New Construction Planned on Victoria Street
Tuesday, April 29, 2014 @ 3:59 AM
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Prince George, B.C.- The heavy equipment has arrived, and the construction is about to start on a lot on Victoria Street.
The lot at 1011 Victoria, is to be the new home of All West Glass.
The plan calls for a $3.1 million dollar construction of a 15 thousand square meter building. The developer will also do some offsite improvements such as sidewalk repair.
Access to the site will be from 10th and 11th Avenues.
Because this property lies within the Downtown Prince George boundary, the developers will be entitled to the tax breaks that go along with improving the property’s assessed value. That tax break will be in effect for up to 10 years.
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Something is wrong with those figures.
That would mean a construction cost of just over $200/m2 or about $20/ft2.
On top of that, a 15,000 m2 building is larger than Costco. It would not fit on the lot.
Likely 15,000 ft2 building at $200/ft2.
15000 sf building.
That’s great news!! Glad to see another new building on an old brownfield. Less of those brownfields the better.
“Less of those brown fields the better”
Why? What is wrong with spaces that are unused by humans?
That is natural reclamation in the urban environs.
Why do we need to fill every space with an edifice?
I always thought that spot would be perfect for some trees, grass and benches.
Posted by Loki;
I always thought that spot would be perfect for some trees, grass and benches.
And who would pay to install those benches, trees, and grass?
Who would pay to maintain it?
Us the taxpayer? The landowner?
I think not!
At some point down the road this property will actually contribute to our collective tax rolls, not be another drain such as the PAC that so many on this site are always griping about!
Obviously Loki has never been to Richmond, B.C. Majestic looking empty spaces called alleyways between buildings courtesy of Skytrain.
Will my taxes rise next year to compensate for the tax break awarded to this property? He asked sarcastically.
Hey, Loki. Parks don’t pay taxes. Come to think of it, neither will this building. Doh!
Thank goodness these empty spaces in the downtown are being developed. Not that I don’t agree with benches, trees, etc., but unfortunately the empty lots become full of weeds, long dead grass and an easy spot for people to toss their refuse. I love that we have community gardens, but the unsightly one on Victoria St. needs to be addressed. Old 45 gallon fuel drums are not what you expect to see vegetables growing out of.
The linked site is a web page about Davie Village community garden on the corner of Davie and Burrard. Can’t get much more central in Canada’s third largest urban agglomeration.
The same situation as ours, an owner who is not going to build until the conditions are right has allowed the property to be used by the community as a Garden.
Comparing ours to theirs is like comparing a hinterland decrepit dump site in a gritty city (at this time of year that is an apt name … gritty) to what a real community garden that enhances a downtown mixed use site should look like.
Our owners, our gardeners and our City Hall should be ashamed big time!
http://www.villagevancouver.ca/profiles/blogs/gardens-gardens-at-davie-and
Well said NyteHawwk. The more taxpayers, the more my taxes are reduced. Downtown property is too valuable to leave bare for us to subsidize.
too funny, thinking that more tax contributors implies lower taxation rates.
Have you not been watching the shenanigans at city hall?
By the by, I have been to Richmond. A clean, verdant city with actual usable and accessible green spaces between the developments. They are not all official parks, but it seemed like a pleasant place.
More taxpayers?
You realize, of course, that All West has been in town for years and are located on 15th on the perimeter of the carter light industrial are.
While these are times when the City will accept any kind of development, I really do not think that Victoria between 1st and 15th is one where we should be promoting light industrial usage.
At one time, some 20 years ago or so, someone was looking into putting a restaurant/cabaret on that spot.
I would have preferred something like a Swiss Chalet there.
But hey, this is PG.
Hey people have any of you against this even given thought to the fact that with a bigger building might mean more available jobs? This is not some big corporate company coming to take from local business…. it is a local business and has been here servicing most of you for many years and will continue to do so for many more
“Hey people have any of you against this even given thought to the fact that with a bigger building might mean more available jobs?”
Sure, I have.
I am just because that company is getting more contracts resulting in more jobs does not mean that some other companies in the same business are doing the same or staying steady. It is the total jobs in that business that is important. Are there more jobs in the glass business in the community?
In fact, perhaps a more efficient layout in the plant with some better machinery, there might be fewer jobs increasing the productivity.
I do not have the answer to that. Maybe someone in the business can tell us.
You know, if IPG were on top of industrial statistical data, they would be able to tell us the answer to those questions.
We do not need to create more jobs. What we need to do is get the unemployed attached to the labour market and retain that attachment.
The economic goal is full employment rather than job creation.
3 tenets of a free society:
sustain oneself
care for another
give back to the community
Everything else is just excess.
To reply to Gus’s comment;
There is not only a lack of skilled trades people in this town as well as our province,but even fewer who are qualified in the glass trade (Glazier)in our town. This makes for very easy job positions in this industry in our town for anyone with a glass background. The fact that All West Glass is so diverse and deals with such a wide range of glass needs can only mean growth and employment for more locals.
Better machinery or plant layout is certainly not going eliminate any jobs in our industry, but in fact will create more positions.
Does anyone in town have cad/cam glass cutting machinery?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyybtuK4zMQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csK6_PAqRMY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2z_2-3LYpk
Neat truck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYHFTC_ldHo
“Hey, Loki. Parks don’t pay taxes”
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No, but parks and green space (if done properly) do make cities nice. Nice cities attract more people and more businesses than not so nice cities and this leads to more taxpayers.
“Hey, Loki. Parks don’t pay taxes”
neither do most corporations or politicians or uber wealthy.
Whats your point?
Hey Gus…
Yes AWG has an automated glass cutting table.
I could just imagine what that green space, with trees and benches, would be occupied with.
Dog poop?
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Thanks for the info bugchucker.
Who would use it if it was treed and made to look nice ?,,,transients that’s who . right off the bus over to the park. lets be serious here , perfect place for what is going on there and I remember back in the day a cabaret as well was being planned. Squashed like many other good things that could have been,,, should have been.
These companies should not be getting any tax breaks if they are already located in the City. What’s the point???
4seasons says “I love that we have community gardens, but the unsightly one on Victoria St. needs to be addressed. Old 45 gallon fuel drums are not what you expect to see vegetables growing out of.”
I couldn’t agree with you more. They are an eyesore.
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