“if this property is rezoned, then the way will have been cleared for all properties bordering on Lethbridge to be rezoned commercial”
Exactly – its called progress. The entire neighborhood should be purchased and bulldozed to make room for more parking and medical care facilities. Keep it centralized.

Interceptor. You might have a different point of view if it was your property.

Its not called progress, its called piss poor planning. If anything they should raze the Northern Health building and relocate it somewhere else. Perhaps on the vacant property just South of where they are presently located.

Not if the price was right ;). Downtown Vancouver was a residential neighborhood at one time too

I drove down 12th last Friday. My F150 barely made down the road because of cars parked on both sides of the street. One car was parked right on the corner of 12th and Edmonton – and I mean Right on the corner, even with the stop sign. A pedestrian would have had to leave the sidewalk to go around the car.

I agree that residential parking passes would solve the parking issues in the neighborhood. This proposal wouldn’t make much difference. The problem is already there.

The hospital should also fix its parking lot so that people parking don’t get fined for being in there longer than they anticipated which often happens. The airport has a good system, and the hospital should follow that.

must not be friends with The Green team

So, Haldi subdivision says NO NO NO – but council says, we’re going to do it anyway.

But Crescents says NO NO NO and council says, we should listen to the people.

Hmmm. What’s different in this picture?

commonsence might be on to something.

Palopu wrote: “If anything they should raze the Northern Health building and relocate it somewhere else”

I would not raze a perfectly good building. In fact, there are rumours that may be another building that has structural capacity to go up a few more floors. Even without that, there is plenty of space to provide a single consolidated site for Northern Health needs plus additional parking.

There was a master plan for future hospital expansion prepared in the 1970s which showed expansion to the site across Edmonton with pedestrian and vehicular bridge connection across the street that linked parking garages as well as hospital/clinic spaces.

In my opinion, the main hospital site is being developed like a large campus that pretends it has a limitless boundary for its sprawling development. Is there a current “master” plan for future development available to the general public, or is it all ad hoc development?

what is the point of an ocp if they are just going to keep adjusting it.

As far as the crescents go, that is supposed to be a heritage area from the origins of this town. So, they should not IMHO modify the ocp, and further the medical services are now crowding the area. Perhaps instead of an unwavering commitment to the PAC, they should have an unwavering commitment to a new, larger medical services district. Maybe even closer to the UNBC school, being as it is supposed to be a teaching hospital.

Here is another view of the vote taken.

All Councillors were present at the meeting. With 9 there, a majority would be 5 with 4 dissenters.

However, Councillor Koehler excused himself since the proponent was his family doctor.

From that very moment on the vote became interesting. With 8 left, a tie vote would be 4 to 4. With a tie vote, the motion would be defeated.

So, it only took 4 to defeat the motion.

Going around the table, Krause, Everitt, Hall and Skakun spoke against the motion.

With that, the motion, if those four voted as they stated, would be defeated.

Stolz, Wilbur, and Frizzell voted for the motion.

Then came the Mayor. Thinking strategically, her vote no longer mattered with respect to the motion on the floor. However, she could safely vote for the motion and provide a critique of the apparent lack of planning or poor planning for the hospital “campus” which is placing a strain on the perimeter streets. Whether that was her intention or not, I do not know. But that is one of the ways of looking at the events.

Enquiring minds want to know …. ;-)

The mayor is in her way OUT She has enough people that can’t look her in the face…. She is just buying time until back to the nick knack store

Parking is most definitely a problem ..the parking garage built by the hospital needs more levels added if possible..Specialist offices along Lethbridge would be an asset to the emergency room as the specialists could be close by for an emergent consult if needed during regular office hours..

Bet ya if it was a Shooters liquor store or pub they would’ve passed it.

From personal experience…the Crescent Community Association members are some the most whiney over opinionated NIMBY’s this city has ever seen.

You go to any interior city of any size – Kamloops – Vernon – Kelowna and see how the areas close to their Hospitals have developed into incredibly successful professional business areas mixed with heritage homes and happy neighborhoods.

The upgrades the doctors and professionals have put in place on their properties have revived otherwise dying neighbourhoods.

The Crescent at one time ‘was’ an impressive area. It is now inner city and will continue to deteriorate until the NIMBY’s move on and allow the area to be developed into a heritage business area.

Been there – done that. Couldn’t wait to get out of the neighbourhood.

Good riddance.

Wow Opine, who crapped in your corn flakes?

The Crescent Community Association is a very active association and when given the option to speak up about what they do and don’t want in the neighborhood, they take advantage of it.

As a result, it is a very nice neigborhood to live in and the majority of the people in the neighborhood know eachother. there are some buisness mixed in with residential and it seems to work very well. The people on this street just didn’ty think this was going to work very well. Nimbyism is not really typically associated to doctors offices. there are a few doctors offices scattered throughout the crescents already.

I have heard of a few nuts that recently moved out of the area and thus improved it a great deal. sooo…I guess I am glad you left!

I guess the proponent doesn’t know the right people in this case.

I was completely floored by the mayors comments on the radio this morning, she cares about neighbourhood values? Is this a turnaround for the fall election?

HomeInPG

You asked me a question.
The answer lies in your last sentence.
The feeling is mutual.

Ask yourselves a question – crescents people. If your neighbourhood is so great why don’t you see children playing in the streets. That’s the sign of a healthy neighbour hood.

The crescents is old news and other than a handful of properties – it’s deteriorated to a state that truly is – inner city.

Take the test PG. Drive through the neighborhood and ask yourself if you would want to live there.

Why would kids play in the street when there is a huge park with a playground right in the middle of the neighborhood that people actually visit from all over the city?

Try finding a lot to build in the crescents – good luck, there are none. And when does become available, they are not cheap.

There are some really nice new houses popping up in the neighborhood and some of the nice character houses are being upgraded, there is a very nice mix of old and new – something for every budget!

I don’t know what neighborhood you are talking about, I took a drive through the neighborhood last year and decided that is exactly where I wanted to live. Now I know everyone on my street – including the neighborhood kids (who don’t play in the streets because that is just downright stupid when you have nice big yards and a beautiful park).

Big parking lot at Foothills and the Nechako bridge. Shuttle bus service to the hospital area? Larger phone booth to replace Phoenix Medical Centre clinic? Build it and they will come? Build anything too small and they will whine. Go big or go home.

Big parking lot at Foothills and the Nechako bridge. Shuttle bus service to the hospital area? Larger phone booth to replace Phoenix Medical Centre clinic? Build it and they will come? Build anything too small and they will whine. Go big or go home.

The Crescents Community is a misnomer. The boundaries of this area is from 15th to 3rd ave, Carney St to Vancouver St.

What responsible parent would send their grade school child from anywhere on 15th avenue, Vancouver Street or 3rd ave to take their lives in their littles and find there way to a playground at Duchess Park.

What elementary child should be sent to cross 5th, Winnepeg or Carney to get to this wonderland playground.

HomeInPg is painting a pretty picture that doesn’t exist.

I lived in an upscale house in the Crescents for many years and lost track of how many encounters we had with drug addicts, drunks, winos, street people, B&Es and constant flow of police related incidents. My vehicles where in secure areas and were broken into at least a half dozent times.

There are a lot of people in that neighborhood wearing rose colored glasses. The crescents community can pretend that the things I say are untrue – but they are wrong.

I’ll say it again. The crescents community is inner city and has all the problems associated with that designation.

I now live an area that my children can freely move about the neighgorhood without worrying about stepping of the curb or being accosted by someone that is so high they can’t walk.

Reality sucks.

I guess not enough “political donations” made…..

“……freely move about the neighgorhood without worrying about stepping of the curb ….”

So, no curbs, eh???