RCMP Move In Day Now in May
Prince George, B.C. – The latest information on the move to the new RCMP building on Victoria Street, would have the RCMP in their new digs “in time for the May long weekend”.
That would put the actual move another two months down the road.
According to a release from the City of Prince George, the move will happen once contractors “finish cleaning up all remaining deficiencies.”
"A deficiency can mean anything from cleaning up paint chips, to balancing an air handling unit," says the City's Manager of Civic Facilities Leland Hanson. "The issue is that, in order to enter the building after it has been occupied, consultants and contractors must not only possess their own security clearance, but they must be accompanied by members of the RCMP at all times."
Basically, that means, everything must be done before the RCMP move in. To do otherwise would mean RCMP would have to escort contractors and keep an eye on them while the contractors did their work.
It is expected the actual move will take about a week to complete and will cost just under $35 thousand dollars.
Originally, the detachment was supposed to move into the new, $38.5 million dollar facility in October of last year. The in November, there was an “unveiling” of the facility as the RCMP Commissioner was in town for the Regimental Ball. At that time, it was estimated the detachment would move in by mid December.
Then the move-in timeline was estimated to be early Spring which would suggest perhaps late March or early April. Today, that move-in is now estimated to take place during the week of May 12th.
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I wonder what the problem is? Is it to do with LEED, and cleaning out the building???
OOOPs sorry, did not comprehend on first read.
Hey……..wait just a minute……Its St Patricks Day, not April Fools Day
A common trick in the construction industry is to low ball to get the bid, and then make the big dollars for add ons after the fact with alterations to the original plan, that always get billed at top dollar to the existing contractors. Very likely some of that going on here.
They are not done milking this city yet.
No surprises here. City facility, paid for by tax dollars, 7 months late and counting.
No one will take any responsibility for any delays or extra costs. Everything is just peaches and cream at the City.
What else is new???
Major buildings typically have deficiencies. There should be no add-ons at this stage.
Every day that the contractor is there longer than the originally anticipated substantial completion to work on the deficiency list, the more money the contractor loses. For contractors, the phrase “time is money” is very true.
As Palopu sort of hinted at, if this was a hotel opening up for business, or even an RCMP detachment having to move out of a facility because the property was sold to someone to whom not meeting the occupancy date means lost opportunity for business, there would typically be a penalty clause in the contract. Seems there is not one of those.
BTW, penalty clauses mean that there also needs to be a bonus clause. In other words, early completion provides the contractor with a bonus.
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I have not seen any work on the “living walls” yet. There are supposed to be plants growing from the concrete walls on the north and south sides of the building behind the glass enclosure. Sort of like a vertical greenhouse.
Vancouver airport parkade has an external living wall.
All at taxpayers’ expense …… and probably very experimental …. I suspect they will be escorting lots of external people into the building to maintain that wall properly as well as the air circulation systems which is supposed to humidify as well as “clean” the air …. :-(
http://www.yvr.ca/en/Blog/Posts/Fun_Fact_Friday_YVR_s_Green_Wall_is_made_up_of_28_249_living_plants.aspx
Imagine you bought a new house. You got a mortgage. The lawyer paid the builder. Then you went to move in and were told not for seven? more months and yes, you have to pay the interest and principal even though you can’t live in the house you paid for
interior examples
http://capitolgreenroofs.groupsite.com/galleries/photo/185391/dl/original/DSC_0512.JPG?1301325575
http://gsky.com/wp-content/uploads/gsky-living-green-wall-atlanta-process_800x600a.jpg
Exactly ski50!!!!!
The architect should not have let this happen. I forget whether this is a design build or not. I do not think it is.
What we do not know is how “tough” the City is on both the architect and engineers as well as the builder. There should be a large enough hold-back to give the contractor a kick-in-the-pants incentive to get the thing done. The Architects could also be jerking them around, as could Divisions E head office.
Too many possibilities to know what exactly is going on.
Along the same line of thinking, has anyone noticed that noting is moving at the Delta Hotel construction site? They seem to have stopped installing re-bar for the columns. There is an overflow parking for heavy equipment that is likely no longer needed. In addition, the crane is sitting idle.
Did the concrete cylinder tests not come up to standard? Is someone not getting paid progress claims? Are the subtrades from Kamloops working somewhere else?
Something is not right there. Does anyone posting here know?
Wonder how long till they run this one into the ground like they did the last one
Depends on the quality and stay of future prisoners. Some of them don’t respect property nor their temporary hosts. Make ’em take their shoes off first. That would be a start.
Not sure gus. I was at the library today and didn’t see a single person working. You’d think they would be moving as fast as they can so the hotel is ready for the games next February.
I doubt very much that they will be ready by February. They would have to take registrations some months ahead. If they are not sure that they can be open when guests arrive, they cannot commit to registrations. Who wants to come to a hotel where staff is just learning the ropes?
This is not an RCMP building. This is a hotel. Every day they cannot operate from the time they have a commitment costs them money. It is a business, not some government outfit.
The Sandman and the Sheraton hotels here were a different story where they were doing some of their own subcontracting and were simply working it at a pace acceptable to them.
I would think that when the Delta operators signed an agreement with the building owners, they put some deadlines into the contract.
A blurb written on site linked below reminds us that the current delay is not really all that huge when one looks at the whole project:
The Prince George city council
1. identified the existing facility for replacement in 1997, and
2. design for the new facility began in 2006.
3. The city had financing for the project in place by spring 2011.
4. Move in month might be June 2014
So, move in day looks like it is
1. 17 years from the time the project was identified and accepted.
2. 8 years from the time design began
3. 3 years from the time financing was in place.
Is it any wonder any work ever gets done in this City?
I would not worry about that PAC building. If it should ever go ahead, look for an opening by Canada’s bicentennial – 20667 …. in the meantime, let’s take advantage of every bickering opportunity we get …… ;-)
http://www.buildingandconstruction-canada.com/index.php/sections/community/380-maple-reinders-inc–prince-george-rcmp-facility
sorry …. went a bit overboard with those sixes ….
2067 …. :-)
I just realized, I have been in this city for 40 years …… the RCMP building has been under discussion for almost half that time …. the PAC building has been under discussion for all that time ……
When I look at projects led by the province, I see they have a far superior record of proposing projects and getting them built.
I thought that they were pouring concrete at the Delta last week. Don’t know for certain but it may be on hold while it cures.
Too bad, so sad that regular folks can’t hire RCMP to watch our own hired contractors. I’m sure those contractors would work exactly to the terms agreed.
As for that “living wall” can’t some altruistic do-gooders approach the RCMP and ask if they can plant food stuffs for harvest and then give it to the homeless or to the local food banks? Maybe name a wall for one of their infamous errors. Like put a plaque on it with a name. Maybe the RCMP can get some street cred back after all their “mistakes”. Lotsa maybes, eh?
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