We have been saying we need our own refineries in Canada for decades, and then process our own oil to gas, and cut the U.S. middleman right out of the picture. When is the Canadian Government going to get off the pot and do something constructive about it? Time for a big change!!!

Gotta love that gas tax. Snowed yesterday morning so must be working.

I meant carbon tax.

“B.C. is right behind at $.143.7”

That’s some mighty cheap gas there. I paid over a dollar a liter last time I filled up. :) Sure glad I didn’t buy it for $137.9!

Gas tax to, as the price goes up so does the tax big win fall for Fed and Province that’s why they keep their mouth shut. Yes more refineries would be great however better for Governments and oil companies just the way it is.Export, export, export then buy it back. We In Canada are sheep and have no guts or ability to force any change just bla, bla, bla.

There’s an easy way to save money on gas… use less. Or alternatively, buy a more fuel efficient vehicle.

If you insist on driving a 4×4 dually or some similar vehicle (like many in PG), don’t complain.

Time to get your head out of your butt there Johnny. If you eat, ware clothes, or just about anything, high gas prices are going to make all the products you use to rise in price. Surely you figured this out.

The primary reason why gas prices in PG are lower than the national average is due to a certain big box store opening a gas bar here last year if it wasn’t for this gas bar we would be pretty well garanteed we would be up around the national average if not higher. People tend to forget that before this particular gas bar opened gas prices were very high and static now they fluxuate frequently and a lot has to do with the new gas bar in town.

f-150… JB only suggested that those who choose to use a gas guzzling pig for their toys, can quit their bitchin’. If you want to play, you better be ready to pay.

And you counter with the cost of transporting food and clothing?

Ya, that makes total sense. (insert eye roll here)… btw it’s “wear” not “ware”.

Yes because I’m going to sell my truck that is already paid for so I can buy a fuel efficient car that needs payments just to save $40 a month, where is your thinking on that JB?

Yeah Pylot, there are lots of people who feel both entitled to their gas guzzling vehicles and low gas prices. What is wrong with this picture?

…And then, when you point out that they have an entitled attitude, they get a little upset. It’s understandable on some level, I suppose.

buzzinga… you purchased your truck knowing full well the quantity of fuel it consumes. Did you think the price of gas would stay static?

Nobody is suggesting you sell the truck, as that is your choice to keep it. But you knew well ahead that the cost of running the truck would increase.

Quite frankly, I have little to zero sympathy for anybody who drives a gas guzzler (truck or high performance car), unless it’s a requirement for your livelihood.

The gas bar is Costco and individuals who drive any type of vehicle – car or truck – should be thankful for Costco – the store does not play the gas game all the gas stations were doing before its arrival.

I drive what I want.. I know what gas mileage I will be getting when I buy my vehicles. I will complain about gas prices all I want.

What irks me is when there is talk about a war somewhere the prices go up, when it comes to a long weekend the prices go up, every increase is instant but when the oil drops it takes many days for us to see it at the pumps..if we even do see a reduction.

Anything transported by rail, truck or air goes up as it costs more to get it to the consumer, so we pay again for the same increase.

Costco gas bar is my friend :)

everybody pays when gas prices increase, even if you don’t own a vehicle! How do you think the things you buy get to the stores? Almost every product we purchase is shipped by truck to those stores. Buses run on diesel or gas, and unless you walk or ride a bicycle, you aren’t exempt from fare increases as a result of rising gas prices. Those who drive “gas guzzlers” may have requirements to do so. If you own your own home, having a truck is almost a necessity, as I have found out. I choose to drive a smaller 4 cylinder truck, but even it gets less than great mileage, but I won’t part with it, I just adjust my driving habits accordingly. Don’t be an ostrich when it comes to gas prices…we ALL pay, no matter who we are, where we live, or what we drive.

Even if has goes to $2 I will do what ever it takes to live life to the fullest cause you never know the next day might be your last.

I drive a truck and I know full well it doesn’t get great mileage. It’s my choice and I know I spend more on fuel because of it.

I’m not going to sit here and say that I “need” a truck. I have a truck because I choose to have one. I agree with JB. If I really want to save money on fuel, I’ll make different choices.

For what it’s worth, gas prices at the Costco here are 129.9. Most other stations around town are anywhere from 129.9 to 134.9. It’s not worth my time to drive 20 minutes to save $3.00 in fuel. Heck, I’d probably use 4-5 bucks in gas getting there and back, LOL.

JB is correct! If there is an opportunity to save gas by driving a more fuel efficient vehicle for personal use one can choose to do that. The other things that are affected by higher fuel costs (higher merchandise prices) are basically beyond the ordinary consumer’s control. But, one can make a saving there as well by buying on sale items and sometimes in bulk, like case lot specials.

There never has been a as great a selection of real fuel efficient vehicles as there is now!

Does anybody else find it strange, that everytime the government mandates better fuel efficiency in new vehicles, suddenly the manufacturers come out with them? I wonder what they could do if they were serious about better mileage?

Some people have tinkered on their own and achieved terrific mileage, Neil Young being one. Imagine, 80 MpG with a ’59 Lincoln. He’s shooting for 100.

Part of the reason that fuel economy is still poor is because vehicles these days are obese compared to what they were 20 years ago. Look at a 1/2 ton truck from the mid 90’s compared to a new 1/2 ton truck today. Same goes for SUV’s and cars.

I had a Honda Fit that people would look at and say “it’s so tiny”. It was WAY bigger that the 1998 Firefly that was my first car.

People want big vehicles with powerful engines. This isn’t the way to improve fuel economy. Probably the best thing the auto makers could do to improve fuel economy would be to bring more diesel engines to North America. Unfortunately, they aren’t all that popular in the US market and that’s where the sales are made.

Give me more, you left out Young’s buses.

NMG – have you checked the price of diesel fuel in PG; it is ridiculous to say the least.

Tesla Sedan

Sure the car is expensive but you don’t have to buy fuel!

Hey woodwoman,

I didn’t say diesel would be cheaper, just better fuel economy ;)

You are right though, you’d have to do the comparison. With diesel prices they way they are now, I’m honestly not sure of you’d be better off with a diesel Jetta for example, or a 4 cylinder Honda or Toyota gas engine.

Given the conditions of the roads in Prince George. Small cars are not the way to go. Yes they save fuel, but they can’t take the constant pounding of daily driving on roads that are broken up. What you save on fuel, will be put back and then some on repairs to tires and rims and suspension repairs. I have driven winter roads in Prince George for over 40 years, this is the first time after a winter of driving that I need a new winter tire (tread separation) on one side of the car and a new rim(bent) on the other side. This is on a mid sized car. My 4X4 fared well.

I heard they are scrapping those Olympic time hydrogen busses in Squamish. Part of Arnie’s and Commissioner Campbell’s dream of a “hydrogen highway” between Californeee and here in BC. Downside? The hydrogen needed for them had to be trucked in from Qeebec. Never give up hope. Maybe our mayor can purchase a couple of them just to top Dannos hot water pipe down George Street. Gotta save our environment at any cost. How about it, Sherri? Get em’ cheap while they’re still around.

Gas prices should be the least of your worries. What about diesel prices?

What about….sugar?

http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/Shows/the+fifth+estate/Season+39/ID/2410472474/

Cheetos… it depends on the make of small car. I own a 14 year old Toyota Echo, and I drove the first of its 11 years on PG roads with no problems.

Comment Posted by: NMG on April 19 2014 3:14 PM
Part of the reason that fuel economy is still poor is because vehicles these days are obese compared to what they were 20 years ago. Look at a 1/2 ton truck from the mid 90’s compared to a new 1/2 ton truck today. Same goes for SUV’s and cars.

I had a Honda Fit that people would look at and say “it’s so tiny”. It was WAY bigger that the 1998 Firefly that was my first car.

People want big vehicles with powerful engines. This isn’t the way to improve fuel economy. Probably the best thing the auto makers could do to improve fuel economy would be to bring more diesel engines to North America. Unfortunately, they aren’t all that popular in the US market and that’s where the sales are made.
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Most vehicles are lighter and have much improved mileage over any from the 90’s.
My 2008 Silverado is lighter and has better fuel mileage ratings than any 1990’s era Silverado in its class.

Drove from PG to Seatle last fall for a seahawks game with my 2012 F-150 8 cyld engine. Left on a full tank filled back up in Seatle, $135.00 @ $4.00 per gal US. No bitching here.

Vancouver has the highest average regular gas price in the country today at $.149.9,

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And I suppose that price includes the additional Transit Tax they have down there???

I’m not buying the weight argument at all.

My 97 F-150 Extra Cab 4×4 weighed basically the same as my current Tacoma Double Cab, or just over 4,000 pounds. I remember being very surprised when I compared the two owners manuals after buying the Tacoma. Tow ratings and capacities were also within a hundred pounds or so of each other.

The lightest F-150 4×4 you can get now is over 5,000 pounds. They are basically the size of the 1 ton trucks from the 90’s. I haven’t compared the Chevy or Dodge trucks, but I’d be shocked if it wasn’t similar.

Now, I will agree that the new trucks get better mileage than the old ones and I think that’s a testament to the engineering that is taking place. Larger vehicles, much more powerful engines and better fuel economy. They really have come a long ways. That said, I can’t help but think that this current technology in a platform the size of the old trucks, could be seeing much better fuel economy than what we currently see. An improvement is good, but it doesn’t mean it’s as good as it could be.

“Cheetos… it depends on the make of small car. I own a 14 year old Toyota Echo, and I drove the first of its 11 years on PG roads with no problems”

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I agree. I drove my Honda Fit in PG with no problems and my friends with small cars never had issues as well.

I think sometimes a larger vehicle is actually worse on bad roads. The amount of force that a 1 ton truck exerts on the front end when hitting a pot hole is far more than what a Toyota Corolla would apply. Obviously the 1 ton is also a beefier vehicle, but it’s still not engineered for abuse. Bigger isn’t always better.

You don’t have to be a genius to know why the gas prices are lower in PG.Thanks to Costco.Service stations are trying to make up the difference by pricing their diesel over the top.Costco needs to install a diesel pump.

The experts predict increases in gas prices right across the country as we move through the summer months.

What the h**l do these experts know? Sounds like bankers that state interest rates will go up only to be proven wrong.

Manufacturers are tooling up for using aluminum on as many body panels as possible. Lighter vehicles get better gas mileage and other components like brakes and suspension parts can then be made smaller and lighter. Also exhaust emissions will be less. Toyota will put Atkinson cycle engines in some of their models, gaining a 30% fuel advantage over similarly sized ordinary gasoline engines. A new kind of glass is being developed which is lighter and stronger. The next few years will see a lot of changes, all for the better.

NMG . You forgot about how much mileage is lost these days to make them environmentally friendly. Air pumps, exhaust etc..

“NMG…I think sometimes a larger vehicle is actually worse on bad roads.” – I think you are correct. Both damaged tires on my wife’s car were on the front end. Motor, transmission, transfer case (AWD) – on or near front end.

way back in the 50 60s even before then cars with v8 engines where tinkered with to go 100 miles or more on a gallon of gasoline burning just the fumes of the gas alone . not the carb pouring gasoline directly into the cylinder head which gobbled it up ..causing high heat , extreme wear. gas is not explosive, the vapour that comes off it is ,,, this was all squashed by,,,, you guessed it ? big oil.

And to drive through a pothole that destroys your rim and tires and oil pan transmission motor whatever I would say you are a distracted driver for whatever the reason. Maybe take the bus :} cheers

My 2012 F150 with 360 horsepower and a 5.0l V8 engine gets 26 mpg routinely on the highway. That is MUCH better than any 1980’s or 1990’s vehicle I ever owned…..

Gas is just a part of the overall cost of vehicle ownership. Factor in insurance, maintenance, tires, and whatnot and it just doesn’t pay to have multiple vehicles.

I complain about fuel prices because it seems like we’re always selling off the raw product and then buying back the refined product from some foreign entity for a much higher (inflated) price.

Price gouging at its finest.

100 miles per gallon goes against basic chemistry. Engine will not run above air fuel mixture above 18 parts air to one part fuel.

Diesel is a petroleum product produce during the process to make gasoline. I owned a 1993 Dodge with a cummins diesel. Back then, diesel was way less in cost than gas. However, I will tell you I was getting great mileage. In 1993, diesel was 47 cents a litre, way below the price of gas.

The problem was, everybody started buying diesel burning vehicles. The price of diesel shot through the ceiling, and here we are today. It’s total robbery, and these thugs that control it should go to prison forever.

Happy Easter all,

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