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The Big Melt Brings On the Big Holes

Monday, March 17, 2014 @ 3:59 AM

Old patches and new potholes visible  along Tyner Boulevard. – photo 250News

Prince George, B.C. – It is that time of the year.

The snow and ice have been cleared away or melted from  most  city streets,   revealing a crop of  potholes.  Some are fresh new sites, others  are  repeat offenders, but all can cause  damage to your vehicle if  you hit them  hard and fast.

The freeze thaw cycle  that  rolled through the  City  this  winter  is expected to exacerbate the  annual  problem, as  the thaw would have allowed water to  seep into cracks in the pavement,  then  a freeze would  expand  the cracks and lift the asphalt.

The city will  have three shifts of three people working on  repairing the   potholes with either a cold or hot mix of asphalt.

As in the case with snow removal, the major routes are  done first with residential streets lower on the list of priorities.

If you  would like to report a pothole to the City,  click here.

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Coming down Ospika from Tyner is looking chewed up too and that pavement isn’t very old! The city finally got to clearing off the 8 inch ice ruts from my street. The only problem is the guy in the grader took an extra 1 inch of last years brand new seal coat with it. I was wondering how that layer of cold seal coat was going to handle the winter.

Fear not, all the roads leading to the Winter games venues will be fixed before winter…and probably kept prisinte and clear of snow ( until the games are over then look out)

Those are the best you could find?

NoWay, that is funny.

I guess seal coating doesn’t work if the ice stuck on the pebbles are stronger than the bond to the old pavement.

I don’t like that repair anyway.

Let’s face the fact that our winters have a lot more freeze thaw cycles than thirty years ago….. So you would think that the brains in the ivory tower would figure out that the design mix for the asphalt should be engineered for this. Duh, hey that’s a good idea.

HeSpoke: “Let’s face the fact that our winters have a lot more freeze thaw cycles than thirty years ago….. “

They do? Please site your source.

hespoke: the freeze/thaw cycles have varied a little over the years, but this year is anecdotally more similar to what I recall 30 years ago.

The reason that patch jobs and seal coating doesn’t seem as durable as it used to be because it is not.

They use methods these days that are cheaper(less durable), more environmentally friendly (more expensive and less durable), easier to apply (cheaper labour cost, less durable), use a modified application process (faster application with less mess and les durable).

North Nechako Road looks like Iraq. Holes everywhere. Finally got rid of the 3 inches of ice build up and ruts and now its potholes.

Hey city works, highways department, YRB, found a pothole patcher for ya. Can be used year round. I want a finders fee for the hard work of 30 seconds to find this.

http://www.therecord.com/news-story/2597901-kitchener-firm-s-patcher-puts-heat-on-potholes/

Seamutt, the City tested a pothole patching machine just a little while ago!

They pronounced it to be useless. Unfortunately the City tested one make that was not the kind which is extremely successful in other winter cities. So it will be the same old method, with the back of the shovel.

I spent more than thirty hours researching these machines quite a few years ago. The City knows about them. Some are very good, others not so much. The City is not going to give in to any outside suggestions, no matter how often they are repeated.

Heaven forbid they ever consider doing what others are doing very well already.

Want some more examples?

The following is a list of priorities for the City of Prince George with respect to addressing climate change effects. This is taken from: “Adapting to Climate Change in Prince George”; BCWWA Rain to Resource Workshop, October 28‐29, 2010,Dave Dyer, P. Eng., Chief Engineer, City of Prince George.

Note: Priority #3

Level of Priority
Impact
Vulnerabilities
Top Priorities
1 Forests
Increased forest fires and insect outbreaks
2 Flooding
Property damage with more frequent floods
High Priorities
3 Transportation infrastructure
More potholes with increased freeze thaw events
4 Severe weather / emergency response
Maintenance of transportation infrastructure during severe weather events
5 Water supply
Water shortages as a result of drought

People#1. Got a big poster of Al Gore over yer bed? No mention of global warming, peep. Hope you didn’t wait too long before you changed from global warming to climate change too. Climate has been changing since the Ice Age when there was a mile or more depth to the glacier that was over us a long time ago. Just adapting, paying taxes and listening to every crackpot with a theory and an agenda which involves power and money. Carry on, my good man.

My only priority right now is to live indoors and eat regularly. Full time job.

From the same “Adapting to Climate Change in Prince George; BCWWA Rain to Resources Workshop”:

“Temperature (in Prince George) has increased since 1918 Daily Max + 0.4oC; Daily Min + 2.1oC; Daily Mean +1.3oC”

Hmm… looks like part of “Global Warming” to me. But let me re-analyze this just to make sure; temperature in Prince George has increased, then there is global warming… hmmm… yup it makes sense they go together.

People#1.

Al Gore, David Suzuki, and the catholic church all got rich from “followers” like you. Oh well, I guess some people need a crutch to get by!!

You can believe what you want, but I wish you would quit trying to shove your beliefs down everyone else’s throat.

That’s what happens when you come out an ice age, things tend to warm up!

So we have 100 years of good data. However, the earth is much older than that.

Nobody is debating that climate change exists. That’s a myth perpetrated by the alarmists and the people who make good money propagating this sort of thing.

There must be a Conservative flat earth society conference somewhere, lots of them here today. By the way duffer, these are not my “beliefs”, global warming is a scientific fact!!! Big difference!

http://c1planetsavecom.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/files/2012/07/global-warming-deniers-climate-science.gif

People#1, the earth IS flat. When people leave here they never come back!!

I am amazed you didn’t know that.

JB:”Nobody is debating that climate change exists.”

Precisely! The REAL argument is about whether or not human activities are contributing to it!

People#1, you have an opinion and it is o.k. to express it, I think! Get used to being ridiculed! Some people get a kick out of that! Fact of life! In times past people were burned at the stake! Even Darwin was afraid for a long time to publish his evidence about evolution!

Road in front of Lakewood Elementary was good until the lake formed there a week ago and was allowed to sit and soak for a week and now the road is almost gone (and that is in a 30 zone).

The city really needs a better program to keep the gutters clean so when the thaw comes we don’t get the water on the road. Its the water on the road that destroys the road. An ounce of prevention is worth a ton of asphalt. Another example of poor road maintenance management in this city cost us more than is necessary. These standards would not be acceptable in any other city.

If the water is able to drain off the road then we don’t have to repave in the spring. It is as simple as that. Yet we just don’t get it here in PG. Ongman Road is another fine example of yearly repaving because the road is a lake three months of the year, but the water on the road issue never gets addressed.

I am happy with the company I keep:

“We should not allow a tiny minority of shoddy scientists and science and extreme ideologues to compete with scientific facts,” Kerry told the audience gathered at a U.S. Embassy-run American Center in a Jakarta shopping mall. “Nor should we allow any room for those who think that the costs associated with doing the right thing outweigh the benefits.”

“The science is unequivocal, and those who refuse to believe it are simply burying their heads in the sand,” Kerry said. “We don’t have time for a meeting anywhere of the Flat Earth Society,” ~ John Kerry; US Secretary of State

Unfortunately PG, global warming is not “my opinion” no more than smoking cigarettes causes lung cancer; both are scientific facts.

Don’t know much about Kerry do you. So miss guided.

So people you deny natural climate change?

Your argument is not with me, I simple agree with the science that proves global warming is real and it is largely caused by human activity. Here is partial list of some science based organizations that you deniers can engage in debate with:

These scientific organizations endorse the consensus position that “most of the global warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities”:

American Association for the Advancement of Science
American Astronomical Society
American Chemical Society
American Geophysical Union
American Institute of Physics
American Meteorological Society
American Physical Society
Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Australian Bureau of Meteorology and the CSIRO
British Antarctic Survey
Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Environmental Protection Agency
European Federation of Geologists
European Geosciences Union
European Physical Society
Federation of American Scientists
Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies
Geological Society of America
Geological Society of Australia
Geological Society of London
International Union for Quaternary Research (INQUA)
International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
National Center for Atmospheric Research
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
Royal Meteorological Society
Royal Society of the UK

The Academies of Science from 19 different countries all endorse the consensus. 13 countries have signed a joint statement endorsing the consensus position:

Academia Brasiliera de Ciencias (Brazil)
Royal Society of Canada
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Academie des Sciences (France)
Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina (Germany)
Indian National Science Academy
Accademia dei Lincei (Italy)
Science Council of Japan
Academia Mexicana de Ciencias (Mexico)
Russian Academy of Sciences
Academy of Science of South Africa
Royal Society (United Kingdom)
National Academy of Sciences (USA) (12 Mar 2009 news release)

A letter from 18 scientific organizations to US Congress states:

“Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver. These conclusions are based on multiple independent lines of evidence, and contrary assertions are inconsistent with an objective assessment of the vast body of peer-reviewed science.”

The consensus is also endorsed by a Joint statement by the Network of African Science Academies (NASAC), including the following bodies:

African Academy of Sciences
Cameroon Academy of Sciences
Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences
Kenya National Academy of Sciences
Madagascar’s National Academy of Arts, Letters and Sciences
Nigerian Academy of Sciences
l’Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
Uganda National Academy of Sciences
Academy of Science of South Africa
Tanzania Academy of Sciences
Zimbabwe Academy of Sciences
Zambia Academy of Sciences
Sudan Academy of Sciences
Other Academies of Sciences that endorse the consensus:

Australian Academy of Science
Royal Society of New Zealand
Polish Academy of Sciences

Isn’t it time you; “flat earth society”, “anthropogenic global warming deniers” stopped embarrassing yourselves?

You really have to update your biased cherry picked information.climate scientists are the used car salesmen of the science world.

Oh you must be referring to all the other branches of science seamut. Other branches of science like chemistry and mathematics, etc. all who have signed a letter supporting anthropogenic (human caused) global warming)?

http://www.aaas.org/sites/default/files/migrate/uploads/1021climate_letter1.pdf

Increased global warming is a scientifically observed phenomenon, as are sulphuric acid rain and mercury vapour emissions from burning of fossil fuels, especially coal.

There is no allowable lower limit for ingestion of mercury through air, water, soil or food for humans. Other toxic substances are emitted into the environment for which the human level of tolerance is 0.0000 ppm as well.

I leave the endless arguments about whether or not human industrial activity contributes to global warming by the combustion of fossil fuels to those who wish to change the minds of the already otherwise convinced.

In the meantime it would be wise to find other sources of energy lest we spoil our air, water, soil and food beyond the point of no return.

Ever here of Mann and climategate, read this http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/03/17/wow-even-msm-reporters-want-to-see-michael-manns-uva-emails-now/

Here are some real scientists. http://www.petitionproject.org/

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