It’s probably going to take a massive amount of fracking to fulfill all seven export licenses(when they are approved).

Texas has gotten into fracking and a big way, this is an aerial view of the extent of natural gas fracking… not much room for wilderness or wildlife hey? That’s some kind of future we are leaving our kids!!!

http://www.popularresistance.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Fracking-Texas-aerial-view-1024×546.jpg

Drill baby, drill.

Won’t all this lng production negate the “benefits” of the carbon tax?

People#1, I dont think its mandatory to frack every well they drill.

If the drilling for Natural Gas is in organic shale rock, then I believe the only way to extract it is by fracking every time.

The extent of NG wells in the Texas aerial photograph seems to indicate they are not above a natural gas lake as just one well (like a straw)could be used to extract the NG.

I believe the extent of natural gas wells in the photo indicates they are drilling and fracking in shale rock. Perhaps not every well in the picture fracks the shale rock, others around it may just be extracting the NG released by the rock fracturing process.

Anyone who knows an expert, please show them the photo and post a follow up to confirm or deny my assumption.

At an rate whether it is NG extraction in shale formations or not, that picture is very unsettling!

The Prince Rupert Natural Gas Transmission Project (PETRONAS)is undergoing the provincial environment assessment process at the moment. If this project already has an approved export licence what are the chances that the Environmental Assessment Office (EAO) will not approve this pipeline? The EAO is supposed to be neutral but actually they appear to be completely irrelevant. How much importance is going to placed on environmental protection? You would think that the pipeline would need approval first before the export licence. They are not going to get the gas to the coast in trucks. These companies are tripping over each other trying to be the first to the coast and I believe that serious environmental mistakes will be made. There does not seem to be a thoughtful coordinated approach to this development such as developing shared pipeline corridors.

Most of what is taking place in the LNG industry in BC is posturing.

There are other Countries around the world that supply gas to Japan, China, etc; They have been supplying this gas for years, and they too will get into fracking.

So at the end of the day it will come down to price, and the ability to get a 30 year signed contract, which as I understand, no one in BC has obtained.

So once the dust settles we will see what actually takes place. What we need to be focused on is how the Province will deal with these LNG companies. I suspect they will sell us out.

Another concern for Canada is that if the US becomes somewhat self sufficient in LNG and Oil, we are in big trouble if we don’t find another market for our production.

The export of LNG and Oil from BC/AB is not about new markets and profits as much as it is about the survival of our energy industry.

Kill the export of oil and gas, and you basically kill the industry. Something to keep in mind.

People#1 & Findme..

When extracting from shale gas formations you need to hydraulic fracture (aka fracking). Although the picture from texas looks quite upsetting northen bc isn’t that bad however there is alot of activity up there.. One only has to drive from fort nelson north to to get an idea of what is going on. In northern bc the activity seems to be located in pockets. You can drive for hundreds of kms through the bush and come around the corner and there will be huge gas plants in the middle of no where..The sites I have personally been to up there are well contained. The main disturbance up there is from road and pipeline construction. The actuall wellsites themselves are quite small.

The link below is to shale gas development maps from the ministry of energy and mines..

http://www.empr.gov.bc.ca/OG/oilandgas/petroleumgeology/Shalegas/Pages/default.aspx#maps

Cheers.

PS if you cross reference the maps in the link with google earth you can see the well sites roads pipelines ect..

The fact that these pipeline companies have been spending millions on helicopter fights, survey crews, collecting environmental data , drilling rigs etc indicates a lot more than posturing is going on. They fully expect to build pipelines and LNG plants. The economics suggest that perhaps not all the proposals will be built but it would be very surprising if none were built

ya right jb frack you plain old common sense dictates that fracking will frack up water tables rivers eco systems keep on fracking and we will wind up just like our neighbours to the east unstable water system no potable water no life. just wait and see.

@ice, if you know anything about hydraulic fracturing, you would know it occurs thousands of feet below the water table.

Also, if you have natural gas in your home and you had a hot shower this morning, it was likely fracked gas. Have a good night.

Thanks for the link northman. I went to the website and reviewed the maps, the one I am attaching is a map for unconventional shale natural gas wells, which requires hydraulic tracking.

The number of wells required for natural gas extraction via fracking is incredible. Each dot on the attached map represents one natural gas well so do the math. If some one can get a google earth map of this exact area it should be comparable to what the Texas ariel photograph looks like, I would think.

http://www.empr.gov.bc.ca/OG/oilandgas/petroleumgeology/UnconventionalGas/Documents/CretaceousShaleNEBC.pdf

I forgot to say, once the map loads, scroll down to the southern part, there must be 10’s of thousands of wells in that area!

The Oil and Gas Industry has the same effect on population centers that any other single resource industry has on towns, villages, and the sustainability of such communities.

Swan Hills, Alberta, which is located in the center of the province, is a good example of oil and gas coming, then going, and then coming again as new technology can access more of the same resources.

The primary industry in Swan Hills is oil and gas. A hazardous waste disposal plant north of the town is also a local employer.

At the height of Swan Hills’ original oil and gas boom, the town peaked at a population of 2,553 in 1979.

It since steadily declined by 900+ people over the following 28 years before rebounding to its current population of 1,858.

Eventually the town’s population will decline once more. It is simply a work camp that pretends to be a town for a couple of decades until the resource is depleted.

It is no different than old goldmining towns. The finite resource is found, people move to where there are jobs no matter how remote, then they move out when jobs diminish. If a new extraction technique is found, there will be a reprieve for a decade or two, then it will finally die a natural death.

Eventually mother nature will heal whatever damage has been done to the environment. The timescale of the “natural” environment of earth is considerably longer than the timescale of particular species of animal inhabitants. ;-)

Aerial view of oil and gas footprints co-existing with forestry footprints around Swan Hills.

http://www.canmaps.com/topomaps/nts50/toporama/orthoimages/083j11.jpg

Typical “workcamp” housing in Swan Hills.

http://media.point2.com/cdr/listing/9a87/eb9e/2eae/dd395b50086741ee75fd/w475h356wm.jpg

People#1.

I forgot to add that the texas photo is of oil wells (grashopper’s). If you look at google earth around Hinton/Edson Alberta it looks almost the same as the texas photo. With fracking you can directional dill multiple directions from one site due to the continuous geology. Oil is more structurally controled and is trapped by folds faults, joints and anticlines meaning you have to drill more holes to hit the target and sucesfully extract oil.

The photos dont really do any justice.. if your ever up in that area take a drive around. The surpising thing about it is it looks like alot of activity on a map but when your up there you can drive 4 hours through swamps and not see anything.

There is no doubt that there is alot of activity and the long term impacts have yet to be determined but the thing we do have going for us in BC is that it is a regulated juridiction. (regulated juridiction is debatable..)

Damn… Google Earth lets me download their application, but it won’t let me run it. If anyone one else can get a Google Earth view of the Beatton River area, I would appreciate it. Hmm… this is MP Bob Zimmer’s area, and he does advertise on this site, maybe he can supply us with a Google Earth view of the Beatton River area?