Be safe and well

and don’t talk or text on that cell if driving, it’s not only your life your gambling with. How important does a text have to be to make you have to respond while driving ???

I’ve been wondering for a while now, how has it become socially acceptable for people to bring their dog into a retail store with them? From little purse mutts to big dogs without even a leash in one case that I witnessed. What happened to those stickers on shop windows that stated “no pets”? To be clear, I’m not talking about guide dogs, those are specially trained and are totally acceptable. I’m not a huge fan of strange dogs so having them present in a place were I shop makes me nervous and a bit uncomfortable and I often leave because of it. Anyways, just an observation and something that makes me “sit up and say what?” Happy Friday!

It seems that the gas stations in town are making an effort to bully Costco into raising their prices. I for one am not impressed with their collusion, and hereby commit to boycott all gas stations other than Costco going forward. If we as a community take a stand and let these thieves know that we will refuse to patronize them….perhaps then they will get our message.

I will type on computers when I have to. I am slowly starting to dictate for some documents I write. It is not quite perfected yet, but on some documents there can be a time saving.

I refuse to text when I have a perfectly good phone in my hand. In addition, I fail to see the need to interrupt whatever else I happen to be doing by typing on a keyboard meant for people with much smaller hands than I have.

So, I am one you will not catch texting while driving, eating, in the company of others, etc.

To me, it is a ridiculous, often anti-social activity.

“It seems that the gas stations in town are making an effort to bully Costco into raising their prices.”

Bully? So are grocery and retail stores which are charging more than Costco for a similar or the same product bullying Costco or any other store which charges less? Or are the Costco’s of the world bullying others to lower the prices on their products?

I thought that was called competition, not bullying ….. I hope we are not starting to use a term meant for something much more serious for something which has been normal in the retail world for decades and even centuries.

GUS,
When it’s a concerted effort by the Oil cartel to nudge Costco’s price upwards by coordinated price hikes on a daily basis, I’m going to call it bullying. Its the big bad oil companies not liking it when a little upstart challenges their turf.
I would not call this competition, instead I would call it collusion and and effort to drag Costco gas prices up to where the cartel wants them to be.
We should all do what we can to insure big oil is not successful.

Happy Friday all. Did you get your latest utility bill? I did, it’s up 13.5% since last fall. That’s $61.00 more for this citizen. Think about that when we go to the polls this fall. ;)

This city is so used to gouging us on gas it doesn’t surprise me they are always way higher than Costco. Have a look at gas prices in kamloops and see how close they are there.

Oh yeah and thanks for gouging me on my utility bill too. Sounds like another 1 term mayor.

I have to hand it to Costco. Good for them! They are certainly doing their part to show how greedy big oil is. Keep it up Costco, you’re my hero! Have a good safe weekend everyone.

Oh, by the way, reporting texting drivers is no different than reporting a drunk driver. They are just as big a menace to everyone else’s safety as a drunk. Think about a friend or other family member who may be coming the other way and meeting them.

I read somethwere that for ever cent the gas companies raise their prices, that results in a 1 million dollar a day clear profit…so to see stations with $1.299 and costco at $1.209 make sense…prices go up on Thursday and come down on Tuesday or so it seems. Stick it to the motorists before the weekend and after..since this is the times we fuel up most…makes perfect sense to their bottom line.
I have almost saved the price of my costco membership already this year, just in my savings of fuel costs…

Texting and chattting on cell phone….I can not for teh life of me figureout what in a persons life would be so urgent that that can’t wait 5 to 10 minutes so they can get to where they are going to talk and text. If it is that urgent… why not pull over and stop? (leave 5 minutes earlier if you are that rushed you have to talk and drive and can’t pull over)

my opinions…

Doesn’t Costco get their fuel from Big Oil? The price gouging is from and only from the local refinery. If you have the means to get your fuel from anywhere but locally then you can sell your fuel cheaper. If you want to be supplied by the local refinery then they dictate your price or they won’t sell you the fuel.

Won’t be long before that utility bill matches the property tax bill at this rate of increases.

Make sure you pull over before reporting that distracted driver.

“Oh yeah and thanks for gouging me on my utility bill too. Sounds like another 1 term mayor.”

Keep in mind that once the bill has been ‘gouged’ up it will never ever go down again, no matter who takes over the next time!

Expenditures expand to fill the increased amount of feathers (money) extracted from the goose – higher salaries, bonuses, wages and so forth.

Keep warm everyone . And if you see a delivery driver working in a parking lot at a store somewhere , do them a favor . I know it is cold out but please give them room to work . Don’t park right behind their truck , and leave them room to get to the store . They are just trying to do a job and they may just be delivering what you are trying to buy . The easier it is for them to get in and out the faster they are out of your way .

Just reading the Citizen about that mother who wants a big birthday party for her autistic son. She needs to get more educated bout this condition otherwise could end up doing a lot of damage to her son that could be irreparable.

Utility bills out??/ Must be only the ones that got raised got theirs first..

Costco??/ i think they could be much cheaper than that. For some time, they were only two cents lower than gas stations.. They say they don’t compete but one of the workers says otherwise..

Keep bundled up… Cold weekend coming up.

Everyone who supports City workers should be more than happy to pay higher utility bills. More for worker wages and benefits, right?

Re: Gas prices, I agree with gus… it’s called competition, not bullying. Why are we so eager to throw that term around?

Besides, I still see people filling up at the more expensive station, when right across the street it’s cheaper.

I took a big of heat recently on comments I made about the Conifex anti-bullying awareness being a “publicity stunt”. I should have correctly used the term attempt at being “socially responsible” . The whole concept that corporations and business are even capable of being socially responsible is a subject of on-going debate. Milton Friedman postulated that “the social responsibility of business is to increase it’s profits.” I tend to side with Milton Friedman’s view that there really is no such thing as business being “socially responsible”.

Conifex raising awareness about “bullying” as an example of it being a socially responsible business, does serve a purpose for itself; it increases positive public opinion from a marketing and “branding” perspective. However, if we look past the superficial, and look at the business practice of increasing it’s profits, we may see another set of “behaviours”. Examples could be: Conifex “killing” a smaller competing lumber manufacturing company to take over a larger market share. Perhaps Conifex could strategically buy surrounding fiber (wood) supply to the point that the smaller company is “starved” out of business?

Now I know “killing” or “starving” the competition are not commonly used business terms, but they can accurately describe company survival tactics in a competitive industry and business setting. I guess in this context “bullying” is not so bad, now is it?

Surviving in a competitive business environment has been compared to engaging in a type of warfare, of which “bullying” is a very mild practice. Interesting….

Johnnybelt,
check your math. The wage increase is no were near the 13% utility tax increase.

Purchased my house in 2008 in the heritage area. My first utility bill was about $275, this year $495.

Doesn’t seem like I am getting much better service for that.

Eddie: “check your math. The wage increase is no were near the 13% utility tax increase.”

Eddie, my math is fine. Is yours? The % doesn’t matter. It’s the actual number that counts. It costs over $40 Million per year to employ City staff (and that doesn’t include benefits). Even a 2% increase to that is a huge amount of money.

Interesting to read the dichotomy in people’s opinios. On the one hand we are demanding smoothly paved roads, snow cleared almost before it lands, robust police and firefighting services, and the convenience of properly functioning utilities. Yet we contually sqawk about paying for it all. Last I checked cities are not operated as profit centres they are operated on a cost recovery basis, meaning if it costs X to run the utilities we pay X for the use of those utilities. It seems to me we have a choice, pay for the increasing costs of running our city, or start condidering what services you could either live without, or reduced.

The city could start reducing costs by cutting back on garbage pick up to every two weeks instead of weekly. I have a household of four adults and I only need to put out the garbage can every other week. It would be even less if I recycled more.

I don’t think it is necessarily the fact of paying for our utilities that bother people, but rather, the increases in the utilities, but the service doesn’t seem to even stay the status quo, let alone improve with each hike. I think it has taken a few years after the reign of king Kinsley to see just what a devastation his tenure as mayor has done to this citys’ infrastructure. And now we are faced with a grossly incompetent city manager and management to try and fix things up. Their only solution has always been…raise taxes, raise utilities, raise user fees, but no improvement in the services.

so what exactly are you saying johnny boy that no one is worth a measly 2% increase get real just to help cover cost on gas fluculations alone doesn’t even come close if you cant handle city costs go live in the bush oh by the way what have your wage increases been the last 5 years???

Huh,
The cost of operating the city never remains static. Inflation, increased wages etc. Will drive costs up with zero expsnsion in the service. As I said before whatever the cost is has to be recovered from we the users.

Hey ice, no need to be so defensive. I was just making a point. Also, punctuation is your friend.

Everyone talking bout gas… Anyone NOTICE the huge hike in propane?? Filled my 20# tank at Costco and it was like almost twenty dollars.. That is like a hike of eight dollars since I last refilled it.. Guess I’ll be doing lil less BBQ’ing hereon in

Last evening as I was leaving work, I noticed a women sitting in her SUV. Then, while parked at the curd, I observed her pull out her mobile phone and interact with it. I then her a male voice (she must have been using the vehicle’s audio system) speak. She then pulled away from the curd and continue her conversation while driving.

The first thing to note is that she did apparently use a hands free solution, which is encouraged.

What I want to point out is that she deliberately prepared to use her mobile phone while driving. This is how people are. They cannot afford to wait to their destination to chat with someone.

I guess if they are not engaging their mind, there is too much internal noise.

“Must quiet the voices in my mind!”

Maybe that is it. Cell phone wireless radiation is causing people to hear voices. They are avoiding the voices in their heads by constantly stimulating their minds with conversation (gossip tripe), or games, or social media.

Ma-mamma We’re all crazy now Ma-ma-mama We’re all crazy now
I don’t want to drink my whiskey like you do
I don’t need to spend my money But still do
PRECHORUS:
Don’t stop now Come on Another drop now So come on
I don’t lie now Come on That’s right That’s right
CHORUS:
I say Ma-mama We’re all crazy now
Ma-ma-mama We’re all crazy now
And you told me Fooled me
That you don’t want to hurt me But you lied
And you tease me And all my ladies desert me I’m gonna get ’em back
PRECHORUS:
CHORUS:
Get crazy
SOLO
I SAY Ma-mama We’re all crazy now Ma-mama Weer all crazy now
Ma-mama We’re all crazy now
MAMA MAMA MAMA WE’RE ALL CRAZY NOW Get crazy with me
MA-MAMA WE’RE ALL CRAZY NOW Come on I’m going crazy Help me
MA-MAMA WE’RE ALL CRAZY NOW Wild and crazy
I SAID Mama Mama Mama We’re all crazy
I SAID Mama Mama Mama We’re all crazy now

@Nytehawwk
I also said the hikes didn’t even keep the status quo, services have declined, I doubt the increases in utilities, taxes, user fees, etc is anywhere near the cost of inflation over the last 10 years or so.

Ice, 2% increase in wages, I wish seniors would get that instead we received CPP 0.9% OAS 0.1% didn’t even notice the difference on my direct deposit.

MMBC.
Does anyone out there have a good handle on MMBC (Multi Material BC) information and how this will impact recycling efforts in PG (or lack of efforts).

What the story behind this?

People#1 just what would your society look like?

Sorry Loki, I don’t agree with you. Especially if driving is part of your livelihood. Personally, i am putting in 60hrs a week (still find time for 250news though), and when I need information I need it fast. Hands free and speaker phone is a great option.

It seems the only way I can get peace and quite is to leave the country, put email on auto-reply and power down the phone.

A nasty by-product of all our great connectivity is the ability to say no, especially when the expectation by others is that you can be reached anytime anywhere.

Here is a funny interview you may enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HbYScltf1c

Gas prices, Costco is a cent cheaper in Kamloops, Comox, are we being scammed by Costco?

Don’t forget the taxes added to fuel especially the big scam carbon tax.

Propane price up because of the record breaking cold winter over much of North America which peaple#1 ignores.

You people are being sucked in by Costco. Once they get a good clientel base their gas will just a a penny or two less then that of big oil.
Cheers

Here is a very informative read from Dr. Patrick Moore

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/02/26/confessions-of-a-greenpeace-droput-to-the-u-s-senate-on-climate-change/

One has to wonder, with his money, does Al Gore even own a snow shovel? He’s probably living near the rising sea level in Californee while his disciples snow blow his Tennessee mansion driveway. Can you say alleged two faced swindler with a gimmick? I can. I said alleged to cover my ice cold frozen butt.

Posted by: seamut on February 28 2014 10:00 AM
People#1 just what would your society look like?

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Harrison Bergeron. :)

it is not relevant and it does not matter if your livelihood depends on driving.
1 distracted driving is against the law, period.
Enforcement and compliance are other matters.

2 the life and well-being of me and mine trumps your need to mask the voices in your head.

3 my post was an observation of how mobile phones are used by many people. The person I observed actuallu planned and proceeded to engage in distracted driving. The fact she used a hands free solution is a positive in this situation, None the less, this person engaged in distracted driving deliberate in spite of the recent attention being drawn to the subject.

4 “A nasty by-product of all our great connectivity is the ability to say no, especially when the expectation by others is that you can be reached anytime anywhere.”
You don’t even have to “say” no. Just don’t answer or use the phone while driving. I hear they have some cool feature like voice mail. Not only that, but text messages and emails do not normally expire in a limited amount of time. you can view and respond to SMS and email when you are not engaged in driving.

go

Is driving and using hands free more or less of a distraction than having a conversation with that person if they were actually in the vehicle with you. Where do you draw the line? Whats next driving with children? that’s pretty damn distracting.

Great interview, only2c!!

Makes me think that it might make the roads safer for some people to text rather than having them driving around lonely, depressed and teary eyed and not paying attention to driving ….. ;-)

Driving while pulling a trailer with a boat, quads, snowmobiles, etc. on them is distracting because one has an extra thing to consider. On top of that, you are already daydreaming of high marking, for instance, later in the day and getting an adrenalin rush from just that thought.

Then you notice you are half way into the next lane.

It just happens that using a hand held device is easier to spot that daydreaming.

Just so that we are all talking about the utility bill. So far roads, snowclearing, police and firefighting are not utilities. Maybe that is yet to come.

I am looking at my Jan 1/2014 utility bill

1. $188.64 for flat sewer
2. $217.08 for flat water
3. $70 for small container garbage

Total $475.72 for 6 months
That makes it $951.44/year

I bet you if they went to round pipes instead of flat pipes, they would be more efficient and the cost would go down. Or maybe flat water means I have to put in my own carbonation at this end.

I thought there would be economies of scale when delivering water to so many people.

here are some rates for those on meters per cubic metres

chilliwack$0.4308
pg $0.4817
ottawa$1.6030
vancouver$2.38508 months
vancouver $2.98804 months
toronto$2.9579

Seems we are getting a good deal compared to large cities and in the ballpark for small cities. Kamloops is similar to PG.

seamut asks; “People#1 just what would your society look like?”

How about putting people’s interests first before corporate interests?

http://www.pinterest.com/pin/310748443009888668/

“People were created to be loved. Things were created to be used.The reason the world is in chaos is because things are being loved and people are being used! “~ Author Unknown

Yes, I know… my society is so unreal and utopian, yet not too long ago, this was our society! Myself, and others, just want us to return to it.

Posted by: People#1 on February 28 2014 11:31 AM

Yes, I know… my society is so unreal and utopian, yet not too long ago, this was our society! Myself, and others, just want us to return to it.

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You’ve lost me here. When did we have a utopian society and were the hell was it?

“You people are being sucked in by Costco. Once they get a good clientel base their gas will just a a penny or two less then that of big oil.” .. Well, they have been waiting a long long long time in Kamloops to start screwing the people, or just maybe, they use gas prices to get people to shop at Costco. I think I will go with the latter explaination.

Just got back from shopping. Gas in the heights 136.9 at one station, across the street 131.9. Costco 120.9. So i saved 9.62 on a fill up. The price of gas has gone up the last 3 weekends, I wonder why.

People#1, where, when?

axman; all you have to do is remember back to a time when all the stores were closed on Sunday. Imagine that, a time when on one day a week hardly anyone worked, a day that was dedicated to spending time with what we truly valued, our family, friends, and “people”! Now, it’s not just business 7 days a week, it’s 24 hours per day, who has time for family, friends, and “people”?

Can’t find work? Get a camp job… spend even more time away from your family, friends, and the “people” you care about. This arrangement is very convenient for business and corporations, not so much us “people”!!!

You might want to read / watch; “The Assent of Money”

The weekend is here, so tonight, or Saturday night, pop some popcorn and watch it on youtube. It is a bit long, but by the end of it, you will understand the changes we are seeing, and how those changes are not necessarily positive and healthy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xx_5PuLIzc

The problem at city hall is they are a top down organization that can’t seem to manage efficiently regardless of the taxes they collect.

The increase in taxes is not because of inflation, but rather it is a tax on incompetence and entitlement that we all pay for (more and more can see this with eyes wide open)… and that we rightly should object to, for those of us that are awake.

This is a direct result of the ‘through the managers desk’ type of pinch point of information that is designed to diminish openness and transparency that is vital to any democracy, and as a result the people taxed become disenfranchised with their will to participate and we get 30% turnout at election time and the fox then gets to guard the hen house. We have an accomplice city council in PG because they can then absolve themselves of responsibility in their minds (ie blame city hall for the problems).

What we need is someone to go into city hall with a big stick and sweep clean the old ways of a closed club (this would have to be a mayor or a united council), and open it up to greater public scrutiny, accountability, and participation. The management structure should be flattened with the front line workers taking on more responsibility and accountability to the public, institutionalizing a more open process to decision making, and respecting actual referendums as guidelines on important issues that should be held at election time alongside the vote for mayor and council.

We vote at election time on broken promises that sell good in a campaign, and then once our politicians get elected they make deals behind closed doors and ram it down our pigeon holes with a reverse petition if we are lucky… a process designed to remove accountability to the electorate and slanted towards backroom deals with no hope of the public ever stopping the done deals… not only because the deal is all but done by the time the public finds out, but also because the democratic system has been perverted to ‘bully’ the electorate by forcing them to out themselves in opposition by taking away the right to a secret ballot and forcing each voter to identify themselves to the partisans who keep a black list (ie Harpers enemies list) of those that dare to oppose the powers that be.

The authors of the reverse petition process were the enemies of democracy and we now have to live with that until we have a provincial government that can once again respect local democracy. Instead we will get four year terms and more reverse petition processes for lack of actual democratic process.

We have a circumvented democracy that has lost its legitimacy. We have only 30% that still participate in the charade and the rest that have either surrendered to a totalitarian form of corpocracy, or are raising their voices to the injustice with futility. At some point this broken system will have to be corrected… it will happen in our life times, and one only hopes when it comes to a head it happens in an orderly fashion before much more is lost of our democratic heritage as citizens with rights.

Time Will Tell

How come no one is talking about Bill Gaal and his inability to manage snow removal in Prince George or his responses to the criticism about the lack of snow clearing in December and January?

In January he accused us of wanting instant snow removal throughout the whole city, that our expectations had changed. Then he suggested it was the Unions fault. Now he’s saying it’s due to our old equipment, and that we need to upgrade most of it and wants $6500000 to do this.

It has now come out that he ordered the City Workers on the weekend of Jan. 4 & 5 NOT to do any snow clearing, only sanding! His answer was that the City was in intense negotiations with the Union. WTF???? It seems to me like he was attempting to create more anger towards the union for lack of snow removal. What possible reason would you put out an order stating not to drop your snow plows, only allow sanding on unploughed streets?? Something stinks in Denmark.

Ask JB Northern Citizen, he’ll inform you of how it all works.

I see our local snow clearing equipment sales personnel have been up late at night stacking the opinion poll here.

And everyone is crying about gasoline prices!

http://www.bcgasprices.com/index.aspx?fuel=D&area=Prince%20George&dl=Y&intro=Y

“The increase in taxes is not because of inflation, but rather it is a tax on incompetence”

In many cases it is actually the incompetence of the past councils and administrators, especially during the era of Kinsley, that is causing the current situation.

I do not know why we were borrowing money for maintenance. I suspect it might be in the belief that we would start growing again at rates close to those of other communities and that we could sue the taxes and service charges coming in from building and occupying new subdivisions and new commercial and industrial properties.

We also seem to be forgetting the Terasen money we are accumulating. That should be figured into this whole equation as well. We are saddled with a forced saving while having to borrow money to maintain our infrastructure. So, are our taxes rising to pay for creating a savings fund or are they rising to borrow money to fix infrastructure and provide adequate service?

It is moot which one it is.

There is a lot more going on at City Hall than meets the eye.

We need an audit to determine how money was spent in the past 10 years, and we need up front **honest** information from our elected Politicians, and administration as to what will take place in the next 10 years, where the money will be spent, and on what.

This is an election year. We need tough questions and honest answers.

We should get started sooner, rather than later. I still do not know who is going to run for what. Perhaps they like to leave it to the last 30 days so we do not have time to evaluate them.

Anyone who doesn’t think it is cold out today has clearly not been outside on the hart. With the wind it feels like -25 up here. 5 mins outside and my hands are pretty much numb. There’s no sitting in the sun outside, north, south, east or west side today and getting warm, as I read someone else say earlier.

“I see our local snow clearing equipment sales personnel have been up late at night stacking the opinion poll here.”
Lol I think you might be right Dragon. Add in a few of Gaals friends maybe too. I have yet to talk to one person that thinks we replace the equipment, yet the poll is over 50%?

I think People#1’s ‘utopian society’ existed sometime in the 1950’s based on the description.

Newsflash: Those days are gone and they’re not coming back. Time to stop the hand wringing and deal with it.

“1950’s???… those days are gone and not coming back”???

Ummm… Newfoundland / Labrador only recently passed a bill that stopped regulating Sunday’s as a holiday (1998).

New Brunswick still has a “Day of Rest Act” that observes Sunday’s as a holiday.

Be honest in answering this questions JB; do you actually ever get tired of being wrong?

Palopu… pretty close, but I think you meant to say: “we need an adult to determine…” not an “audit” …

It is more than just slightly apparent that you do not have any adults at your City Hall.

V.

People: “do you actually ever get tired of being wrong?”

I find this statement interesting coming from someone who recently promised never to post here ever again if proven wrong, which gus did quite handily. And yet, here you are…

So, let’s see if I have this right. Your ‘utopian society’ means we don’t shop on Sunday? I didn’t know it was that simplistic, but I should have considered the source. My bad.

“1950’s”??? JB it was not until 1985 that BC, and a number of other provinces, deregulated Sunday shopping. BC did this in preparation for Expo 1986, with Liquor stores and pubs being allowed open on Sundays as well. It was all about cashing in on all those foreign visitor’s $$$$$.

“The Canadian process of Sunday shopping deregulation began in 1985 when the Supreme Court of Canada found the federal Lord’s Day Act, which had designated Sunday as a weekly day of rest since its adoption in 1907, to be unconstitutional.” ~The Impact of Sunday Shopping on Employment and Hours of Work in the Retail Industry: Evidence from Canada, Mikal Skuterud*, Family and Labour Studies Division, Statistics Canada.

That utopian world is located in a room that has a skunky smelling smokey haze drifting across it or looking back a little further involved Wavy Gravy warning to avoid the brown acid Man.

Hey everyone, you are all witness to JB using his low IQ and ignorance to attack and harass me on this discussion board again. ;-) Stop picking on me JB.

How about putting people’s interests first before corporate interests?

http://www.pinterest.com/pin/310748443009888668/

“People were created to be loved. Things were created to be used.The reason the world is in chaos is because things are being loved and people are being used! “~ Author Unknown

“Stop picking on me JB..”

Use your free healtcare provided to you in this country and get you feelings checked out..

Now thats putting people first..;)

Sounds like the author was around during the time of slavery in the USA and other places … or maybe an Egyptian or Roman of old.

Then again, it might be someone from a religious sect who thinks that God uses people.

People are used all the time, and people have been used since they first became people rather than staying with the apes.

Al we have today is modern day versions, with the particular version depending on the part of the world one looks at.

“Sounds to me like the author was around during the time of slavery in the USA and other places…” You are spot on about the “slavery” gus, but the time frame is much more recent.

“The Super Bowl is one of the largest human trafficking events in the United States.” — Greg Abbott, Texas Attorney General

By any definition, human trafficking in the sex trade is a form of “slavery”. Young women , girls, and boys, are being abducted worldwide and transported to more “affluent” countries to be used in the sex trade.

So what “thing” is more important than “people” in this situation? The answer is “money”, it is being loved more than people!

There are not too many of us around anymore gus, but some of us still believe “people” should come first.

Going from Sunday shopping at the Pine Center to sex slaves in one leap,it sure looks like you cracked the seal on the bottle real early today. Bottoms up.

So it looks like Jason Kenney is a supporter of income splitting and he believes that this is a good policy for “stable family units”, you know, those “classic” suburban families where dad works, mom stays home to cook, clean and look after the kids.

This has to be the case since a household with two working parents would realize virtually no benefit from the income splitting policy that was previously discussed by the Conservatives.

Does this party not realize that it is 2014 and not 1985? I’m seriously beginning to question the mental capacity of anyone in that party who would support this policy. At least Jim Flaherty had it right.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jason-kenney-says-income-splitting-is-for-stable-family-units-1.2555515

“There are not too many of us around anymore gus, but some of us still believe “people” should come first.”

Obviously you did not understand what wrote.

I wrote that using people is nothing new. It has been around every since humans walked the earth.

All you are is a person who is full of himself because of causes.

I ask once more, when did you ever work on your own or with others to further a cause and actually make a difference to the point when people thanked you for what you did for them?

You should go to this site and join in. Tons of petitions to sign and debates to join where you will find like-minded people.

http://www.care2.com

Have you ever shopped on a Sunday or a Stat Holiday people#1? Be honest and answer a direct question for once.

If you think about it, the corporations of today are not much different than the feudal lords and their serfs of bygone years. It was a symbiotic relationship. They both needed each other.

As a shaw customer I sure get a lot of junk mail, does anyone else have the same issue or a solution?

So there was a time when all stores where closed on a Sunday? Interesting.

Olympics is over, now Putin invading the Ukrainian. Gee I thought only the evil US invaded.

@ Walter198; most email software programs contain a “spam folder”, might want to search for it and adjust it’s setting.

@etwitt / HG; I am not jumping from shopping on Sundays to sex slaves, gus referred to the unknown author’s quote as being from sometime back in the slave trade area, I simply provided him with a more “current” version of the sex slave trade alive and thriving today.

etwitt/HG; you seem to have a tough time following the discussion thread so here’s a test; please respond to me in the affirmative or negative;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJX1REQB12o

@ gus; you say; “I ask once more, when did you ever work on your own with others to further a cause…”

Interesting, I have reviewed your previous comments and no where do you ask that question, so why the “I ask once more” bit? Other than a feeble attempt at trolling for information about me, care to focus on debating the subject at hand?

I don’t understand why people are so surprised by the increases on their utility bills. The City has passed several bylaws that show how much the increases are from 2014 to 2017. Go to their web site and search for “Utility Bylaws” and be prepared to be shocked.

So I guess you shop on Sundays and holidays,helping the stores be profitable on those days and keeping the employees away from their families hey peeps. Should change handle from people#1 to pile-of#2. Your high horse has no legs.

Keep digging peeps. You’ve been exposed countless times as a nutbar and you still keep at it. How much do you get paid a post?
Do you get paid more based on the degree stupidity or is it just a flat rate?

Oh goodie…. pink hard hat week is over.

Has anyone heard of doing a drug test and criminal record check to rent a house??

The City manager is the reason this City is where its at, I’m shocked folks dont make the connection to the day Beth james arrived and everything going south….Moral at City hall has never been lower, and now the Police and Fire dept and basically EVERYONE else is to report to her directly, she is a Dictator that is only using this city of PG position to leapfrog into a better provincial job. Mayor Green and Beth james will be the ruin of this City for many many years to come…..No matter who gets elected as mayor next they are inheriting a sinking ship!

Peeps is just like a wackamole game.

LOL… rumdogg, It’s the weekend, am I not allowed to have a bit of fun, while making some serious comment about our society and the current “human condition”?

moose, the Residential Tenancy Act has a section on Tenant Rights. At first blush, this practice appears to be discriminatory.

http://www.rto.gov.bc.ca/documents/Fact%20Sheets/RTB-118.pdf

People can relive the ’50s by just getting on or off an airplane at our airport.

Thanks @People#1. That’s what I figured but I wanted to see if anyone has heard of it or been asked to do it.

http://www.taxpayer.com/commentaries/bc–costs-outweigh-benefits-of-expensive-off-road-vehicle-regulations

LOL….okay, I’ll ask the question.
Peeps, what is the difference between your weekend and your day job ? It’s 250 all the time. :-)

I must confess, I never did get rid of my second laptop, which I do my work on! My work gets done, and I get my news facts and entertainment from this news blog on this laptop.

Oh, did I mention that I play online chess two games at a time? Have a good weekend rummy ;-)

harbinger before Xmas I did much traveling around Australia and traveled through a few of those 50’s airports. Your point is?

Peeps hates any question where he would be exposed as a hypocrite. That’s the problem with these idealist types. They are all sizzle but no steak.

rumor cougars sold! 2 X cougars and 2 Ft St. James business men.

seamutt…Next time there ask them if they were gonna or are gonna lengthen their runways for larger airplanes like we did. Nice to know other people are stuck in the ’50s too. Any population counts on those airports visited?

Does any one know what is happening with the ex Mr.Gs at the bottom of Peden Hill?

Hobart 250,000 people terminal not as nice no potential as cargo hub, kind of out of the way next stop Antarctica. Rains a lot and can get cold, snow on the hills, think Victoria.

Hervey Bay and area population same as PG. Terminal not near as nice as PG. No potential as a cargo hub. Hot.

“Peeps hates any question where he would be exposed as a hypocrite. That’s the problem with these idealist types. They are all sizzle but no steak.” Seriously? You are calling other people hypocrites? Let me refer you to a post under another thread where you stated that because Taseko is rejected, there are going to be no jobs for anyone in mining in the future, and then let me remind you of another comment of yours where the anti-pipeline people are just a bunch of fear mongerers who know nothing. Seems to me, both of those statement show a pretty high degree of hypocrisy on your part.

Craziest rumor I heard was that the Peden Hill Mr G would become a drive through sushi bar lol… IMO the best thing that could happen there would be for the federal government (#16 is a federal highway) to buy the land and use it to facilitate a much needed underpass for Cowart Road, so they could eliminate the intersection at the bottom of the hill and make the hill safe for winter conditions with all the heavy traffic it takes. The traffic volume is only going to grow there and the problem will as well.

With the intersection at the bottom of the hill gone the grade could be leveled out a bit and trucks would never have any need to chain up even if YRB is missing in action. Congestion on the busiest piece of highway in Northern BC could be alleviated a little until we could get a south Fraser crossing online.

The problem with that is our MP’s for PG are missing in action. Heck Dick Harris doesn’t even live within 500km of PG anymore, so why would he care or even know what kind of infrastructure PG needs.

If one was to take out the MR G it could easily accommodate an underpass with merge lanes onto #16 to and from the west side as well as onto #16 from the East side. Major traffic problem in PG solved for at least another ten years and probably cheaper than building a Fraser south crossing.

“The firearms association said the ban is part of a quiet RCMP effort to prohibit firearms in Canada.

“Access to Information records show that RCMP have an aggressive firearms reclassification agenda and that prohibitions will not stop with the Swiss Arms series rifles,” the association said on its website.

Its Facebook page is even more direct with this posting: “Has RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson declared war on law-abiding firearm owners?”

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/swiss-arms-classic-green-rifle-ban-to-be-reviewed-by-government-1.2555746?cmp=rss

Wonder when harper will tell the RCMP who the boss is?

Gus I suspect you might be right about the catch-22 with city finances, but I think it goes a lot deeper than that. One can’t blame the Tarasan deal for the rapid escalation of utility bills and the inept failure of our road maintenance management. Heck we can’t even afford as a city to have garbage cans in Rainbow park anymore and its supposed to be the number 2 park of importance in this city. That would have been unheard of 20-years ago.

Actually both MPs for PG don’t live within 500km of the city… explains a lot when it comes to highway 16 never getting any upgrades that are needed.

Seamutt, one just needs to look at what happened in High River last year to see that the RCMP do not care about the law or gun owner rights when it comes to confiscation. They operate on a level above the law it would appear. That is what happens when one has a national police force that is above proper democratic oversight.

Actually just thinking about this, and it would appear the closest any MP resides near PG would likely be Nathen Cullen representing the North Coast… hum so that would in a way make him more of a local MP than the ones we actually have as our official MP’s….

Huh,
The cost of operating the city never remains static. Inflation, increased wages etc. Will drive costs up with zero expsnsion in the service. As I said before whatever the cost is has to be recovered from we the users.