What a joke.

Yes I agree it is a joke, give them what they want!

Just split the difference and go with 11.5% over 5 years and get on with it.

On a separate note, it seems the “hang em high” crowd continues to get their comments deleted in all the Leggebokoff stories. Think they would have learned by now… but no such luck!

Before the courts. And trial by media. Get a clue, eh? Why not wander down and sit in? Might open yer eyes. And mind, pal.

With the purpose of directing the swarm of worker bees, the king bee, wears bright colors to warn preditors of the power he has over the swarm.

How many hundreds of millions of dollars will teacher raises and benefits cost taxpayers?

And where is that money coming from? Oh wait, I know the answer to that one.

If these government lovers only new, the inside of what the teachers actually do and I know for a fact that a lot just like to hear them selves talk.

What’s wrong with questioning how much teacher demands are going to cost taxpayers? Is that not allowed?

They should not get greedy, and just be fortunate they have jobs!! Lots of people out there with nothing…

Posted by: buzzinga on June 3 2014 10:36 AM
If these government lovers only new, the inside of what the teachers actually do and I know for a fact that a lot just like to hear them selves talk.

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Apparently they don’t teach grammar and spelling. :)

I am a right winger, never been in a union. However, 7.25% is too low over 6 years. I was saying 15% before, but 12-13% is a good level as long as it is for 6 years.

The $1200 signing bonus is just a side candy tray.

Apparently, they don’t teach punctuation, either, axman.

I suspect that the percentage increase is not the true problem even though it is what is being focused on. I believe the real problem is the appeal of the court decision which said the government behaved illegally. The ramifications from that decision, apart from the $2,000,000 awarded to the teachers, is that class sizes should revert to what was in the cancelled contract. While under appeal and not yet implemented, the government wants to renegotiate this issue before the appeal hearing so they can tell the court the issue has been settled, presumably in their favour. Teachers want to restore what they had before in their contract and are not willing to reach any agreement which gives them less than that because not reaching an agreement means they will get the old class sizes back when the court once again rules against the government. Hence the impasse.

Posted by: ammonra on June 3 2014 11:44 AM
Apparently, they don’t teach punctuation, either, axman.

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Touche. But, I figured you’d be along with the extra comma that I could borrow. :)

Next time “Raise-a-Reader” comes around it might be needed more than ever. Teach yer kids to read. The schools won’t or can’t. How long before “Raise-a-mathematician and Raise a-writer” exists. Not long, I bet.

LOL

Yer is infact your

And they are not greedy, that’s why they are risking most of there pay cheques to get the kids what they need

Both sides of this negotiation are paid by the taxpayers. So either way we lose.

When we really lose is when this educated generation of doctors and engineers take over. But I’m sure all those right wingers will have that foreign workers programe fine tuned by then! You get what you pay for.

…most of “their” “paycheques…” I’m a Canajun high school graduate, ya know.

“And where is that money coming from? Oh wait, I know the answer to that one.”

Yup, from the same location the Liberals got their self-appointed pay raise from. There’s no money for anybody but themselves.

Bs ammonra – give them what they want in raises and they would sign on the dotted line, kids be damned

At least with a Teacher, you get some value for the money. I can’t say the same for a Liberal politician (or any other stripe for that matter).

Axman: Touche. But, I figured you’d be along with the extra comma that I could borrow.
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Touche back! :).

Pylot: “Yup, from the same location the Liberals got their self-appointed pay raise from.”

Not that I agree with that either, but a few politicians getting a raise won’t cost anything near what 41,000 teachers will cost. Get ready to dig deep.

How many pupils in a private class room and how many special needs? Now if the taxpayer quit funding the private system and that money went into the public system there should be no funding issues and no two different classes of education.

ammonra has nailed it on the head!
why negotiate something that is already a done deal and should have been that way since it was originally bargained?

Christy gave her mlas a 18% pay hike a little while back. whats the matter with that JOHNNY,what no comments on that. maybe we should scrap education altogether just like the Taliban, ruthless lawless lock your doors cause the Taliban are hunting tonight.

ice: “Christy gave her mlas a 18% pay hike a little while back. whats the matter with that JOHNNY,what no comments on that. maybe we should scrap education altogether just like the Taliban, ruthless lawless lock your doors cause the Taliban are hunting tonight.”

A little melodramatic are we? I did respond to the MLA pay raise above, you must have missed it.

The cost of education in this province is set to skyrocket, depending on how much we give the teachers in wages, perks, and benefits, and how the government appeal goes.

A couple of MLA salary increases will be a drop in the bucket compared to what’s potentially coming. Get ready to pay up everyone.

I support the teachers. My daughter is in a grade two and three split that has two teachers. There are 47 children in that class. On top of that there’s three IEP’s which are independent learning programs in that class, which means they need extra help. My daughter needed help one day she had her hand up over three minutes to the point that she needed to change hands and nobody came to her. Why? Because they don’t have enough time. They need to have smaller class sizes and the need to be able to assist all of the kids in their class by having extra help available in teaching assistants. Instead my daughter brought home the homework basically with the big red letters underlining DO! They have too many kids and not enough time. Teachers need a fair deal!

BS, what happened to the days when teachers taught the “class”. Back then we didn’t get 1 on 1 teaching. The only time we got the sole attention of the teacher was during an exam or exercise. And that was the exception, not the rule of teaching. Go back to special needs students get taught separate and troublesome students are in a class of their own. Let the vast majority of students who can be taught as a group be taught be one teacher like it was. Have special classes for special needs, etc. Kids with different learning curves cannot and should not be in the same class, no matter how pc it is.

ammonra has got this one right.I also wonder why it is taking so long for the appeal to be heard.They should not have allowed an appeal.

Now stop funding a two class education system, public-private. Take the taxpayers money out of private education and add that to the public system, problem solved, no funding issues and everyone gets an equal education.

What is the average size of the private school class and the number of special needs students? What is the support of special needs in a private school?

In stead of teacher bashing, why don’t some parents of children stop using the school system as a babysitting service. If half of the parents took the education of our children seriously, maybe we could attract cheaper educators to our schools. You could not pay me enough to do a teachers job.

It’s mandatory to attend school in some shape or form. How can that be babysitting and thrown back on parents chevy?

And where is that money coming from? Oh wait, I know the answer to that one.”

Yup, from the same location the Liberals got their self-appointed pay raise from. There’s no money for anybody but themselves.

Childish way to look at it Pylot Project. I think 7.5% over 6yrs is a fair offer, you teachers like to make it sound like the Government hasn’t offered anything and you are all deprived.