Friday Free For All – Mar. 14th, 2014
Friday, March 14, 2014 @ 12:00 AM
We are heading into the middle of March, and that means March break starts when classes finish today for public school students under the School District 57 umbrella. School District 57 classes will resume on Monday March 31st.
We are less than a week away from the official start of Spring.
And of course, we are at the end of a regular work week, and that can only mean one thing… It's time for the FRIDAY FREE FOR ALL.
It is your time to speak up about the issues which matter to you.
You pick the topic, but, as always, obey the three simple rules:
Keep it clean
Keep it legal
No Bullying
Comments
Let’s have a good and safe weekend everyone.
Those who are driving off on a spring break, don’t be in too much of a hurry, okay?
metalman.
Is there a really good reason for having the number of comments in a thread capped? Two of the more recent bctf/government articles had relatively good discussions that came to an end due to no more posts being allowed.
Hart Guy deserves a response to his last post in the most recent BCTF/gov article and I was unable to give him one. If you’re reading this, I can’t post either sides full positions because both sides have agreed to not bargain through the media. The only information out there is what gets leaked.
Perhaps some of you might remember October of last year, about 5 months ago, when Harper boycotted the 2013 Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in Sri Lanka. In his official letter he stated the following reasons for his / Canadaâs boycott;
âCanada noted with concern the impeachment of the Sri Lankan Chief Justice earlier this year, and we remain disturbed by ongoing reports of intimidation and incarceration of political leaders and journalists, harassment of minorities, reported disappearances, and allegations of extra judicial killings.
âCanada believes that if the Commonwealth is to remain relevant it must stand in defence of the basic principles of freedom, democracy, and respect for human dignity, which are the very foundation upon which the Commonwealth was built.
âIt is clear that the Sri Lankan government has failed to uphold the Commonwealthâs core values, which are cherished by Canadians.â
What a hypocrite! This coming from a PM that knows about the gang rapes, torture and murders of many local people in foreign countries who oppose a number of Canadian Mining company operations there. Perhaps itâs time we had a national discussion about the âcore valuesâ which are cherished by Canadians Mr. Harper!!!
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/10/07/stephen-harper-says-hell-boycott-commonwealth-summit-in-sri-lanka-citing-ongoing-human-rights-abuses/
Ties between Pierre Karl Peladeau , the new star PQ candidate and Steven Harper are now coming out. The original article from La Presse is in french, the following is a translation from Google translate.
“Before hiring the former director of communications for Prime Minister , Kory Teneycke to support it in its plans to launch the network Sun News Network, in 2010, Mr. Peladeau and his ex-wife , Julie Snyder, were received 24 Sussex Drive, in September 2009, to share a meal with Stephen Harper and his wife Laureen , La Presse has learned from several sources.
24 Sussex Drive is the official residence of the Prime Minister , and few are those who get such an invitation torque Harper.
Sources said that this event was organized at the behest of Kory Teneycke , who was communications director for Mr. Harper from July 2008 to July 2009 . When Mr. Peladeau and Mrs. Snyder were received by Mr. Harper at his official residence , Teneycke had to get a three-month contract Quebecor Media to provide “strategic communication advice ” for the creation of Sun News Network , a new English system of continuous news. Later, in June 2010, Teneycke was appointed Vice President, Development at Quebecor Media . He is now vice president of Sun News Network.
It turns out that Canadian taxpayers, through the largesse of the Harper government, has funded Quebecor to the tune of $500 million. This has helped spread the virulent Sun News newspapers and television medium anti Quebec message throughout Western Canada.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/cbc-lashes-out-at-quebecors-500-million-in-public-subsidies/article558980/#dashboard/follows/
“When Peladeau announced plans in 2010 for Sun News Network, some labelled it âFox News Northâ and concerns were raised about whether it would merely be a mouthpiece for the governing Tories. The suspicions were fuelled by the fact that it was headed by Kory Teneyke, a former director of communications to Harper.”
from this article
http://www.canada.com/entertainment/Pierre+Karl+Peladeau+ever+politically+conservative/9601964/story.html
It turns out the Stephen Harper and Peladeau are both sympathetic to the dissolution of Canadian federalism. Here is a link to the famous Alberta Firewall letter signed by Stephen Harper 13 years ago.
http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes2004/leadersparties/leaders/pdf/firewall.pdf
In it Harper argues for gutting the CPP, the Canadian Health care system, the RCMP,Federal income tax,and transfer payments.
Is Stephen Harper a closet separatist? Here is something he stated back in 1994
“Whether Canada ends up as oÂne national government or two national governments or several national governments, or some other kind of arrangement is, quite frankly, secondary in my opinion⦠And whether Canada ends up with oÂne national government or two governments or ten governments, the Canadian people will require less government no matter what the constitutional status or arrangement of any future country may be.”
Speech to the Colin Brown Memorial Dinner, National Citizens Coalition, 1994
Is Stephen Harper a closet separatist? Here is something he said back in 2000
“If Ottawa giveth, then Ottawa can taketh away⦠This is oÂne more reason why Westerners, but Albertans in particular, need to think hard about their future in this country. After sober reflection, Albertans should decide that it is time to seek a new relationship with Canada. â¦Having hit a wall, the next logical step is not to bang our heads against it. It is to take the bricks and begin building another home â a stronger and much more autonomous Alberta. It is time to look at Quebec and to learn. What Albertans should take from this example is to become âmaitres chez nous.”
National Post, December 8, 2000
Where does all the money for cancer research and helping people with cancer go .We have been raising funds for years and there seems to be no results. Like others , I have family and friends that have passed or are dealing with this terrible sickness. There are organizations by the dozens holding events and collecting money . The terry fox run started in the 70’s .Seems we have the technology to invent anything or do anything other than finding the cure. I believe “frustrating” is one the word’s I’m looking for.
We know that Harper has no interest in preserving any of Canada’s traditional values. So why do we vote in clowns to “represent us” in Ottawa when they slavishly vote as Harper dictates while ignoring the concerns of our ridings?
Well Askum, consider for a minute jut how many people would be instantly out of a job tomorrow, if you suddenly showed up on their doorstep with a pill that could simply and quickly cure all cancers !!
How many doctors, nurses, hospitals, long term care facilities, clinics, research facilities, labs, etc, etc, would suddenly have to look elsewhere for employment practically overnight?
We couldn’t have that now could we. A simple cure for cancer could literally bring the economy to its knees in no time.
Askum: The Cancer Society spends more money on fundraising than it does on research. So maybe it should be renamed the Cancer Fundraising society. There have been several methods demonstrated to eliminate different types of cancer but none of them have been given much traction. Who is behind not running with these technologies? Well your guess is as good as mine. Experimenting with different radio frequencies has produced wonderful results, not only with cancer but with many other diseases. It has largely been quashed. Palomino is right. A lot of people would be out of work but their talents could be used for so many other useful things instead.
Its just like the oil companies buying out or quashing anything that would reduce the need for petroleum products. It happens. I think these strategies are very short sighted. Just think about all the lives that could be saved if wars weren’t fought over oil?
Makes you wonder why we don’t hear of very rich and powerful people dying of cancer, doesn’t it? I guess they can buy the cure.
What did Steve Jobs die from? Patrick swayze? I’m sure a large list of wealthy folks have been taken by cancer. I do however believe Big Pharma has no interest in a cure. I wonder how the U of Alberta is doing with their research for a cure? They had some promising research, but couldn’t get funding. Hmmmmm
Simon Fraser University professors have detected Fukushima radiation now more than a hundred kilometers inland at the Harrison River (the water source for the Lower Mainland). So this will only bio accumulate and cancer rates in BC won’t be going down anytime soon.
Therefore one might ask then why Harper has cut back all federal involvement in radiation detection on the west coast? Why at this important time would he make the cut backs when we need the information the most? Knowing what the base lines are, and how this stuff is spreading is vital to our potential survival and is a fiduciary duty we have to future generations?
Maybe if we are all dead from cancer there will be no opposition to Alberta oil getting to the coast?
In Japan it is even worse where the Abe government has passed a law that makes it illegal to even report on the Fukushima radiation anymore. Heads firmly in the sand.
Quebec, Most of the first nation people of the north does not want to leave Canada, because, the Quebecois do not consider the first nations as humans.
Over half of the people in Montreal does not want to leave Canada. Even though Hull is in Quebec, they know that it is Ottawa that makes them viable.
So if they go for a vote, than they are likely going to loose any way.
If the French Canadian really think that they need to separate. We will give you Quebec city, plus 100 miles of the St Lawrence seaway, 25% of the river width.
We will also give you a 75 mile radius from the city hall of Quebec. They will also have to take along there portion of the national debt. So all the separatist can live on this piece of land. This is the new country of Quebec. No more compensation from the rest of Canada.
These organisations do not want to find a cure, they would be out of business if a cure was found.
I would like to swing the thinking around to our City Politics.
We are now only a short eight months away from a civic election that could result in four year terms without a meaningful recall process.
Vote we must! But, who deserves our trust? Scary Shari is very much in the picture, folks! So are her henchmen.
Surely, in this city of 70,000+ there are some candidates. Someone with a clear vision and with the ability to articulate that vision for all to see and consider. Someone willing to communicate with us citizens – and not only before the election. Sorry, Hall does not fit but he should! There must be others – look around, time is our enemy. Where is Don Z. in all of this? Is he a savior?
We also need seven replacement councilors, I’ll want to keep Brian.
We have a real challenge before us so let us get on with looking for viable solutions that do not impair our will and desire for a vibrant community.
‘Moving out’ is not a solution – as suggested by our Mayor.
I was reading an article this week that states that natural gas in Europe is priced not based on market rates, but rather linked to the price of oil at about a $100 a barrel equivalent. In Asia the price is linked at about a $70 a barrel equivalent and in North America it is delinked and sells for about $35 a barrel equivalence.
There is big talk with the Ukraine crisis that North America will take on a greater role supplying Europe with their natural gas. Therefore we can expect the going rate in North America to become the going rate in Europe sometime soon. That would be three times what we now pay for natural gas. The $1000 a month gas bills are not to many more years ahead coming soon.
In PG over the last twenty years all that has been built for housing is the mansion style half million dollar homes and very little for efficient multi unit developments. PG’s population has stagnated as a result of no quality rental units and low cost condo’s for new arrivals. In the future of high energy costs it will be essential for Northern communities like PG to have access to affordable housing energy wise.
I think PG has some great locations that could be developed for highrise apartment and condo units. I think for PG to grow this will have to become a priority for future city councils especially in the era of fly out camp workers.
For convenience to amenities great locations to develop could include the area behind Pine Center, or across the highway behind the YMCA with the ground floor level with highway 97 and the lower areas used for understreet level parking. The area behind the YMCA has potential for a very high density highrise neighborhood location. Also along 5th Avenue between Ospika and Tabor has big potential as well for highrise condo’s with underground parking in the natural dips in the ground.
If one was looking to have an enhanced iconic skyline I think highrise condo’s along the river could be built at Edgewood pit area with 5 minute access to the downtown, or along the Cranbrook Hill crest south of the University.
For the most visible potential iconic highrise in PG I think a great location would be on the spot just above Walmart where the land is for sale that is currently occupied by the run down motel… being that it is one of the highest most visible hillside locations in the city visible from nearly the entire bowl area and beyond the airport. A twenty story condo there would be like a beacon throughout the city.
IMO with rising energy cost, and the realities of fly in workers in the north, and the need for PG to build more infill to limit the spread and cost of our infrastructure… it seems to me that our housing needs in the city should be focused more on highrise multiunit developments and less on the spread of mega home neighborhoods on the fringes at great infrastructure costs (though cheep land for developers).
In PG we haven’t had any highrise developments in 40-years… the dozen or so 10-12 story buildings are all older than 40-years with no new developments since. In other cities that are growing they have new units coming online every other year and this accommodates new growth with new arrivals. Anybody that considers moving to PG now has very little options for good condo units and so unless they want to buy a high maintenance house they are likely to find another city.
IMO PG needs a better housing stock in the condo market.
Time Will Tell
Eight inch ice ruts on my street is proof the snow removal this year was an epic failure! Getting stuck going in and out of ones driveway in the middle of March is wrong!
Is Ms. Green even running? If she is anyone should be able to run against her and win! At this point in civic politics Eugene F. should get more votes than Ms. Green.
Herbster, does any ‘association’ exist primarily to better serve the people associating, or for them to serve it? And if it doesn’t better serve those associating, but rather they’re forced to serve it instead, should they continue forever in that type of association?
We ‘associate’ with one another in a great many ways, and one of the primary reasons for our doing so is because there is an “unearned increment” available to us through our associating.
If you set two equally qualified carpenters to work to build two identical houses on equally level lots next to one another, will they get the job done faster and easier if each works on one house at a time individually, or if they both work together building one house first and then the other?
Simple observation indicates it will be the latter. In fact, the second identical house, with them both working together as they did on the first, will invariably go up faster than the first one did. This is because two working together could do more in a given period of time than each one working separately could. Their association, freely entered into, serves THEM. As INDIVIDUALS.
Now relate that to Federalism. The provinces of Canada entered into a Confederation because they believed there was an “unearned increment in association”. That they could do things better, more efficiently, together, to better serve their citizens as individuals, through that association.
And no doubt they can, IF that’s what actually happens. But suppose it doesn’t? Suppose we liken it to another type of association formed ostensibly for similar purposes. A trade Union, say.
Now if you follow the direction trade Unions have taken, in fact even listen to the rhetoric of their various leaders in what they infer to the membership, and have done for years, what is more important ~ that the Union only exists to serve its members as individuals FIRST, or the members exist as individuals to serve the Union FIRST, (and those at its top) whether they think they’re well served by it or not? And if they think they’re not, can they leave the association freely, without any other penalty other than loss of association?
For that last sentence is the essence of ‘democracy’ ~ the ability of each of us, as individuals, to “choose or refuse one thing at a time”. So who’s the real ‘dictator’ here, Herbster. A PM who recognises that freedom to associate, or disassociate, if there are more decrements in that association than benefits, is a cornerstone of any workable democracy, or the other guys who have a “blood and iron” vision of a centralised Canada with a top down, we know best type government reminiscent of Bismarck’s Germany, and its later manifestations of “eine volk, eine reich, eine fuhrer?”
Socredible, your argument is laughable. Canada has two official languages, and recognizes three founding nations, english, french and native. To say that Canada as we know it can become “eine volk, eine reich” is frankly ludicrous.
If you want to talk about association, then Harper associates with people like:
-Duffy
-Wallin
-Brazeau
-Peladeau
Can you judge a man by the company he keeps? I think yes!
When Stephen Harper heard that the Herbster and People #1 were critizing him again (whats new). He immediately went into **panic mode** had a second cup of coffee, finished reading the newspaper, and then went to work.
We should form a country consisting of BC, The Yukon, Alaska, Washington State, Oregon and California. Talk about a tourism powerhouse with lots of resources to boot. We would be one of the most influential and rich countries in the world. Then we can charge Alberta through the nose to cross our lands if they want their oil moved to the rest of the world.
Askum, the University of Alberta believes that it has a generic drug that can effectively fight cancer. Article is from 2010 and I could not find any updates. Undoubtedly, if this is truly effective the research will be shelved. There are no profits in find cure’s, only in giving treatment.
http://news.ualberta.ca/newsarticles/2010/05/genericdrugmaybepotentialtreatmentfordeadlybraincanceruofamedicalstudy
Palopu, would that work include making sure some of Canadas’ wheat got shipped after he dismantled the CWB?
Herbster. I notice that you cherry pick segments of information to bolster your arguments, and leave the rest.
The reference to Canada’s wheat is a prime example. Firstly we know that one of the reasons we have trouble shipping this product is because there was a **bumper crop** last year.
Secondly the extremely cold winter has contributed to a shortage of rail cars to move not only wheat, but lumber, pulp and paper, etc all across Canada. Prince George at the moment is experiencing a critical shortage of rail cars, that is having a serious impact on shipping and storage costs.
The dismantling of the Canadian Wheat Board has no effect on rail car supply, or transportation issue’s impacted by an extreme winter.
So, continue to write drivel without supporting facts, or do some research and make your life a little more interesting.
Palopu, who do you think would have more leverage with the railways, the CWB or small individual grain buyers? Give your head a shake!
As it is, the government has threatened the railways with fines, to get them to move the wheat, so I guess even Harper and the Cons dont buy your bumper crop/cold winter argument!
Going a little more local, I see that the Core Services Review has become history and turned into another report that will gather dust on a shelf.
Neil Godbout nailed it in his editorial in the Citizen yesterday. Having a Core Services Review is one thing, but having the fortitude and leadership to implement the recommended changes is another.
I think council was hoping that the Core Services Review would just propose changes that wouldn’t affect anybody too much. Oh well, $350K down the drain to maintain the status quo.
I figure the sale of the WHL Cougars will be announced within a week.
Herbster, The problem with moving rail cars, and car shortages in the winter months, especially during extreme weather conditions is an ongoing problem for railways and has been for over 100 years.
I’ll try to make it simple for you. Cold weather causes trains to lose their air brake pressure. As the pressure goes down, the size of the trains have to be reduced. In extreme cold weather most trains are reduced by 25 to 50 percent, which means that these cars have to be left behind. This issue is compounded on thousands of trains in a short period of time, resulting in a major congestion of rail yards, and the inability of railways to function properly.
That is exactly what is happening at this moment all across Canada, and is come parts of the USA.
If you knew anything about transportation, or rail car shortages, you would know that every warehouse in BC if full of pulp and paper, all mill yards are stacking lumber for storage.
If you drive by the old Rustads Mill in the BCR you would see lumber being stored .
So, this has nothing to do with the CWB, except in your mind.
Palopu, if Steven Harper and the Conservatives believed your version of events to be true, then they would not be threatening the railways with daily fines for not transporting enough wheat.
Quote from the shining phony,”THE BUDGET WILL BALANCE ITSELF”
“The Cancer Society spends more money on fundraising than it does on research”
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Last year, the Canadian Cancer Society spent over $77 million dollars on programs they administer, over $45 million dollars on research and roughly $10 million dollars on advocacy.
They spent roughly $90 million dollars on fundraising activities in order to bring in the over $200 million dollars they received in fundraising revenue. Without that $90 million, there would be no $200 million and there would be no program, research or advocacy funding. The money they use to fund cancer related programs does not grow on trees, they have to go out there and get it.
As for the folks who believe that cancer should have been cured or that such a cure would be held back, I think you are putting a little too much extra into your coffee this morning. The simple fact of the matter is that this stuff is hard and there isn’t always a solution. Furthermore, if you think that techniques for treating cancer or even survival rates haven’t improved significantly over the years, you are living under a rock.
Have you thought about how many people would have to be involved in a conspiracy to not release a cure for cancer? Heck, do you even realize we are talking about hundreds of different diseases all impacting different people in different environments in different ways?
You guys can’t even interpret a pretty basic set of financial statements and you are are somehow an expert on the science of medicine?
Herb, the dismanteling of the CWB was long overdue. I was a “captive” member forced to sell to them under penalty of the law. There where so many things wrong with that scenerio I don’t know where to start. Since you are clearly a union drone, the idea of surpressing individual rights is part of your DNA. Thankfully Harper dosn’t march to your outdated thinking.
Threatening to fine the Railways gives the impression that the Government is doing something about the problem, and would to some extent help alleviate the problem for wheat.
However if you use more manpower, and diesel power to move wheat in these conditions, then other products like pulp, paper, coal, potash, sulphur, etc; would be delayed. So basically you just shifted the problem to other commodities.
With the warm weather, things should be getting back to normal within a month or so.
NMG: “Have you thought about how many people would have to be involved in a conspiracy to not release a cure for cancer? Heck, do you even realize we are talking about hundreds of different diseases all impacting different people in different environments in different ways?”
Thanks for posting this NMG. The cancer conspiracy theorists are out in force today.
Dow 7500, congratulations, you are now free to sell your wheat at half of what it was worth last fall. I guess taking the financial hit is worth it so you can trumpet your individual rights, so, Congratulations!!
“we need a city that welcomes people to stay instead of telling them to leave”
Hows that sound for an election sign? Feel free to use that, I dont have time to run this year
Happy Friday
Anyone else getting irritated with the increasing number of businesses picking a pet charity and then asking you for a donation at the check-out for the worthy cause you may or not agree with. And if you say no, they give you that – what, are you cheap look.
So, Save-on, I don’t donate to Children’s Hospital because I pay taxes and the government should build hospitals.
No Canadian tire, I don’t think I need to donate so a kid can go play sports, I managed to play outside with my friends using pretty rudimentary stuff like balls, sticks, cans whatever.
No Liquor Store – I don’t care about dry grad. The kids who are going to drink will go to dry grad, and then go drink at the other party.
No Costco – I don’t want your American Express Card – well, that’s a different pet peeve.
I agree with previous poster,-some 8 short months, and we get to vote for new city councillors & mayor. Please, we need to remember the last few years and the grief we have gone through as taxpayers of the city. Moving is not an option for many of us. So, we need more, and louder voices; time to start NOW!
Smooth, I appreciate your comment and response at 12:25 a.m. this morning.
I agree with you when you ask if there is a really good reason for having the number of comments in a thread capped? I agree with you that relatively good discussions regarding the bctf/government had come to an end due to no more posts being allowed.
I believe that my last post in that thread asked reasonable and rational questions in a non-confrontational manner and although you were unable to answer as the thread was closed, I do appreciate your response this morning.
Unfortunately, the only response that I received wasn’t from you and it didn’t provide a non-confrontation, reasonable and rational answer to my many questions.
Smooth, thanks again for your reply!
ski: “Anyone else getting irritated with the increasing number of businesses picking a pet charity and then asking you for a donation at the check-out for the worthy cause you may or not agree with. And if you say no, they give you that – what, are you cheap look.”
While I agree that all of the ‘asks’ after you pay something nowadays are an annoyance, a simple ‘no thanks’ is all you need to say. As far as determining what kinds of ‘looks’ the cashiers give you, I can’t say I’ve paid much attention. I can’t imagine why a cashier would care whether you gave or not.
The âno cure for Cancer argument because it would kill the research industryâ is a typical point of view of those who meet the criteria I set for being functionally illiterate.
In this case, you have little understanding of at least the disease called Cancer, the medical profession, the research profession, the pharmaceutical industry, the control agencies which look after our safety, such as the FDA in the USA and their equivalent in the rest of the world.
I can understand the frustration when it comes to having a family member die of Cancer or close friends, or even the neighbor down the street. Why can I understand it? Because, like many out there, I too have been there. I think very few people over the age of 30 or so, just to pick a number out of the air, have never been in such a situation.
The current movie, Dallas Buyers Club, is a great biographical dram film about a real person who was given a month to live when he found out he had AIDS. That was in 1985. He eventually died of AIDS in 1992.
The story is about a fellow who helped himself and many others to get access to drugs and other tools to fight the symptoms as well as the disease, pitting him against the medical profession and the FDA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_Buyers_Club
My son works in medical research which has included cancer, congenital heart defects, and Alzheimers. He is a biochemist who works at the molecular cell level associated with RNA, the human genome. In his mid 30âs, he gets paid in the $40,000/year range for all his education and experience. Comparatively speaking, Canada does squat in research compared to other countries. An industry which is completely underfunded by the feds. It feeds off a cheap labour force that loves the work.
There is no conspiracy. There is only a lack of understanding of the benefits to the countryâs economy and the people of Canada and the world who continue to suffer from the various disorders we still have to live with as humans.
My theory is that a really good debt collection agency could find that airplane. Besides, if you think nobody cares you’re alive, well then just miss a few car payments.
If only one of those 239 people can get to a phone or at least start a fire, case closed. IMO.
One problem with the BCTF negotiations is that I have been told and I believe that it is correct, that retired teachers still have both a voice and a VOTE at bargaining conferences. If this is correct as I believe, that would certainly explain why there has been no advancement in the bargaining strategy over the years from the basic “we want more”. The government should offer the teachers a realistic percentage increase and then allow the teachers to decide whether to put that money into their own pockets or hire more teachers to reduce the class sizes. I would venture my opinion that there would be no new hires. When retired teachers, who get a decent pension, have the ability to be put at the top of the sub list, there is a serious problem with the system. Tell me again, “its all about the students”. Horse hooey.
Socredible:”…we know best type government reminiscent of Bismarck’s Germany, and its later manifestations of “eine (sic) volk, eine (sic) reich, eine (sic) fuhrer?”
Or Stalin’s kind and gentle democracy.
Too many words today….
who da thunk
There are no bargaining conferences for the BCTF. Therefore, retired teachers have neither a voice nor a vote. While ther is an AGM, retired teachers get to vote ONLY on matters concerning pensions, and nothing else. As well, in our local, retired teachers may join the sub list, but do not go “to the top” of it.
Smooth, the number of comments is not capped, it is the time allotted for commenting that is.
weaksauce, I think they are going for a novella today.
Good one Harbinger. lol
NMG wrote “Without that $90 million, there would be no $200 million and there would be no program, research or advocacy funding”
So you’re trying to convince us that the Canadian Cancer Society needs 45% of revenue just to get more revenue? Are freakin’ kidding me?
The Terry Fox Foundation only uses 16.9% of its revenue (2013 statement of operations) for fundraising and administration. The rest completely goes to research. Which btw, the CCS received $5.2 million from the Terry Fox Foundation in 2013.
The Canadian Cancer Society needs a serious overhaul of how the money is spent.
herbster and eagleone, sorry offense but you can disagree with other opinions as others can disagree with yours. Noone is ‘wrong’ and you are not ‘right’, it is just an opinion. I started to read but skipped your opinions both due to their length, again sorry I do not have an opinion on your opinion but feel free to make your opinion on that known.
oops, ‘sorry no offense’
I think spring is here finally. Hopefully no more late winter cold snaps.
Thanks for the info flash, it’s always nice to learn something new.
So lets see some ducks come to grief in oil sands settling ponds and all the greenies are up in arms, million dollar fines and all that. When a mine wants to use a nondescript lake for its tailings greenies and natives are up in arms again.
But when nature protecting natives want to develop wind farms on land or off shore no consideration is given to bird kills or disruption of the ecology and greenies are quiet.
Wouldn’t be about the money now would it? What a bunch of hypocrites.
How come there is no information, none that I can find anyhow, on the generation output of Bear Mountain wind park or bird kill.
Bear Mountain Wind Park, sounds like a place to take the family for a vacation.
Hey I got a great idea for community spirit. How about all you dog owners get out there and pick up the dog sh-t out there being exposed in the melting snow.
“So you’re trying to convince us that the Canadian Cancer Society needs 45% of revenue just to get more revenue? Are freakin’ kidding me?”
No, I’m pointing out that if you want to raise $200 million dollars a year, there is a cost to that. There is also NOT a linear relationship between money spent on fundraising vs. money received via donations.
You can’t look at a ratio for the TFF and say it should be the same for the CCS, it doesn’t work that way. The two organizations are much different, not only in size but scope.
It would be like saying that the advertising budget as a percentage of sales for “Pylot Project’s Hamburger Shack” should be the same as Burger King.
If you don’t agree with how the CCS distributes money, then don’t donate. Simple I would think.
Posted by: seamutt on March 14 2014 2:07 PM
Hey I got a great idea for community spirit. How about all you dog owners get out there and pick up the dog sh-t out there being exposed in the melting snow.
I could not agree with you more seamutt!! Why do people feel they are exempt from picking up after ‘THEIR’ dog? Most likely they stood right there while the dog did it’s business. But noooooo, instead of picking it up, they just pretend like it wasn’t their dog.
I think we should all walk around with spray-paint cans, and each time we see a ‘pile’, we spray it. It wouldn’t take long to see nothing but paint !!
Pick it up !!! Before you leave home take a baggie with you! Pick it up. And for heaven’s sake once you’ve picked it up, don’t just leave the baggie laying there in the ‘pile’s place. At least waste eventually composts. Plastic bags do not!
The people that don’t pick up after their dogs are most likely the same people that think nothing of just throwing their empty coffee cups, cigarette packs and hamburger wrappers, etc. out the window. Not sure who you’re expecting to pick that up ?? Grow up people, we all live here. Take some pride in where we live and play !
The teachers contract should be redone from the ground up. Their contract now is nothing short of unbelievable. If I could do it all again, I’d be a teacher.
It’s an annual rite of spring in PG… Avoiding the dog crap on the sidewalks.
Posted by: JohnnyBelt on March 14 2014 9:07 AM
Going a little more local, I see that the Core Services Review has become history and turned into another report that will gather dust on a shelf.
Neil Godbout nailed it in his editorial in the Citizen yesterday. Having a Core Services Review is one thing, but having the fortitude and leadership to implement the recommended changes is another.
I think council was hoping that the Core Services Review would just propose changes that wouldn’t affect anybody too much. Oh well, $350K down the drain to maintain the status quo.
Agree with you there JohnnyBelt; but don’t think for one minute that it ONLY cost the tax payers $350K. That was just the cost to pay the company to do the research and report. When you consider the amount of time that went into staff meetings, public meetings, the food/coffee services that were provided to each of these public or staff sessions. Then of course they get a new City Manager and she re-reads the entire report and brings back onto the table issues that were already dealt with or dumped. Again, spending more money!!
My guestimate for the cost of this core review would be well over $1M. I know they held several public meetings, and they held several staff meetings that included the entire working employees at the city. 500+ employees all taking time away from their ‘work’ to attend these meetings and hear the brain washing that was being told. And then he number of public meetings doing the exact same thing. Paying for the ‘rental’ of the room to hold these meetings…. it goes on and on.
Well over $1M easily !! And I agree with you, its all money down the drain. Oh wait, they’ll probably charge us tax payers for money that goes down the city drain.
I wonder why it is that the Cancer Society is always talking about a “Cure”. when will they start looking at what the cause of all our cancer is.
And then there is the big pharmaceutical industry That is looking after our health. which is just wonderful!
I wonder why it is that some of there medication that they develop are always change when the patents on the medication runs out? I guess just being illiterate I would not be able come a conclusion.
Cheers
Agreed Hello… whether is was $350K or $1 Million, or somewhere in between, don’t do a CSR if you are going to reject all of the recommendations. There’s a lesson in there somewhere.
Regarding the local elections, I see two problems with them being in November:
sorry, cat stepped on the keyboard
The two problems:
1. the weather can be horrible
2. But the main problem is that the newly elected are pushed right into the budget and they don’t have time to do research so they have to rely on admin staff to tell them what to vote for.
“I wonder why it is that the Cancer Society is always talking about a “Cure”. when will they start looking at what the cause of all our cancer is”
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Huh???????
You can start reading anytime:
http://www.cancer.ca/en/cancer-information/cancer-101/what-is-a-risk-factor/?region=qc
Oh by the way, that link takes you to the Canadian Cancer Society webpage . . .
Living causes cancer. Doncha know? On the other hand do you suppose Russia will build another “Berlin type wall” across the east end of Ukraine north to south to keep the Russkies in and westerners out? Could happen.
Eagleone… I was told today they have what they call skip tracers. Especially student loan departments. I suppose.
You clearly don’t get the WCB issue herbster, I’m shocked. Your world views are ushually spot on. However, which world is anyones guess. I’m guessing leftardia.
I think Neil’s point was our Core review was almost identical to Toronto’s Core Review by the same company. Was it more of a case of cookie cutter syndrome or did they actually look at places where savings could be attained? And his other point was if so why did we not just read their review and save ourselves 350k plus staff time?
I had occasion to be at the emergency ward of our local hospital last Sunday nite. I was very impressed by the professionalism displayed by three emergency services: the emergency staff being doctors and nurses, ambulance personnel, and RCMP members.
From 6:30 PM til 2:30 in the morning, these folks handled an extremely busy nite, with sick children, suicidal drunk, mentally disordered lady, stab wounds from what the victim called a home invasion, swearing and assaulting staff, and they all kept their cool. Amazing teamwork and cohesiveness in their ability to deal with everyone in a calm professional manner. My thanks to the emergency services personnel, a very impressive display by all.
Instead of Grey’s Anatomy, maybe Shaw will finance our own version of PG,s Anatomy. Minus “hot” relationships, of course.
ski50 I was buying hundreds of dollars of booze and they wanted me to support dry grad! I wanted to support wet grad but they didn’t have that option.
Comment Posted by: dow7500 on March 14 2014 5:54 PM
You clearly don’t get the WCB issue herbster, I’m shocked. Your world views are ushually spot on. However, which world is anyones guess. I’m guessing leftardia.
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Drinking again Dick? Wasn’t it the CWB not the WCB that he was talking about at 3 am?
I Stand corrected dragon. Should be CWB. Leftardians are alert tonite.
Down on the coast a female bus driver gets beaten by three women. These three women between them have been before the law almost a thousand times. They are released on a promise to reappear. Almost a thousand times, just what the hell is wrong with the left-tard judges? These ladies know the law system is a sad joke and use it to their advantage. Judges hope you sleep well at night with your bloated unearned pay.
Sad sad system.
Slinky, not sure how you got offended. My comments were not directed as an opinion on any one else’s opinion. Maybe try and read the comment before jumping to conclusions about the intent of the opinion.
seamutt, What a pathetic example of our legal system.
The News reports that “Two women and a teenage girl have been charged after allegedly beating up a bus driver who confronted them about drinking alcohol on public transit.”
Allegedly? Allegedly?? Tell that to the Bus Driver!
You’re right! Our system is SAD!!
So turns out now my opinion yesterday morning on the AAC thread on the fate of flight MH370 is now darn near official story.
blog/view/31406/1/aac+reduction+%96+who+will+come+out+on+top%3f?
The only part they got wrong so far is they still blame the pilots, and they haven’t yet looked to Burma to find the plane. Other than that it is only a matter of time before they find out the reason why the plane went to 45,000 feet as soon as the transponders were disabled is because the higher one goes the quicker they can kill all the occupants of the plane by decompressing the cabin. They were probably all dead within 30-seconds at that height, and then no danger of a ‘let’s roll’ moment where someone tries to retake the plane and establish outside communication…. thereby blowing the whistle on the nature of the high jacking via remote control.
The plane was definitely high jacked, but not by the pilots or anyone on the plane. It was a remote control operation and flown to a place in Burma. Immediately after going to 45,000 feet to snuff out any potential problems they dove below radar and the rest is as I opined yesterday.
When the full story comes out then the world will have no other choice but to re-question the official 9/11 story and it will blow it all wide open. The authors of this plan will surely try to dump the plane before they get caught with it, so top priority now should be to have a radar envelope around Burma and then tighten the noose.
IMHO
PS it could mean the end of the Israeli state when all is said and done.
Anyone notice the new police station has a sidewalk that zig-zags to the main entrance and is on a significant slope. Obviously not planned for a winter city. Imagine trying to clear the snow on that with all the extra time needed… and surely a slip hazard. My guess is the architect is from the Lower Mainland and planned it for one of their winters?
So grateful to be neither lefttarded nor righttarded! Same as it ever was.
Russia planning for the Canadian sanctions.
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/723486
As well as their air patrols…
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_14/Four-Russian-strategic-bombers-in-air-patrol-over-Arctic-Ocean-7034/
CANADIAN CANCER SOCIETY BRITISH COLUMBIA AND YUKON DIVISION
For the year 2012
Total revenue: $35,266,842
Total expenses: $33,080,531
Fundraising expense: $11,888,873 (36%)
Compensation
1 @ $300,000 – $349,999
3 @ $200,000 – $249,999
6 @ $120,000 – $159,999
Full time employees â 151
Part-time employees – 197
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/haip/srch/t3010form22quickview-eng.action?r=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cra-arc.gc.ca%3A80%2Febci%2Fhaip%2Fsrch%2Fbasicsearchresult-eng.action%3Fk%3Dcanadian%2Bcancer%2Bsociety%26amp%3Bs%3Dregistered%26amp%3Bp%3D1%26amp%3Bb%3Dtrue&fpe=2013-01-31&b=118829803RR0002&n=CANADIAN CANCER SOCIETY BRITISH COLUMBIA AND YUKON DIVISION
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BRITISH COLUMBIA SOCIETY FOR THE PREVENTION OF CRUELTY TO ANIMALS
For the year 2012
Total revenue: $29,387,711
Total expenses: $26,389,306
Fundraising expenses: $2,957,842 (11%)
Compensation
1 @ $160,000 – $199,999
5 @ $120,000 – $159,999
4 @ $80,000 – $119,999
Full-time employees 276
Part-time employees 344
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/haip/srch/t3010form22quickview-eng.action?r=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cra-arc.gc.ca%3A80%2Febci%2Fhaip%2Fsrch%2Fadvancedsearchresult-eng.action%3Fn%3D%26amp%3Bb%3D%26amp%3Bq%3D%26amp%3Bs%3Dregistered%26amp%3Bd%3D%26amp%3Be%3D%2B%26amp%3Bc%3Dvancouver%26amp%3Bv%3DBC%26amp%3Bo%3D%26amp%3Bz%3D%26amp%3Bg%3D%2B%26amp%3Bt%3D%2B%26amp%3By%3D%2B%26amp%3Bp%3D3&fpe=2012-12-31&b=118819036RR0001&n=BRITISH COLUMBIA SOCIETY FOR THE PREVENTION OF CRUELTY TO ANIMALS
Comparing 2 charities ….
The BC Cancer Society as well as others across Canada has a relatively high cost of fundraising. In this comparison it appears that animals are an easier sell than cancer. All those little old ladies on the southern part of Vancouver Island. :-)
Royal Raymond Rife
What the Rife microscope can see is the bustling activity of living viruses as they change form to accommodate changes in environment, replicate rapidly in response to carcinogens, and transform normal cells into tumor cells.
http://humansarefree.com/2014/03/the-device-that-cured-cancer-destroyed.html#sthash.bk5iiKoV.dpuf
A cure for cancer. You be the judge.
There are many suspected causes of Cancer.
There is a relatively small group of people who are linked together from different parts of the world who are working on the theory that Cancer is caused by the failure of the immune system in the body to kill off cells that are proliferating when those cells are killed off by “healthy” people but not by some people who have lost part of that ability or never had it in the first place. The process is called apoptosis.
See the link for an explanation of necrosis as opposed to apoptosis.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/cellular-microscopic/apoptosis.htm
That work is done at the level of RNA.
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