Another truck accident??? WHATTTT is going on up here??????????

There is lots of them coming down the Hart and I have seen them becoming very impatient having to wait in the left turn lane – often taking chances by trying to make a quick left turn when there is a bit of a gap in the oncoming traffic.

Then gravity takes over.

Drive faster boys…thats one more to come

I sure hope that this driver gets some kind of punishment for this. I’m sorry if you lose your job but when you could possibly kill someone just because you can’t drive well or are impatient, then you deserve what you get.

I sure hope the RCMP or DOT do something about this. Scary.

The way I here it it was a mechanical. Fifth wheel broken. So maybe a ticket to the truck owner. May as well shoot the driver while we are at it.
Just saying

Almost everyday I’m cut off by the logging trucks. They just go expecting traffic to come to a complete stop.A couple of days ago six of us had to stop. Isn’t it against the law to cut off on-coming traffic on a highway?

I see the armchair experts are at it again. It’s frustrating trying to to turn off or get onto the highway at Noranda when most people are doing well over the posted speed limet. Hardly anyone will move over to let anyone into traffic.

I hate driving the Hart highway. It is like going into the hinterlands to the hinterlands to me. That stretch of highway from the Noranda to at least Austin Rd is in bad need of a major overhaul. It is a provincial highway so the City needs to push a bit harder, assuming that they have been pushing, to get it started before the next election.

That being said, I have not got the faintest clue why the incident occurred. There is not nee to be an armchair expert in this case because most of us have enough brain cells to recall the frequency of such incidents and compare them to future such incident frequencies.

Then there are those who are actually in the early stages of being experts and are aware that there is an increase in the frequency and severity of such incidents not only in this part of the world, but also the rest of BC, much of the rest of Canada and the USA, as well as in other countries.

I’ll get some links and post them separately so that people like wrinkledawg can compare his/her expertise to others on the site … ;-)

Right and logging truck drivers are always doing the speed limit.

btrucker- The other day you said Canfor was responsible for all logging and trucking accidents. Funny how things change in a day or three.

On the news, broken pin police said no charged.

For your information Gus. I was there. Seen the broken bolt.is that good enough for you?

Actually not. Why did the bolt break? No preventative maintenance.

Is that good enough for you wrinkledawg?

New Zealand had a similar situation and they did something about it over the last 10 or so years. The put a program in place which decreased rollovers involving log trucks from 6.5 for every 5 million kilometres travelled in 1998 to less than 1 in 2010.”

What is CILA and other truck logger associations in BC doing? Better still, what is the number in BC … perhaps we are doing better than NZ.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rotorua-daily-post/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503438&objectid=11014010

There are similar increases in incidents involving log trucks in Alabama.

http://www.mlrlawyers.com/blog/2013/11/truck-accident-increase-a-concern-for-alabama-residents.shtml

So, wrinkledawg, since you are the expert, tell me what the failsafe system is in securing a load. There should be at least two redundancies in a log securing system in my opinion.

If a pin broke its hard to blame anyone… possibly just metal fatigue. Not much one could do for redundancy on that. Possibly the pin release was damaged by loose chain links, or a hop over the fifth wheel landing on the release pin bending it so it didn’t get a full lock? One would think if he made it to town the pin was locked to get that far, so metal fatigue/failure seems more likely.

As for heavy traffic turning off onto Noranda… they get no respect from the Hart 500. Coming in from the North one has to consider the heavy traffic is making a tight turn and needs to take it wide or cut over curbs and risk not making the corner… and if stopped for traffic heading north, then the trailer is endangering traffic heading south because the Noranda turn off is on a blind corner heading south and its not quiet 3 lanes wide especially in the winter months.

So the trucking turning onto Noranda not only has to worry about the North bound traffic that won’t leave a space to cross, but also the South bound traffic that could slam into the rear of the trailer sticking out on the corner. Once stopped with a long load its not easy to clear the road before speeding traffic is trying to push through… if they have the time to stop, then they might have to is a fact of life. I remember backing trailers onto the docks on first avenue… traffic has to stop to wait and that is just the way it is and sometimes its no different for trucks turning onto Noranda. In a perfect world it wouldn’t be that way.

Yes, I suspected a broken pin. Very unusual. I had a LeTurneau lift a trailer right off the fifth wheel plate one time but the pin didn’t break.

If that truck turned the corner a bit slower, the pin would not have broke, just look at the pic. And yes, they do wear.
But my real complaint this morning is the hospital. They can pay the nurses 400 to 500
per day wages, and not feed the patients
properly. The food is absolute crap. Also
there were no nurses at the desk. When I found one, she snapped at me and said we are having a shift change. Maybe they need a raise.

Stand at the corner of Highway 97 and Austin Road, at the Hart Centre and notice the number of vehicles, including logging trucks, driving through red lights from all directions. It is a miracle that there is not more accidents and deaths.

I think it is time for Canfor to look into alternative routes for the increased logging truck traffic coming through our city proving logs for there P.G sawmill. Trucks coming in from the north should maybe use the old summit lake road route? The only thing Canfor would have to do is look at opening up the junction were the old summit lake road meets the north wood pulp mill road.This would drastically reduce the truck traffic using Noranda Rd. and would most likely decrease the turn around time for the log truck drivers which would possibly allow them to get and extra trip.

Logging traffic on winding narrow Summit Lake Rd? The pavement would be broken up in days. I am sure the locals would not be happy.

I was there too & yes it was a broken pin which is totally unavoidable. It’s just like a flat tire, you never know when to expect it. I’m just thrilled no one was hurt.

Hospital food is bad almost everywhere. The only place I have had hospital food that I liked is Japan. Maybe instead of the Mayor et al. going on their next junket to China they could bring in a Japanese dietician or two for a consultation.

Maverick says….”Trucks coming in from the north should maybe use the old summit lake road route?”

I would like to see you explain to the people living along Old Summit Lake Rd how good this will be for their neighborhood. I’m pretty sure you know how that will end for you.

geez maybe a solution would be a traffic light at this intersection not that anyone drives to traffic light signals anyways in this city

Old summit lake road was just a suggestion. Using this route would alleviate the congestion of the hart highway. It would make more sense to approach Canfor and have them build a road through from salmon valley maybe adjacent to the gas line through to the mill site. Being that the majority of there timber is going to haled in from the north from now on.

Yeah right. Good luck with that one. If you were Canfor, would you pay to build a road when there are free ones already available. NOT. They are in the business to make money not to shell it out to make roads because some of us don’t like them using the Hart Hwy.

Ewitt – you keep misquoting me. I will repeat I said Canfor trades safety for profits. Your kind of a dimwit.

Seems to me that it is the owner of the truck that is trading safety for profits by not properly maintaining his truck, endangering his life and all others who use the road he is on. It is the owners of the trucking and logging companies who are responsible for their employee’s safety. Canfor is just the customer of a service that they provide.

also it would be “you’re kind of a dimwit”dimwit:-)