Well rounded questions, however this is an election and reality is not really the main player. Issues that are important to Canadians will be at the forefront as this election rolls along, veterans, seniors,C51,long term objectives for the economy and jobs, education, healthcare all of which the Harper Government have undermined. It will be those that vote that see this and other issues as critical in this election. Everyone knows what has happen in the past 10 years is now in the hands of the voter to make a choice continue with the Cons and liberals as has been the case for 100 years or vote NDP.

“why Canada is becoming a totalitarian police state” – Justins’ father Pierre “Liberal” brought in marshal law during the Quebec crisis, remember that? Pierre brought in the SIN number to trace people. Remember that? Pierre gave the one finger salute to fellow Canadians in Ashcroft area. Remember that? The Liberals brought in a multi billion dollar gun control. Remember that? Pierre brought a modified constitution to Canada the robs it’s citizen the constitutional right to own property. Remember that? Pierre and Liberals brought in the “Just Society” where un-elected judges rule the land. Remember that? Justin and the Liberals are just a chip of Pierre’s ideologies. So don’t blame “totalitarian police state” on Harper and company. Oh and the NDP, if Canadians want 60 percent and more of their wages to go to taxes then vote NDP. Yikes wake up people.

Please Harper is to blame, its happening now.

How far back do you want to go. I’m sure I’ve read on some other posts of you Harper lovers, telling people to stop blaming the past for all their problems. And move on.

Time to follow your guys own advice and move on. Harper has to go.

Can’t trust Harper

Pierre Trudeau was a Canadian and he always put Canada first! He didn’t give the country away and never kissed the backside of our neighbour or anyone else. He was a real human being (!) who actually made mistakes like a human being and admitted it, in contrast to what we have now. Aloof, cold and uncaring he was not. Neither was he a control freak and afraid of being criticized.

Lets be quite clear, Pierre Trudeau’s vision of Canada was essentially the same as the Nazi Party’s view of pre-war Germany ~ one country, one people, one leader. Himself. He ran roughshod over the Constitutional rights of the Provinces, dividing and conquering to the full extent he could get away with. And if it hadn’t been for Premier WAC Bennett, who insisted on any ‘constitutional changes’ promises from Trudeau be put “in writing”, he’d have got away with doing a lot more damage than he subsequently did. As it was, he spawned strong separatist movements, not only in his native Quebec, but also in western Canada. Privately, he was little more than an over-aged, would-be ‘flower child’, who’d have been quite comfortable with his child bride getting stoned out of their skulls in the hippy district of San Francisco if he hadn’t had such a craving for power.

I am still waiting for Harper to deliver on his promise of a open and honest government.. Havent seen one iota of this yet in all his term.

socredible and Harper would have been a bible thumping minister in some wing nut cult..

@socredible.

Usually your input is at least understandable if one sided. But here you are factually wrong. Trudeau is responsible for the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. He is responsible for setting Canada on its current path of multiculturalism.
The current government is the one quelling dissent and trying to control the discourse. 5 questions only…. Harper is the closest Canada has come to Fascism.

I’m confused, is Pierre Trudeau running in this election?

so credible “let’s be quite clear” Harper has got to go.

Check out , “10 reasons to Vote for Anyone but Harper”

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/sarah-miller2/canada-election-2015_b_7967240.html

If conservative voters were told that a leader from another party did the things Harper has done they would lose their minds calling for his head.
They don’t because they believe everything his spin doctors say at face value.

The truth, is Harpers weakness that is why his crew does everything in their power to distract you from it.

The Harper government takes us for granted.

During the Canada Winter Games thousands of volunteers spent countless hours show casing Prince George and area to the country. Harper didn’t even show up. I believe it is the first time that a Prime Minister has shunned the city hosting the games. I know your going to say he was to busy protecting us from terror and what not. But you would be wrong. He’s was in Quebec at a snowman carnival during opening ceremonies and was in Calgary watching curling during the closing ceremonies.

We need strong representation in our region and for the past 22 years the Reform, Alliance, and Conservatives have not done their job.

Can’t trust Harper

I agree Dave. No one likes to be taken for granted. You can almost here his advisers “Don’t waste anytime going there Mr. P.M. They’ll vote for you no matter how many times you snub them.” Then again, if he had shown up, probably the “lefties” would be complaining about how much it cost for him to be here and as a “rightie” I would have joined in. Costs tens of thousands every time these guys go anywhere. I’d prefer they just stay in Ottawa and leave the keys to the jet in the hanger.

Don’t forget to check “harperman”
Cheers

Socredible, comparing Canada`s Pierre Trudeau vision with pre-war (post Versailles Treaty!) destabilized to the very core Germany and the inevitable advent of Nazi totalitarianism is one of the most ridiculous statements I have read on this site yet! Get real!

Ski51 its not like he was in his office counting penny’s. He was in Quebec at a snowman carnival trying to secure votes.

But you are missing the point it’s not that he only dissed us during the games. He has never been here and we have two MP’s that just sit there and do as there told. We see them at election time and that’s it. One lives in Osoyoos, the other in Fort Saint John. We have had no effective representation in central BC for over 20 years. You must see that.

So refreshing and reassuring to see so many comments telling it like it is when it coms to the Cons and Harper. The theme of utter contempt for Canadians demonstrated by the current government is beyond belief and must end.

I do Dave. I fundamentally agree with you. It bugs me too that Harper never shows us the love so to speak, but has plenty of hugs for elsewhere, in spite of this being a loyal conservative stronghold.

My comment is general and not party specific. I’d rather the whole bunch of them would just stay put and quit blowing cash on phony photo ops and glad handing. I meet someone who needs hip surgery on a 18 month waiting list and then find out the PM or some other cabinet Minister is in some far off land for some dubious purpose.

apoliticalgeek, the Trudeau Charter of Rights and Freedoms is a poor substitute for the rights and freedoms we previously enjoyed under the protection of precedent established throughout the centuries of evolution of British common law.

The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is Canadian. The constitution was patriated from Britain. The British have their version of Rights and Freedoms and now we have ours! There is no such a thing as the Trudeau Charter of Rights and Freedoms, just as there is no such a thing as a Harper Government. I am sick and tired of the Government of Canada being called the Harper Government. It is OUR government, not Mister Harper’s. Although some government advertising already had Harper Government on it!

Harpers charter of Violating our Rights and Freedoms SUCKS..

Prime Minister Harper was invited to attend the Canada Winter Games here! Making excuses not to come can easily be interpreted as an insult!

Come to think of it, Prince Charles and Princess Diana visited here, even the Queen herself! The only Canadian Prime Minister who came to Prince George on an official visit was Pierre Trudeau!

More PM hyperbole today: “Canada is the one of the most generous countries when it comes to accepting refugees, in fact, it is perhaps the most generous one in the world.” This is not a poor joke! The whole world! As a matter of fact, Canada has gotten a reputation that it puts up as many obstacles as possible for refugees, unless one is of the really rich upper class who are able to put up millions of dollars in investment – then they are in like Flint!

Harper said we have had the most applications for refugees.

Big difference.

Can’t trust harper

@ Dave!

How far back do you want to go and you are sure you read on some other posts about Blablablablablabla!!!

you want to make a point, back it up with something better than this!

OK PG!

Tell us what Canada is going to do with the Millions Plus refugees that want to get away from their war torn countries that they live in. Are we to up root the millions of citizens that have lived there for generations and just grant them status to live in Canada!!

This topic is getting a bit off course and it is sad to see a photo of a child laying on the shores of Turkey, who’s family was trying to get away from the problems in their country. But really, is Canada on the hook for this!!

How much money does the government have to spend to bring all these people to Canada when we have so many out of work and homeless here already.

As of today, Your saviors Trudeau and Mulcair seem to think we have much room to move on this subject. We will see how far their deficit promises go if they become leaders of this country.

Here you go ohreally didn’t take long to find one.

Posted on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 @ 3:07 PM by P Val
You can’t see the future if you are always looking back.

This topic is getting a bit off course and it is sad to see a photo of a child laying on the shores of Turkey, who’s family was trying to get away from the problems in their country. But really, is Canada on the hook for this!!

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It has nothing to do with being “on the hook”, it is about showing compassion and doing what we can to help people when they need it. And yes, we have the capacity to do it. In fact, we have the capacity to do much more than what we already do. We just have to make the choice.

Dave! that’s the best you have!!

NMG: I watched the news conference of Trudeau and Mulcair today, they were in tears. One blamed the Canadian government while the other decided to postpone that actuation until later. After the news conference with the sister, she said that she did not file for immigration for that family. So don’t tell me that the government has not done everything to help people from these war torn countries, and try to get them to a better life. You are just like CBC, You jump on the first story without getting all the facts. Now you will be back tracking like Trudeau and his significant other.

O.k., ohreally. Most of these people are refugees, not migrants! Many European countries have stepped up and accommodated tens of thousands of them and saved their lives! Past experience has demonstrated that for very many of them it was a desperate attempt to save their lives, many returned to their home countries when it was safe to do so. Read what NMG is saying! Canada must take a share of them, just like other countries! It is a humanitarian and compassionate duty to do so! NOBODY is demanding that Canada take millions of them, Canada is not uprooting them, circumstances beyond their control and even ours are destroying their lives!

There was a time when people were put on ships, told to leave and never come back! Nobody gave them refuge and eventually they were forced to return. Then they met their fate. Canada did not do all it could then. Do not let it happen again. Learn from history and do not ignore facts.

It has zero to do what the latest heroes de jour are! Either you are a compassionate human or you are not.

Being compassionate is one thing, trying to save the world is another. Sometimes, just rescuing people is not the answer, helping them in their home land is. That is why humanitarian aid is given and in some circumstances, Military aid. That is why our government has joined forces with other countries to help rid these radical groups from these territories. Otherwise, be prepared to have millions of refugee’s coming here.

NMG: “I’m confused, is Pierre Trudeau running in this election?” No his son Justin is and the apple sometimes doesn’t fall too far from the tree. Justin announced a few days ago that if elected he would run a deficit for the next three or four years, you know, get things going. That is exactly what Pierre did, it’s no wonder people have to wait long times for needed surgery etc.. Trudeau (Pierre) put us so far in debt that we will as a nation never pay it off. Yet Justin is advocating the same. Pretty soon we will be broke and be like Greece, standing in line at a ATM to get a few dollars. Transferring wealth from Canadians into the hands of foreigners. Justin “the budget will balance itself” – Justin “run the economy from the heart”. I can’t believe people would actually consider a drama teacher to be PM of Canada and the NDP seriously, they couldn’t balance a piggy bank.

Cheetos, I had my hip replaced in Jan after just over a 2 year wait.. Living on pain killers all that time.. Had nothing to do either Trudeau.. So who would you blame ?

The wait lists for hospital care are there because of funding cuts. You know all the cuts Harper makes.

And for quotes here is one from your local conservative candidate Todd.
“we’re just here to win a seat”

NMG: I watched the news conference of Trudeau and Mulcair today, they were in tears. One blamed the Canadian government while the other decided to postpone that actuation until later. After the news conference with the sister, she said that she did not file for immigration for that family. So don’t tell me that the government has not done everything to help people from these war torn countries, and try to get them to a better life. You are just like CBC, You jump on the first story without getting all the facts. Now you will be back tracking like Trudeau and his significant other.

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Thanks for the response, but you didn’t comprehend what I actually wrote.

Millions? Oh really? Trying to save the world? The whole world? It would add something credible and worthwhile to the discussion if some people would avoid blatant nonsense exaggerations.

Cheetos says “I can’t believe people would actually consider a drama teacher to be PM of Canada”. Some people aren’t comfortable with the mail room clerk that is the PM right now.

I kind of see your way of thinking Cheetos. Whenever Ben Mulroney comes on my TV I want to slap him silly. Just because he is the son of lyin’ Brian Mulroney.

NMG: Pretty sure I comprehend! Throw it back at you

Caterwauling. **To protest or complain noisily.

Hyperbole. **Exaggeration, overstatement, embellishment.

Tripe. **Something of no value, rubbish.

Cockamamie. **Ridiculous, implausible.

Some of the above words might be of some interest to some posters.

Lets talk about bill c51, I believe it is all about watching for terrorist and isis. I believe Harper just wanted a more secure Canada
Trudeau promises the drug users a new world if he gets in, Oh and jobs for everyone, NDP Tom, hated businesses, he will take the Halloween candy from the kid at the door and give it to the lazy one on the couch watching tv. Oh and yes, immorality is good. I say Vote for harper,
believe in Billc51, before we start getting shot up, or heads cut off.
Also do background checks on teachers for the safety of our children.
They shouldn’t mind. We have a serious security concern now. Wake up people, open your eyes. Harper is the best to go with. end of story.

” Oh and yes, immorality is good. I say vote for harper,”

Hahaha……

PVal:-“Cheetos, I had my hip replaced in Jan after just over a 2 year wait.. Living on pain killers all that time.. Had nothing to do either Trudeau.. So who would you blame ? ”
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When you have a medicare system that’s designed to treat a disease in priority to treating the patient, the only one to blame is the one who initiated that system. That certainly wasn’t Stephen Harper. Your problem was you had the ‘wrong’ ailment. If you had had a heart attack and needed bypass surgery right now, you’d be at the front of the line. Hip replacement, a long ways back. It’s interesting that those few areas of medicine where ‘profit’ is still allowed to allocate the use of available resources, albeit privately owned ones, there is very little wait time, and the cost to the patient has actually come down. But whoever it was that believed medicare should, or could, be run sans ‘profit’, should have also realised that a slow moving government bureaucracy is a poor substitute for private initiative when it comes to serving the patient. The REAL problem with medicare wasn’t that someone was ‘profiting’ off someone else’s illness or injury, but that there never was sufficient incomes for a rising number of patients to pay their medical bills and still live.

Socred…. Wow.. So you are saying people with more immediate needs are looked at first… Umm Duh.. It always has been that way..no matter what party was in charged..lol. I am guessing you and Cheetos are being paid by the cons for your comments.. Hip and knee replacements wait times steadily increased thanks to Harper.

Prince George wrote:-” As a matter of fact, Canada has gotten a reputation that it puts up as many obstacles as possible for refugees, unless one is of the really rich upper class who are able to put up millions of dollars in investment – then they are in like Flint! ”
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That’s nothing new, Prince George. The same thing happened back in the later 1930’s, with a Liberal government in office. Those refugees that were put on that ship in Nazi Germany and told never to return ~ the ones you mentioned that did after being refused entry here and everywhere else ~ only to “meet their fate” , were the ‘small fry’. The ‘bigger fish’ of the same species had no problem coming in, and staying here. Some of the businesses they built are still around, Canfor, for one.

No, PVal, the Conservatives are not paying me for my comments. I don’t work for them, I’m not even a member of their Party, or any other, nor would I want to be. I will support them in this election because I think they have given the country reasonably good government, so far. Throwing more money at trying to reduce wait times for hip and knee surgeries is unlikely to do much good. It’s not a scarcity of resources to do these procedures we’re suffering from, it’s the way they’re being allocated. All we get out of increased funding would be an increase in bureaucracy, and wait times would still be too long. Ask yourself this. If you were nearsighted, and hated wearing glasses or contact lenses to see normally, how long do you think you’d have to wait if you decided to have laser eye surgery? This is considered to be a completely cosmetic procedure in most instances. Not something vital. Yet the surgeons are all qualified medical doctors. You wouldn’t be waiting 2 years, that’s for sure. This is something that you pay for yourself. Medicare doesn’t cover it. And the cost has come down considerably since the procedure was first perfected.

“…. it’s the way they’re being allocated.”

You are always so mysterious socredible. When you write something like that, why keep all of us guessing as to how they are being allocated that causes the wait times and how they should be allocated which would significantly reduce the wait times.