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good grief …..

Light Steel?

They can’t literally mean “pre-fab”, can they? That is, they aren’t going to assemble the frame in Turkey and move it whole to PG, are they?

Light steel construction info.

Hmm. Are links now disabled?

Here’s the bare url: http://www.understandconstruction.com/light-gauge-steel-construction.html

It’s a known fact they don’t have the financing for this project. Oh, and getting your steel from Turkey ? lol. There’s a reason they had to look to Turkey for steel quotes, if you get my drift…

That Clint Dahl is one smart fella to start the project in late November, he can use the same construction crews that should be wrapping up the Westgate Hotel project that he announced in early spring with a late fall completion date.

The re re redesign work for the downtown hotel should be nearing completion also so the construction trades will be busy this winter.

They did not want to go through the costly design/redesign/redesign again process for Quebec Street so pulled out a tried and true one- 1950’s Soviet era low rise,gawd one butt ugly building.

Is there a common thread in these projects?

It’s a good idea in theory, I have friends who want to buy a home, don’t want a house with the yard maintenance, want a condo/townhouse, but there’s not much for nice and affordable in this town. And the new townhouses going up by Tabor area are too big for a single person.
But after checking out this company’s site, not sure they would be my first choice. They have some nice pictures, but nothing for information about what exactly they do.

Dahl needs to see at least one project through to completion! I wont be placing any bets that this will be the one.
I think they announced the wrong location for this project. The parkade is at 5th and Brunswick…isnt it?

Which one is uglier? The WIDC or this condo? A thumbs up is the WIDC and a thumbs down is the condo.

Pretty sure this is going in behind the Commonwealth Health building (if it goes in), so 6th & Quebec maybe? Either way, I have zero confidence in this project with Clint Dahl behind it. Three big announcements: Delta Hotel, Westgate Hotel, Downtown Condos, and literally nothing coming from any of them. 250News: is there any update to the Delta Hotel project downtown?

They are pre-fabing the building here. YAG demonstrated their construction method last year. They are kind of like Winton Global but they use bent steel,and they can make very large buildings. They use and innovative bent steel construction.

This building is just the beginning for them in Canada, and they have chosen PG as the place to start.

Personally I welcome them to PG. If things go well this could be a very large company in PG.

I would love to see a crew start digging in November, and finish by spring.. who dreams of this stuff?

This building isn’t on 5th. It will be on 6th and Brunswick. Behind the building with Heather Sadler Jenkins, and Pharmasave, across the street from TELUS.

Right now, there isn’t anything but a concrete slab.

Don’t know why all the negative comments. To revitalize downtown PG, we need people residing in the downtown core. The more people down here, the more opportunity for business.

editor’s note:
Thanks for the correction… typo on my part of course it’s 6th and Quebec…. always has been. The copy has been corrected.

Elaine Macdonald-Meisner

and “Pre-fab” just means all the pieces will be created off-site, and likely craned into place

He is going to have building code problem.

Light steel framing is okay for low rise construction, but I do not recall such a building system used for anything more than single family residential.

First of all, there would be a structural problem unless it is built with a steel or concrete frame. The thing that people do not understand is that steel does not stand up as long as wood does. A wood stud will support a structure longer than a light steel stud of the same size.

Also, the base of the building is terrible. It is the part that people walk by and would enter to a restaurant, retail or whatever. The entrance of the building looks like a house door.

It would be wonderful to have something there, but let us not ruin the site with something like that.

Here is a link to the fire issue.
fireengineering.com/articles/print/volume-159/issue-6/features/the-dangers-of-lightweight-steel-construction.html

No digging required. It is being built on top of an underground parkade just north of the old bingo hall.

Still, panelized or not, construction to a turnkey building like that will take longer than late spring. Late spring is middle of June. Seven months, it will not be ready. I do not know where he will get the finishing building trades from to finish that. The structure is a small component of the project.

Pgjohn is right. A prefab shop or garage is a building kit you buy and assemble on site. I think the frame for this building is prefab and will be assembled here. No land prep to do, it’s going on top of the parkade across from Telus and beside the Elisabeth Fry building.

Personally, the downtown is one of the last places I would want to live. I doubt those that work downtown would look at this as an option either, except the younger crowd. If the price is right…. maybe it works. Otherwise I expect these units will be purchased by investors looking to rent them out. If it gets built.

I’m someone in my 20’s, and if the price was right, I’d definitely consider looking at a unit. Would be nice to be able to walk to work, and social events with friends.

I don’t expect many people of an older demographic being interested. A huge benefit to residing in PG is the ability to have some space.

I’ve seen it snow in July, so I guess one of this developers projects may actually come to fruition!

I may be wrong but I believe the ‘PREFAB’ component of this project is misunderstood.

I have personally seen Clints prefab operation and it is amazing. I believe the prefab refers to the structural skeleton of the building – not the entire building.

The metal framing is precut to size and has all cutouts and openings ready for wiring, electrical, plumbing etc. drastically reducing the subtrade work required for ‘fitting’ the building for the particular services mentioned. End result – the building goes up fast.

If you get the opportunity – check it out. It is indeed impressive.

A Chinese building company put up a 57 story building in 19 days . You could watch it go up on YouTube . If memory serves it was last May . They did another one the year before . That one took 15 days .

When viewing 250 News on a smartphone the photos are just too small to look at, even on a fair sized device.. Can’t you folks let us click the images so we can see what they fully look like?

A very expensive highrise in Dubai is being prefab. They will do each unit in a plant and then lift it into place. They state that it is cheaper and faster plus better working conditions – they have to worry about the heat, for PG it would be the winter weather. Also each unit is free standing inside the building so you do not hear your neighbours.

The perpetual stalled hotel/condo project next to the library could not sell any units except to a couple of the people involved with the project. Other than the top floors, they were in the $300,000+ range, I believe. If in the core of downtown, that is a relatively good location and being above the 6th or so floor, would have been up high enough with some amenities.

The mantra in Real Estaate is location, location, location. Looking at the Telus building on the north side, having the Elizabeth Fry building next door, and facing offices across the court yard to the south is not exactly what I would call the best downtown location.

On top of that, the base is too high off the sidewalk to have an easily accessible storefront of any sort.

An imaginative architect, no, I take that back, any architect could do a better job of designing around the obstruction of the podium, even if it mans losing two parking spaces in the parkade to gain 60 feet of street level frontage.

USA light frame construction for low rise buildings: understandconstruction.com/light-gauge-steel-construction.html

Clint Dahl time lapse of 2 storey house “panel” construction (notice Turkish flag on left): youtube.com/watch?v=sd_0k5dBoHA

youtube.com/watch?v=71U_xFM2H_Q

That is a better rendering, thank you.

A bit of history to put the current interest of modular building in context for those who might be interested.

Panel construction – wood, steel, concrete, even brick (Plaza 400 has panelized brick exterior pre-assembled and lifted into place) is absolutely nothing new.

Holiday Inn used to build some of their hotels in the 1960s with concrete boxes built in factories with all the interior finishes, plumbing, electrical, hvac, communication cables, etc in place hooked into a structural framing system of concrete or steel. The Yellowhead Inn was built in a similar fashion, except with wood framed “boxes”.

We sent panelized housing from PG to other parts of the world, including far eastern Russia about 2 decades ago.

Before coming to PG, I worked for a turn-key developer designing apartment buildings of precast concrete which was smooth enough to apply paint on directly without drywall. We assembled a floor with up to 16 suites per floor, using two hammerheads on rails, one week per floor. The windows, electrical, plumbing, started following about 4 floors below. When the roof was on and we had an enclosed building, the final inside finishes were done. Depending on the complexity of the building shape as well as height, the superstructure above the underground garage and foundation would be finished in 9 to 12 months for on average 200 unit apartment building.

We also shipped panels in barges across Lake Ontario from Toronto to SUNY in Rochester for student residences.

Modular construction of that magnitude was common in Europe after the war because of labour shortage, post war rebuilding as well as the baby boom.

Our company was going to build another plant in Canada and 4 in the USA. The market for that type of construction ran dry. I am a skeptic about this firm being able to get a foothold in Canada. Almost every such attempt has failed, even in larger cities.

Other than Toronto and Montreal, it never really caught on in Canada and the USA. The most interesting example, of course, was Habitat at Expo 67 in Montreal designed by Moshe Safdie initially as a graduate student project.

‘I have personally seen Clints prefab operation and it is amazing. – Clint doesn’t have a prefab operation, he is a realtor, and former Bell employee who sold phone plans.

” I am a skeptic about this firm being able to get a foothold in Canada.”

If they complete the building as per the rendering and use it as a model to gain a toehold,foothold a stretch no matter how you slice it, in the North American market they better start growing their toenails to help them hang on longer than a few nanoseconds:)

End of November is not that far away. Can’t believe that someone would make this announcement unless they plan to move forward with it.

I have personally seen Clints prefab operation and it is amazing. – Clint doesn’t have a prefab operation, he is a realtor, and former Bell employee who sold phone plans.

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Does this guy ever have great credentials as a builder. Who was the guy that was involved in a gold heist that always had great plans for development?
Cheers

LOL @ sparrow ….