan while it was on the drawing board. The Liberals did not win the election because they said they oppose the pipeline, rather one could say that the NDP lost the election because they opposed all pipelines even before they begin the process which gave the voters in BC a glimpse of the new regime which began to mirror the 90s

Poll after poll has the majority of British Columbians being against this proposed pipeline, get lost Enbridge.

Good turnout at the protest today, couple of hundred people showed up I would say. They needed a better sound system for future rallies though.

It’s quite interesting that if anyone is in favour of this project, they are immediately attacked by the usual suspects. Differing opinions or points of view are not tolerated by the anti-pipeline contingent.

Like interceptor said, we all benefit from resource extraction whether we want to accept it or not. That is not going to change any time soon.

In any case, the oil is going to move west. I’d rather see pipelines over rail.

That’s fine Johnny, you’re entitled to your opinions, whether they’re valid or not. The shipping it by rail is a red herring, designed to shore up support for the piping option. The reason it’s a red herring, is because moving that amount of product by rail is not possible and the cost to make it possible is completely prohibitive.

I would think that you would be a little more discerning about the particular brand of propaganda that you consume, but then again I may have made the mistake of giving you too much credit. The combined daily volume of

bitumen and condensate is just over 700,000 bbls/day. That’s approx 111 million litres of petroleum product/day. That would require at least 6 – 7 hundred tank cars everyday. Are you starting to see how ridiculous your statement could be construed to be? I could go on if you like…

We need refineries, not pipelines to ship the jobs overseas!! IF Mr. Black can build a profitable refinery in Kitimat as he has proposed, they can build the same thing in Alberta. Shipping the processed products would be safer, cheaper, create more jobs etc etc etc.

It’s time for Canadians to quit talking shipping raw products out of the country and start building up our facilities.

It’s absurd that we have a fruit industry in the Okanagan and Del Monte sells us fruit canned in China….

BTW~~never mind the bitumen…what is the chemical composition of the condensate they propose to pump across BC??

I can see the future….my grand kids will be buying gasoline refined in China……

JohnnyBelt wrote:

“It’s quite interesting that if anyone is in favour of this project, they are immediately attacked by the usual suspects. Differing opinions or points of view are not tolerated by the anti-pipeline contingent.”

I do not mind well presented opinion no mater what side of a debate it is about. I do not appreciate opinion provided by a troll who actually does not discuss, but makes disparaging remarks about the people he/she opposes. There is outright hatred in the remarks. As classical bully on the net.

First, contractor started it off. He has not been here all day to defend his so-called position. Add that to the way that he makes his “point”, you have a troll, as he was rightly called.

Just so that we all use the same definition of troll = a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, typically with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

So, I submit that what is not tolerated is the way contractor and some others come barging in and putting everyone that is anti pipeline down by making statements which are untrue.
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So, here are contractor’s words

1.Nice copy and paste job.
a.It was hardly that. I was a paraphrasing of a report with additional localized content. In other words, a typical national story rewritten with local content.

2.Maggie Knight is not a member of this community.
a.Neither are the premier of this province, the prime minister of the country, and any other premiere who speaks on the issue.

3.The community of Prince George is not against pipelines.
a.Says which organization or individual capable of speaking on the issue?

4.These ‘marchers’ wouldn’t have a clue what a hard days work is,
a.He/she is now passing judgement on those who are professionals such as lawyers, doctors, nurses, engineers, foresters, scientists, etc. who are “white collar” workers instead of “blue collar” workers (remember those days when we were a bit more honest about everyone pulling their weight in the economic scheme of things? – brawn or brains)

5. nor do they appreciate the importance of resource extracton in this country
a. And he/she knows that how? We are not buying much resource extraction from other countries, but we do buy manufactured products and services from other countries because the contractor types frequent want, want, want …. And they get by buying cheap products instead of supporting home grown stuff unless it is McFood and taking off to Mexico for a cheap vacation instead of supporting the beaches of West Vancouver Island and PEI.

6. or the modern technology involved in pipeline construction
a. hardly very modern. Been around for a century plus in modern form and over 20 centuries if one included the open aqueduct lined of the Romans carrying water many hundred km. as well s the closed pipes used for shorter distances.

7. Naive people on the government trough trying to destroy our economy.
a. Actually some are quite smart people trying to do the very opposite by putting more value into the extracted products by keeping them here to refine them, create paper instead of pulp, colour the paper for lanterns, etc. rather than exporting whole trees, cut lumber, pulp, etc. just to have it returned to us as flooring, doors, millwork, furniture, toys, etc.etc.

Like that so-called Mayor of Toronto, contractor is a bull in a china shop. typical neauveau riche characteristics.

I am not going to give your comment a thumbs up gus, I am willing to give it two thumbs up!!!

This is how you call trolls out and take them apart! This was a pleasure to read. Thank you gus :-)

So I get it now, trolls only exist in the for category.

When today was this protest?

You got it seamut. If you’re for the pipeline, you’re labelled a troll. I see how the game works.

But hey, 75-150 people turned up for an publicized anti-pipeline rally today. It seems that most people who are supposedly against would rather stay in their warm homes and type away on their computers.

Troll? Nothing off topic there that I can see…

1 – in other words copy and paste with a few extra words tossed in?
2 – statement which is true, not ‘making statements which are untrue’
3 – you know this to be untrue because you have asked all the organizations and individuals personally?
4 – you are saying all the marchers are lawyers, doctors, nurses and not blue collar workers?
5 – we buy boat loads of oil on the east coast from other countries unrefined
6 – comparing aqueducts to pipelines, talk about provoking readers into an emotional response
7 – not going to be refined here regardless, has to be transported to where it will be refined. Port in Seattle is waiting and has the capacity so we will ship the jobs there by rail
8 – this ‘so-called’ mayor instituted a zero percent increase on property taxes his first year as mayor. And when he was councilor he turned in 10 dollar annual expense claims when he had a budget of $200,000. Hardly neauveau riche, he has always liked to drink with the public – gives out his personal phone number to the public even as mayor.

gus and then myself use the term “troll” and look who shows up: seamut, JB and slinky. Go figure hey?

@detoe43; the rally was at 1:00 pm at the Civic Centre.

Speaking of troll…

People#1, im crushed I wasn’t on your troll list. Why the pass? Didn’t I debate your BS strongly enough?

Herbster, I called you out. where are u?2

People#1: “gus and then myself use the term “troll” and look who shows up: seamut, JB and slinky. Go figure hey?”

You’re right. I shouldn’t respond to name calling and other such personal attacks. I have come to fully expect this from you People#1, but gus usually doesn’t go down to that level.