Friday Free for All – Oct. 30th
Thursday, October 29, 2015 @ 11:59 PM
Say goodbye to another month, and hello to Friday!
It’s time for the Friday Free for All, when 250News provides an open thread for discussion.
You pick the topic, but please, keep the comments brief, remember that if you post a url link, it will have to be approved before it will become ‘live’ and , as always, respect each other. Name calling will not be tolerated.
The three simple rules are as follows:
Keep it clean
Keep it legal
No Bullying
L E T ‘E R R I P !!!
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From Elizabeth May:
http://elizabethmaymp.ca/fixing-what-harper-broke-a-to-do-list-for-the-incoming-government/
Good Morning Prince George!
“keep the comments brief”. I hadn’t noticed that part before. People been complaining about Eagleone?
“By now we should recognize that failed experimental monetary management was the leading culprit in the so-called “worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.” So what’s at risk today from much more egregious monetary experimentation? With runaway Bubbles at risk or faltering around the globe, central bankers are left with a choice of pushing ever forward with monetary inflation and market manipulation – or coming clean. Clearly they believe they have no choice at all.”
Hobson’s Choice
http://creditbubblebulletin.blogspot.ca/2015/10/weekly-commentary-hobsons-choice.html
Happy Friday! ! Hey Axman, I think it should’ve neen called the “Eagleone Clause”
Quote of the week on 250news:
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Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 @ 3:15 PM by Elaine Macdonald-Meisner with a score of 24
Our Politics showing through?
Mike Morris is the MLA for Prince George -Mackenzie, I frankly don’t care about his political stripes, if the sitting MLA was NDP or Green, or any other party, and was making a statement IN SUPPORT OF PROSTATE CANCER RESEARCH, I would run the photo. not EVERYTHING is political…. good lord you folks have narrow minds.
The thing is, people do get into a frenzy over left wing right wing. Everything has become political.
Maybe we can all go out there on the streets carrying signs for our respective sides and tart bashing each other over out heads.
It is just not the way to do things.
Perhaps Hart Guy should have volunteered to grow a hairy upper lip and get his business promoted. :-)
Let’s take it a little further gopg – let’s make it like “Divergent”. You pick you faction and head off to live amongst your own kind forever. “Now son, you come from a long line of Liberals, choose wisely”
“Oh NO little Susie picked Conservative!!”
Lmao
Have a safe and fun Halloween everyone.. remember to watch for tricker treaters tomorrow. Also be proactive and get your winter tires installed before the crazy first snow fall rush happens :)
Charles, Eagleone, Socredible, Phillips, Evert and everyone else should read this and look for the Canadian comments in the comment section. Some good reading.
Comments are just not about “climate change” but covers the full political spectrum.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/30/russian-president-climate-change-is-fraud/
Oh I would be Totally flabbergasted if the CBC Made the Putin comment a headline. CBC the new Pravda.
Had another interesting traffic experience this week;
I was in a pick up truck, slowing from highway speed to turn left on a rural road, signaled my intentions well before slowing, but had to wait for oncoming traffic before actually turning. The road is straight, typical 2 lane with a relatively narrow shoulder.
Unladen chip truck passes me on the right at near highway speed;
Damn that guy was good! threaded the needle at 90 K and I was only slowing down, had not actually stopped.
I feel safe knowing that such professional drivers are on the highways….
metalman.
I think it’s time that the Prov. Gov’t got out of the liquor retail AND distribution business. At what point do we say we don’t need a Nanny Gov’t telling us what varieties of wine, beer and spirits can be purchased in this province? This doesn’t mean they would lose taxation. That mechanism of revenue should stay in place as the sin-tax that it is.
I’ve made a couple of trips across the border into Washington this passed year when I was visiting family in the lower mainland. It amazes me the selection of products they have in all manner of retail, whether it’s designated a liquor store, or in the a small community grocery. Each store is allowed to bring in whatever they want, and have knowledgeable staff to make such selections. They don’t fill the shelves with mountains of the same corporate swill, but rather they stock the shelves with multitudes of different items.
In BC, each store (including cold beer stores) is identical to the next because the Prov. Gov’t is the distributor. They make the decisions of what can be sold here.
There’s also protectionist policies to help the VQA survive. If BC wine is as outstanding as they claim, they will survive without the help of the Gov’t. Have you ever seen a wine from Niagra on the shelves? Why are there so few wines from Washington and Oregon?
My final point, just think of the savings of not having to pay all those Gov’t wages for people to stock shelves with wine & beer, and the gold plated pensions that follow. Plus they could sell off the land of Gov’t stores, and perhaps cease paying high leasing costs.
It just seems weird to me that they never give up their grip on retailing alcohol. When was the last time you saw a Gov’t tobacco store?
Rant over. I think I need a drink, but it’s too early. :D
Brother Gecko! You shouldn’t have mentioned it.. Now there will be Gov’t Tobacco stores opening up. lol.
Have a fun filled weekend everyone. Give lots of Candy out tomorrow night.
metalman, that must of made your heart beat a little faster. That’s just frightening; glad you made it through.
Brother Gecko, love your rant this morning. What you say about the gov’t liquor stores makes great sense.
Have a great weekend everyone!
gopg2015, thanks but I’ll leave my facial hair right where it is! While I donate to support Cancer Research, I have no desire to shave in order to support it or to promote my business.
I do believe that raising Prostate Cancer awareness is a worthwhile cause and I applaud those that raise the issue. I’ll keep on making donations to support Cancer Research, in addition to supporting other causes such s the Heart and Stroke Foundation, the Alzheimer’s Society and the Northern Lights Wildlife Society! We all need to do our parts and every little bit helps!
So, gopg2015, grab P Val and head to Mike’s office and make a donation, haha!
Hey HG your side lost the election. Go cry somewhere else.
Search Scorchers V cyclist haters ….. It’s an article in the guardian . From a day ago . They hated us long before the automobile/tractor disruption of the horse/oxen age .
That’s funny DF . Maybe he’ll ride away on his Segway . I’m sure his is gas powered .
Gecko Willow River store has a nice selection of booze. In Washington state Grocerie stores, Costco, Walmart can only sell beer and wine, Oregon California anything goes. So different rules all over.
I can not understand how a rural store can sell booze but a townie store can’t. Sure no liquor stores out in the boonies but hey a store is a store.
Wonder if our liquor stores and rural booze selling stores will get into the dope business?
If the government were to get out of the liquor business, that’s fine. But are they going to stop setting the prices? A true open market might benefit the consumer, I’m all for cheap booze, but if they’re going to continue to set the prices, I’d rather see good paying jobs. If I’m paying $30 for my bottle, I’d rather some of it go towards an employee who can afford a car, mortgage, etc, versus a minimum wage clerk and all proceeds going towards the store owner. I don’t buy the trickle down economic theory.
If however the government left the market alone and let the market dictate price, only then would I support privatizing.
seadogg ..thats cannabis….your Dope is in the Medicine cabinet..booze in the burbs Special licence…..Do not drink and drive…Smoke and Fly…watch for those kids…
Dumbfounded, unlike you, I am interested in what is going on economically, not just here in PG and BC, but also in Alberta, Ontario and all other provinces and territories as well as in Canada as a whole!
What happens in Alberta and what happens in Ontario will have an effect on what happens in the rest of Canada! The Alberta economy is having an effect on the incomes of many British Columbians! If Albertan’s don’t contribute as much to the Federal equalization program, where might Ottawa find those dollars? Perhaps the Feds, especially under Justin, might want more from BC in order to keep money flowing to Quebec?
Rising and already high electricity rates in Ontario will drive up their costs of manufacturing. This could very well result in higher prices for the things that we buy from Ontario such as vehicles. There is also the possibility that our low electricity rates and our economy in general might attract more investment away from Ontario. BC might benefit but the Canadian economy as a whole might suffer!
LOTS to think about, and even more to be concerned about!
Dumbfounded, perhaps your side won the election? Time will tell if much like the average Albertan, you will start to wonder if you shot yourself in the foot!
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2015 @ 11:59 AM by Hart Guy with a score of 0
Dumbfounded, unlike you, I am interested in what is going on economically, not just here in PG and BC, but also in Alberta, Ontario and all other provinces and territories as well as in Canada as a whole!
What happens in Alberta and what happens in Ontario will have an effect on what happens in the rest of Canada! The Alberta economy is having an effect on the incomes of many British Columbians! If Albertan’s don’t contribute as much to the Federal equalization program, where might Ottawa find those dollars? Perhaps the Feds, especially under Justin, might want more from BC in order to keep money flowing to Quebec?
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You make it sound like the tax payers are on the hook for union dues. Why would the reader take anything you say seriously Hart Guy? Harpers gone along with his corruption, dictatorship and spending spree. Christy Clark is on her way out too. Start packing for mexico hart guy.
@ 8, I somehow suspect that you already have a subscription to the HuffPost, so I’m surprised that you didn’t read the following column from May 31’st of this year. Seems Ontario’s Liberal Government is rife with corruption, dictatorship and spending sprees. Things haven’t gotten any better there since the column first appeared, in fact I would suggest that things have only gotten worse!
ht tp://www.huffingtonpost.ca/daniel-dickin/liberal-government_b_5421346.html
Yes 8, it looks like the taxpayers of Ontario will be on the hook for Kathleen Wynne’s Ontario Liberal Government’s promise of $2.5 million taxpayer dollars to three Ontario teachers’ unions to help them cover the Union’s cost of contract negotiations!
Don’t believe me? I’m sure that you are a fan of the CBC, so perhaps you will believe them!
ht tp://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/kathleen-wynne-says-teachers-unions-must-provide-receipts-for-payouts-1.3292588
8, further bad news today out of Alberta as Husky Energy Inc. revealed that “it has chopped 1,400 jobs as of Sept. 30, representing 22 per cent of its worldwide staff, an action described by chief executive Asim Ghosh as a “bitter pill” necessitated by structural change in the oil and gas price environment.”
This on top of layoffs from many others in the energy sector, Cenovus and Suncor to name just two more of the many companies that have reduced spending budgets, cut costs and laid off workers!
Thousands of job losses already, wage freezes, billions of dollars in curtailed spending announcements!
The Alberta NDP Government’s response? Their budget says nothing about controlling both the size and cost of government! Larger and more expensive government, in spite of the economy’s ability to pay for it!
Sounds like Notley and Wynne think alike! I suspect that Justin’s ideology follows much the same line of thinking!
Gonna get real interesting!
8 Did you miss the news that the Ontario Liberals were paying the teachers union 2.5 million to cover their costs to negotiate? That sounds, looks and smells like taxpayers funding unions. You leftards complain of corporate corruption. This farce of reimbursing a union for their fight against their employer is beyond corrupt. Who funded the mass third party advertising to re-elect horse face wynn? Every public sector union from cops to teachers spent millions, and surprise, they are reimbursed for what union dues are for. Unions are bloodsucking leaches that need to be crushed. No wonder the mob was so interested in them. Ask Quebec how their doing, ask the Vancouver port what is required to get hired. This crap is happening right under our nose. Ever wonder why the unions are fighting the disclosure rules that were proposed by the conservatives? We just might see how much these clowns make and what crack pot causes they spend mandatory dues on. Like Wynn, our new PM zoolander knows how to buy union votes.
And under Harper there was nothing going on under our noses? What a laugh you are.
Nothing remotely close to what has gone on in Ontario dumb dumb. They have now voted in the same BS for the whole country.
Dumbfounded, you may whine (and you do whine) about Stephen Harper and the Conservative Government, however in 1974 Canadian Rock Band Bachman Turner Overdrive released a song that is worth mentioning, now that the left has elected JT and Co.
The song?
“You Ain’t Seen Nothin’ Yet”!
Nuff said!
P.S. – Have a safe, happy and fun-filled Halloween everyone!
Hart dude… I have already donated to Movember..did it last week when I signed up on my team… I appreciate you worrying about me though :)
Hope you have a good weekend.
That’s what I like about “rightards” like Dow7501. Foaming rabidly at the mouth about a union getting 2.5 million dollars from the Ontario government. Extrapolating, without evidence, that other unions that allegedly supported Wynne’s Liberals are being similarly treated. Strangely silent about a billion plus dollars in corporate welfare being handed out by the Quebec government to Bombardier. Typical.
When Hart Guy is ready to elect a government that does not waist the unions dollars in bad negotiations he could save a bundle of tax dollars. We all understand that Hart guy will never be aloud to enter the 1%ers until he knows how to work with unions instead of bad mouthing them. Trump, Jimmy Pattison and myself included learned how to increase our bottom lines working with and supporting union. Novel thought.
Strangely silent about a billion plus dollars in corporate welfare being handed out by the Quebec government to Bombardier.
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Which will go to ensure that a lot of people (both union and non-union) remain employed.
You make it sound like a corporation is 1 or 2 fat cats sitting in an office smoking stogies while everyone else sits on the bread line.
Good afternoon to all my fiends in George. Rainy day in Abby but it does help to keep the air nice, clean and fresh.
Are you guys ever wound up today . The election is over and Harper is gone so how much better can it get. I have to make one last comment on the election for my friends about the election.
Pal once said Mulcair who ? well he was probable right. Mulcair suffered from the same malaise that Dix suffered from and that was “charisma”. Justin went about the campaign as a winner with smiles and laughs and he won.
Well that’s it for today you guys enjoy what’s left of our Friday
Cheers ‘
Yes. That’s pretty much it. Most of that money will probably end up as bonuses in the pay packets of Bombardier’s upper executive strata, while they sometime in the near future announce massive cuts to their workforce.
That’s a CON for you. Corporate welfare to supposedly keep people working is a good thing but providing decent welfare support to people when they cannot find or are unable to work is the worst possible thing, since all those people are just lazy and want a free ride.
How’s all the corporate welfare working out for GM’s workers in that Ontario city (Oahawa? Name’s escaping me right now)? Oh…that’s right. It isn’t. Or how about all the welfare handed out to that locomotive manufacturer. How many Canadian jobs did that preserve? Zero, but I’m pretty sure the executives that moved the plant to the USA enjoyed nice fat payouts with taxpayers money.
So excuse me if I don’t believe that handing out welfare cheques to corporations does anything to preserve jobs, Union or otherwise.
Hahaha, it doesn’t take a mental giant to see that every public and most private sector unions supported the Ontario and Federal Liberals. You need proof? Open your friggin eyes. I also find corporate welfare like Bombardier nauseating. But hey, it’s Quebec’s money, thanks to equalization, and the scum that run this colossal piece of crap that benefit which includes both management and unions.
Hahaha, it doesn’t take a mental giant to see that every public and most private sector unions supported the Ontario and Federal Liberals. You need proof? Open your friggin eyes. I also find corporate welfare like Bombardier nauseating. But hey, it’s Quebec’s money, thanks to equalization, and the scum that run this colossal piece of crap company that benefit which includes both management and unions.
Dumbfounded, this is for you! As reported in today’s National Post, according to a post-election Angus Reid poll released today, Stephen Harper will be remembered as an average or better prime minister by most Canadians!
“But for all the heated rhetoric about the Conservative prime minister, Canadians say he will leave office with an average or better legacy, according to the Angus Reid Institute poll.
Only five per cent of respondents thought history would judge Harper as an “outstanding” prime minister. But almost one-third of them said he was “average,” and another 18 per cent said he was an “above average” leader. That’s 52 per cent of Canadians who think Harper was average or better.”
I am of the opinion that as time marches on, this number will increase!
Dumbfounded, I’d provide a link to the article, but if you are really interested in reading it, I am sure that you can google The National Post and find the article yourself. After all, your not one of those lefties that need to constantly be spoon fed, are you?
Hahaha
HG where is the 3 billion tax payers dollars your hero and his cronies lost and aren’t being held to account for, gone?
Seamutt, how many birds are killed by windmills? How many are killed by common house cats?
“You make it sound like a corporation is 1 or 2 fat cats sitting in an office smoking stogies while everyone else sits on the bread line”
Actually there are dozens of them smoking stogies. Look around.
Everyone needs to realize where dow is coming from. He spends more time trading stocks on his cellphone than they do at the New York stock exchange. Any loss is blamed on the lefties and gains are purely because his god, (Harper) and the rest of the righttards juggled the laws in Canada to benefit greedy capitalists.
I see Wallin, Duffy and Brazeau are all back sitting in the senate once again. I wonder who passed laws in Canada to allow that righttard mentality to become normal?
Brazeau back in the senate . I love it . He’s young . He could sit till he’s seventy five with Stevie bus tracks up his front and conservative senators knives in his back . We know he respects prime minister Trudeau .
[quote] Hahaha, it doesn’t take a mental giant to see that every public and most private sector unions supported the Ontario and Federal Liberals. You need proof? Open your friggin eyes. I also find corporate welfare like Bombardier nauseating. But hey, it’s Quebec’s money, thanks to equalization, and the scum that run this colossal piece of crap that benefit which includes both management and unions. [/quote]
Even if public and private sector unions supported the Ontario and Federal Liberals, what of it? Are you seriously suggesting that union support was responsible for getting those Liberal parties elected? If you are then someone as deluded as you has zero right to tell me to “open my friggen eyes”. I have had my eyes open for a long time and what I’ve seen happening in this country for the last 30 years in no way suggests unions or their support of any political party results in that party gaining power. If they did have any influence then it would be nothing but NDP governments Nationally and Provincially.
Union support has been falling for decades now, because a vast majority have bought the Canadian elites’ Kool-aid that allowing them to get filthy rich benefits the working class. It is no coincidence that the living standards of average working Canadians, especially young working Canadians, is falling along with the decline in Unionization.
The very parties you allege the unions are supporting have been in collusion with Corporate Canada for decades. Liberals, Cons. It makes no difference. When they get elected they invariably enact legislation to weaken or destroy workers rights. They have gone after virtually everything: suppressing wage increases through economic uncertainty, helping their coroporate masters to destroy defined-benefit pension plans, forcing Canadian workers to invest in risky stock market ventures by ensuring that safe investments pay so little there is no choice but to invest in the Corporatocracy that is busy lowering Canadian living standards, slowly impoverishing Canadians through devaluation of the Canadian currency and signing “free” trade deals that pit Canadian workers with developed social structures against workers in countries whose entire social structure is “work or die”.
And you have the gall to tell me to open my eyes. Take your own advice.
hey dumbfounded so in your world its okay for hundreds of thousands of birds including eagles and rare raptors to be killed by costly inefficient subsidy sucking taxpayers money, wind power and solar, the green blob.
You people here fighting over unions and corporations while the green blob is robbing you blind and you folks are too blind to see it. That is what is pitiful. Ontario’s electricity rates are rising chasing manufacturing out of the province into China. The same thing is happening in Bam Bam land.
Those arguing over big oil while missing the big story, carbon trading is bigger than oil and the only ones benefiting are the big money houses and banks. Laughing while you folks ague about unions and corporations which do not merit even an infected pimple one an elephants butt in todays world. Putin gets it and China is all in.
This is just one off much more information on how climate science is not about science at all but about money, power, politics and world governance. Harper got it, Tony Abbot got it and they were removed. Justin is just a puppet, http://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2015/10/19/the-preposterous-green-institute-and-the-ipcc/
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