Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 10:13 AM by seamutt with a score of 0
Thought Trudeau was big on human rights, smoke and mirrors. I guess got to pay into his debt somehow. Just can’t make this stuff up and its from the CBC, amazing
“The Liberal government continued to defend Canada’s $15-billion sale of light-armoured vehicles to Saudi Arabia as “a matter of principle,” just as a new report highlighting the U.S government’s concerns with widespread human rights violations in the kingdom was released this week.”
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 12:09 AM by Hart Guy with a score of 0
Another story about this Saudi Arms deal:
Steven Chase, Ottawa — The Globe and Mail, Tuesday, Apr. 12, 2016 4:54PM EDT
DION QUIETLY APPROVED ARMS SALE TO SAUDI ARABIA IN APRIL: DOCUMENTS
“Foreign Affairs Minister Stéphane Dion has quietly issued export permits for the bulk of the shipments tied to a controversial $15-billion sale of combat vehicles to Saudi Arabia, a crucial green light for the deal that many thought had already been granted.
Mr. Dion approved six export permits on Friday covering more than 70 per cent of the transaction, newly released documents show – a decision that represents the most vital step in the Canadian government’s arms-control process. The Liberals have long said they could not interfere with what they described as a “done deal” arranged by the Harper Conservatives.”
The Liberals said this was a done deal, a deal done by the Conservatives! They lied!
These should give Justin’s supporters something to talk about, haha!
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 12:18 AM by Hart Guy with a score of 0
Oops, I missed this quote from the last story. It was such a great quote that I don’t want anyone to miss out on it!
“Newly released secret documents show how the Foreign Affairs Minister quietly gave the green light to sell combat vehicles to Saudi Arabia – challenging the Liberal government’s claims that their hands were tied on the $15-billion ‘done deal’ brokered by their Conservative predecessors. Here are eight key takeaways from the documents”
Have fun!
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 8:25 AM by PrinceGeorge with a score of 0
I believe the fear of Liberals is called Liberals Politicophobia. There is a cure – it is called an Election.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 9:11 AM by PrinceGeorge with a score of 0
I can just hear the whining and bleating from the Cons if the Liberals had not honoured but cancelled Harper’s arms deal with the Saudis:
Here we go again, Liberals break the deal and agree to pay a billion dollar fine for doing so!
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 2:38 PM by Dumbfounded with a score of 0
Looks like you got us all beat Hart Guy. Theres no way anyone could ever find a news story about the cons that would even come close to anything the Libs have done wrong.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 4:40 PM by Hart Guy with a score of 0
Hey Dumbfounded, it wasn’t that long ago that you were bitching and moaning about the Conservatives. Now that the Liberals are in power, are you suggesting that anything negative about the Liberals should be swept under the rug?
Our mainstream media seems more than content to avoid anything that might embarrass Justin and Co. Are the rest of us to remain silent as well?
I love how you refer to the Conservatives as the cons! Like Justin and Co. haven’t pulled the biggest con job that any of us have seen in a very long time!
By the way, one of the most pathetic and telling statements about this twit that you elected was his comment where he defended the approval of this Saudi arms deal because there were jobs at risk in London, Ontario. This from Justin, who couldn’t care less about the thousand upon thousands of western Canadian energy sector workers that are out of a job!
Justin, just like his old man, couldn’t care less about western Canada, but you go ahead and defend him, haha!
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 8:27 PM by Dumbfounded with a score of 0
whaaaaaaaaa
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 8:36 PM by Hart Guy with a score of 0
whaaaaaaaaa?
Really Dumbfounded? Really? whaaaaaaaaa?
That’s the sound that one often hears from a baby, when their diaper is full of it, haha!
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 9:25 PM by Hahaha with a score of 0
I think he meant you are crying like that proverbial baby with a diaper full of whatsit that you mentioned.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 3:16 AM by Dave with a score of 0
My do Mp’s not have to show their attendance record in the house. All they will announce is if they were in the house for a vote. We make the Senate produce their attendance records. How hard could it be to track our elected Mp’s.
It would tell a lot about who we voted for.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 4:54 AM by P Val with a score of 0
Have a great weekend everyone…be safe out there.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 5:45 AM by axman with a score of 0
Election’s over people. Move along and enjoy the sunshine. We’re screwed no matter who’s running the show.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 9:27 AM by gopg2015 with a score of 0
The people run the show. Remember, we elect them … :-)
That means you axman. You just did not have enough buddies across the country this time around.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 9:42 AM by axman with a score of 0
Actually, the party I voted for got in. Living in Zimmer’s riding presented me with a quandary, do I not bother voting or do I vote for change? I voted for change but, as expected, nothing changed up here. We need a Doherty up here. If people are going to keep voting for the party rather then the candidate it would be nice if we had a decent candidate.
And just because I voted for them doesn’t mean I agree with the spending spree that was their alleged budget. I want fiscal responsibility from all levels of government. There are far too many people gorging at the public trough.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 10:27 PM by Hahaha with a score of 0
@axman
Are you willing to give up access to medicare, CPP, and OAS?
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 6:16 AM by cougs79 with a score of 0
Well Dave, that would show how little time JT spent in the HOC. We can’t have that
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 6:29 AM by Stillsmokin with a score of 0
Welll Seems like a slow morning
How bout that Supreme Crt ruling on Metis and non status??? Guess it’ll mean more money going out of the coffers
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 6:58 AM by P Val with a score of 0
stillsmokin.. Right now it costs about $248 a yr per Canadian to pay the natives what they get.. Be interesting to see what this ruling will increase that cost.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 7:03 AM by tackdog with a score of 0
SUPREME COURT RULING
April 13th 2016
The supreme court has unanimously ruled that the 600,000 Metis and non-status Indians in Canada are the responsibility and wards of the Fed Government, allowing them entitlement to the same benefit as Treaty Indians.
Following are the facts from this ruling:
These above recognized people of Canada will now be the beneficiaries of:
• Free medical and dental benefits
• Free schooling and post grad education
• GST and PST exemption in most cases
• Heritage Land negotiations
• All the same distinct acknowledgement, received by Treaty Indians
My following opinions are not written as prejudice:
• Non status Indians mean? Right now Non Status Indians do not receive “all” these benefits that Status Indians do.
• The Manitoba leader interviewed on TV yesterday (who appeared mad as hell at the Feds, even though they got their ruling) said the Conservative Gov. had told them to “pound sand” He went on to say that they then took it to the supreme court, but he has met with the Liberal Minister of Indigenous Affairs, prior to this court ruling and she had agreed that the Libs would indeed agreed to include them in as a “recognized people” and receive benefits. This new ruling has just solidified that.
Right or wrong as to if the government is responsible for spending multi-millions of $ to support Canada’s Indigenous People is not my issue, as the agreement of responsibility is supposedly already written into the 1867 Constitution. My issue is:
• it is entirely unfair to give special treatment to distinct to any citizens of Canada, who are made of the same body mind and soul that the almighty creator designed as a “human being” having 2 arms, 2 legs, 2 eyes and 2 ears, with only skin color and ancestry making the difference.
• We need some accountability
• Why has the Gov. or the courts deemed that the 600 plus Reserves do not have to submit annual financial statements any more, as previously deemed mandatory by the Harper Gov. The “Disclosure Act” rescinded by the Minister of Indigenous Affairs, as of Dec 2015.
• Shouldn’t all citizens in Canada have access to free education, medical and dental too?
• Where will the Feds get the extra money? This will amount to millions of $$ and the Feds say they have no idea where this extra money will come from. Maybe from the spare CPP $$ is has NOT being collected, by life long contributors who have unfortunately passed on before they could collect.
• If the Feds are willing to recognize and support the above Canadian people and give them —-why can’t they do the very same for our VETS?
•
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 8:17 AM by socredible with a score of 0
We have a reverse form of ‘apartheid’ in Canada. That makes it okay.
Don’t worry about where the money will come from. It’ll come from where it’s always come from. An increase in indebtedness. For that’s all ‘money’ really is. DEBT. It’ll never be ‘paid off’ ~ if it were, that much ‘money’ would simply disappear, and things that are priced in it couldn’t be sold for lack of ‘money’. When that happens we have ‘hard times’, and governments go into debt further to replace what they’ve just destroyed ~ the ‘money’. It was created ‘out of nothing’, and that’s what it will go back to when it’s repaid ~ ‘nothing’. Simple bookkeeping, debits and credits. Too bad WE don’t have a proper set of National Accounts that show all our actual ASSETS. All we see now is the increase in our LIABILITIES. Which we argue endlessly about, but are completely lost in finding a way to change without proper knowledge of what’s really going on financially.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 2:40 PM by Dumbfounded with a score of 0
The money sure won’t come from rich Canadians off shore tax haven accounts will it?
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 8:04 AM by FlyinF with a score of 0
What I cant’t understand is why every town,city,municipality,province and this whole country is bending over for 4.3 % of the population???
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 8:19 AM by socredible with a score of 0
Because, as we’ve been told over and over again, that’s the Canada we want back.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 8:20 AM by JLS with a score of 0
Wow. How to follow tactdogs post. I have to agree. So my post. Our favorite shop, on the hill, Wal Mart(14.69 BILLION net income)is now charging 5 cents a bag. Check your receipts. I was told that they went on a big publicity thing, and there signs all over the store. Needed an excuse to never shop there again, Bet the bags only cost 1 tenth of one cent. Hope this helps all of you that shop there. Bring your own bags.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 8:36 AM by raven11 with a score of 0
shoppers drug mart has been doing it for some time now – 5 cents a bag. Save-on used to credit your bill if you brought your own bags but that stopped a long time ago.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 8:23 AM by Stillsmokin with a score of 0
allowing them entitlement to the same benefit as Treaty Indians.
correction to above.. NOT ALL Indians are TREATY INDIAN. Especially in BC.. There are only a few Treaties in BC
• Shouldn’t all citizens in Canada have access to free education, medical and dental too?
Correction to above… Indians do not ALL get FREE education. There is a long WAIT list at the Band Office and sometimes takes years to get to the top of list to be sponsored. Many students pay their own way through higher education. Just not enough funding given to Bands to send all to school
Same applies to Medical and dental. They only get the basic care and that is usually the cheapest cost for Indian Affairs and thats why those working take out the extended Health package to supplement it. They also take extra coverage when traveling out of the country
Non status Indians mean? Right now Non Status Indians do not receive “all” these benefits that Status Indians do.
Actually, non status aren’t afforded the same benefits as the status Indians
Don’t forget there are many non Indians who hold status cards because they married Native men and are afforded same benefits . But I believe this has changed based on discrimation because when Native women marry non Indians, the woman loses their Status as Indians
Hope this clarifies some misconceptions
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 9:18 AM by PrinceGeorge with a score of 0
The whole idea of classifying people by race turns me off completely. According to genetic science we all share the same common ancestors originating hundreds of thousands of years ago on the African continent. Can’t we just acknowledge that and treat each other with respect rather than by carry on with this discrimination?
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 9:33 AM by verballabel with a score of 0
Exactly. When people ask me what my background or race is, I usually reply with “Human being..”
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 11:54 AM by FlyinF with a score of 0
I agree 100% with the above statement….that is why I believe ownership of land in any country belongs to the country not the 4.3% who throw in our faces that they were here first.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 10:38 PM by Hahaha with a score of 0
It all depends on what side of the fence you are on. If you were one of the people who were here first then you would be P.O’d if johnny-come-latelys showed up and took your land.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 9:52 AM by seamutt with a score of 0
Makes for some very interesting reading, information that you will not see in our laundered mass media.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 10:33 AM by bornandbred with a score of 0
A huge apology to the truck driver involved in the logging truck rollover in the BCR site the other day. I freaked out in my post at the possibility that he could have killed someone but it turned out he was having a heart attack or something similar. Hopefully he will be okay and I wish him the best.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 10:44 AM by HabsFans with a score of 0
Note to Dan Hamhuis:
Retire from the NHL, come back to Prince George, and you can coach the Cougars along with Roman Volpat.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 2:43 PM by Dumbfounded with a score of 0
Hamhuis can coach?
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 11:02 AM by ski51 with a score of 0
It’s interesting/sad, that First Nations, Metis, and non-status all enjoy a life of privilege based on birthright, and yet, as a group, score lowest on pretty much every quality of life measure. Poverty, illness, suicide, addiction, the list goes on. So while we resent them their privilege based on birth, it appears it isn’t doing them a lot of good. In fact, their good friend the Supreme Court has pretty much ensured this cycle will never be broken by continually enshrining this privilege. No Government can ever do the one thing that will help the FN people break this viscous cycle. And that would be, to deem all people in Canada, as Canadians. Scrap the Indian Act, scrap the reserves, scrap the treaties, give a one time payment and transition them to the life all Canadians lead. The current FN population would curse us, the next one would thank us. But, the court will always be there to make sure these people never rise to the point where they can enjoy the life all non FN’s enjoy.
You may think the Supreme Court is your friend, but all they’ve managed to do, is keep the program the British outlined for you hundreds of years ago intact.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 11:22 AM by Ataloss with a score of 0
Yes that cultural genocide thingy as outlined in the 1949 declaration of indigenous rights and freedom that canada signed is so overrated . Tearing others down to build oneself up never works .
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 12:52 PM by ImFrank with a score of 0
Terrible situation happening at the Attawapiskat reserve with the suicide rate.
I was wondering why this was happening and if it was a lack of funds to help them.
I have found the following……..
2800 members and of that 1500 live on the reserve…. according to 2011 census.
…..of that 100 work at the nearby De Beers mine.
In January 2011, DeBeers put 10.5 million in a trust fund to benefit all members of the Attawapiskat.
The latest financial statement for the Attawapiskat I could find is dated March 31/13. Federal funding expended to the band was about $35 million for the fiscal year 12/13. That is about $23,000 for each member on reserve.
Granted it is a remote reserve, it would be interesting to see how that $23,000 actually was spent and should it be increased, or has it been increased the last 2 years.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 1:27 PM by seamutt with a score of 0
No no no you are not allowed to even question how the money is spent.
I have native friends with good jobs, nice houses and all the toys and they get rather upset about all this native woo is me business. Their attitude just get on with it, remember the history but move on. Then I also know a couple of native activists whose only employment if you can call it that, is activism. They know the system quite well.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 2:44 PM by Dumbfounded with a score of 0
Where is the rich hunger strike chief and her husband on this?
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 1:38 PM by BCGrog with a score of 0
Good observations ImFrank.
Let me continue on with it.
The problem with Canada is we are pathologically altruistic. “Political correctness” ( did I spit those two words out with enough venom? ) trumps common sense.
The last government brought in an accountability law. They acknowledged flinging money at these people like throwing it in front of a swamp boat fan was getting us nowhere. The new sunny ways good hair cheek dimples social justice Prime Minister Twerp and his affirmative action government had to repeal that law. For some reason they felt asking where $ 35 million dollars a year for 2100 people is too intrusive and “racist”?
In other indigenous ( is that the feel good word today? ) groups, it’s been reported the culture is the chief and his family take all the money, live off the res in urban splendour, and suck up all the cash to drive $80,000.00 vehicles and live in downtown Toronto condos while the rest of the band is burning furniture in their firepits to stay warm in plywood huts. But far be it from us to challenge that! It’s untoward!
The suicide epidemic is awful, but all I hear is emotional speeches to fling more money at the boat fan.
How about accountability? Why not crack the books at these band offices where the cheque is being sent to? Where is accountability for home and structure building and improvements? Education? Recreational buildings and education? Infrastructure? Roads? Sewer? Investment in programs for trades and other vocational opportunities?
Where are the programs to help these folks and their kids rise up and enjoy the prosperity that other First Nations have seemed to sort out and embrace?
Where is all the money going????!!!!!
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 2:49 PM by Hart Guy with a score of 0
A few days ago I read that Attawapiskat received almost $1,000,000,000.00 over the past 10 years!
That’s almost $1 BILLION!
That’s almost $100,000,000.00 per year!
Almost ONE HUNDRED MILLIONS DOLLARS per years!
For a community of just of 2,000 people!
People living in poverty, in mouldy homes, without clean water, etc.
And we are not supposed to ask where the money went?
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 10:43 PM by Hahaha with a score of 0
Source or it didn’t happen.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 2:06 PM by Ataloss with a score of 0
I have noticed in my almost seven decades that those that are overly concerned with other peoples money and or posessions , generally don’t have much of their own . And the biggest losers are alway quick to criticize the biggest winners in life . The secret to a happy life is to be grateful . Am I ever happy and grateful . Thank you canada !
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 4:48 PM by Grizzly2 with a score of 0
Don’t tell me, yer first names Common and yer last name is Sense.
Well spoken, well said, but people hate the truth!
Ask any shrink, people love to be negative.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 6:32 PM by Retired 02 with a score of 0
Good one.
Cheers
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 10:48 PM by Hahaha with a score of 0
Right. We can’t be critical when one person has more money than God and another is living in a cardboard box under a bridge.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 8:05 PM by Palopu with a score of 0
Alec Tsang works as a senior technology analyst at BC Hydro, where he’s the public utilities point person on electric cars.
Tsang said they started looking at the electricity systems needed to handle the increased load because of electric cars, as early as 2007.
One study by the University of Victoria Pacific Institute for Climate Solutions found that even in winter, when electricity demand is highest, BC had the unused capacity on it grid to charge nearly 2.4 million light-duty vehicles–almost all the 2.8 million registered vehicles in the province.
He goes on to say “Even the most optimistic projections of electric vehicle adoption still represent a really gradual load growth on utilities grids,” “So in terms of generation and transmission, that large perspective, most utilities wouldn’t have any problem meeting that demand”
Hydro Quebec basically came up with the same answers.
The main reason for not needing additional power supply is that most of these cars will be plugged in at night when power usage is at its lowest.
So,
1. No need for extra power for electric cars.
2. No need for extra power for LNG plants because they generate their own electricity.
3. Canada’s population will start to decline by 2029, so we have no big increase in population growth.
4. No big projects planned for BC in the near to long term, that would require lots of electricity.
So, tell me again, why we need Site C?????
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 8:43 PM by socredible with a score of 0
It’s this decade’s equivalent of the 2010 Winter Olympics. It puts ‘new money’ into our economy NOW. This ‘new money’ allows the rate of overall business profits to be maintained, perhaps even rise briefly, while it’s being distributed. Business profits need to be maintained to repay existing bank loans as originally contracted ~ in accounting, the principal of every loan isn’t classed as ‘revenue’ when received, nor will it be classed as ‘expenditure’ as it’s repaid. Since a lot of bank financing is incurred to increase ‘efficiency’ in the expectations it will lower (labor, mostly) costs, it leads to the increased displacement of labor, and labor incomes. As these incomes fall (taken overall), spending from them also falls. This decreases the rate of business profit overall as a percentage of business sales. When existing loans can’t be fully repaid, the credit tap is turned off. The economy spirals downward. Those businesses that survive have to keep getting bigger and bigger. In the end, even that won’t save them. To make it seem that this is not happening, governments look for mega-projects. They put needed new credit into the economy and mask what is really happening. The ‘day of reckoning’ is pushed into the future ~ but it doesn’t go away, it’s out there, all that additional debt, and the only solution governments can see at present to deal with it is to dream up another mega-project. Or have a war. Doesn’t have to be that way, but no one seems to want to look at changing it.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 8:55 PM by socredible with a score of 0
One thing for those on the right to ponder when we vote for supposedly ‘conservative’ governments is Lenin’s statement that the middle class would be ground to a pulp between the two grindstones of ‘inflation’ and ‘taxation’, and a communistic society would emerge. We should be able to counter that if we truly believe in conservative principles ~ but it seems to me all those we elect to governments of the right are doing is trying to DELAY it, as if it were inevitable. Without a viable alternative we’re fighting a losing war, for we’re getting the SAME policy imposed on us the left would impose, only slower. We’re not ever going to find that viable alternative until we begin to realise how the ‘money’ system ACTUALLY works, and what needs to change within it.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 8:32 PM by Ataloss with a score of 0
So, tell me again, why we need Site C????? How else is a pro private industry government going to take money out of a publicly owned corperation and hand it over to the private sector ? Geez . Did ya just fall off the turnip truck ?
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 9:00 PM by socredible with a score of 0
This, in a sense, is exactly what they’re doing. Only I doubt you have the slightest conception of just how.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 9:15 PM by Ataloss with a score of 0
Well , that’s all you have is doubt . And it’s not in a sense . That’s exactly what they are doing and they’re doing it on spec . Ballsy eh ?
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 9:26 PM by JGalt with a score of 0
Only 49 comments? No wonder, reading them I can see this Friday Free-For-All started off bad and then got worse. Nothing like starting it off with negative comments and then having it morph into racist rants against natives.
Maybe next week we can have some people other than the KKK of the north contribute comments here, who knows maybe it will get to 100 comments again… because no one should blame the many who stayed away from the garbage posted on here this week.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 10:20 PM by Dirtman with a score of 0
Actually it’s just a matter of nothing I’m interested in commenting on. I would have commented on those racist rants against natives, but I couldn’t find them. Guess you were referring to some other website.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 11:03 PM by Palopu with a score of 0
Ataloss. If that’s what is happening, what are you doing about it.???
Let me guess. Hmmmmmm Nothing.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 11:13 PM by Hahaha with a score of 0
The only thing Conservatives care about is extracting what little piece of their own productivity that workers manage to retain and return it to who Cons think the rightful owners are: owners of Capital.
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2016 @ 11:37 PM by BCGrog with a score of 0
JGalt is a typical left winger. In this day and age just bringing up a common sense question, albeit a tough question, makes these peoples heads explode and they immediately throw around the race card and Saul Alinsky tactics.
Nowadays newspapers and even this site hide or close the comments on FN related issues because everything is construed racist if it is dissenting.
As a famous Rush song lyric goes…
“Conform or be cast out…”
My post above was certainly not racist. I have empathy for these people and I am angry their leadership fails them and our leadership empowers their leadership to continue to fail them by just flinging money at them and refusing to ask the tough questions or install checks and balances.
I ask one more time. Why is it racist to ask for accountability for our money thrown at 4 per cent of our population?
Comments
Working late, catching up on some reading and look what I found!
STEVEN CHASE – OTTAWA — The Globe and Mail, Published Wednesday, Apr. 13, 2016 10:14PM EDT
LIBERALS ACCUSED OF LYING ABOUT SAUDI ARMS DEAL
Interesting article, a bit long but well worth the read!
ht tp://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/liberals-accused-of-lying-about-saudi-arms-deal/article29627989/
Thought Trudeau was big on human rights, smoke and mirrors. I guess got to pay into his debt somehow. Just can’t make this stuff up and its from the CBC, amazing
“The Liberal government continued to defend Canada’s $15-billion sale of light-armoured vehicles to Saudi Arabia as “a matter of principle,” just as a new report highlighting the U.S government’s concerns with widespread human rights violations in the kingdom was released this week.”
ht tp://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberals-saudi-arms-deal-amnesty-report-1.3535760?cmp=rss
Another story about this Saudi Arms deal:
Steven Chase, Ottawa — The Globe and Mail, Tuesday, Apr. 12, 2016 4:54PM EDT
DION QUIETLY APPROVED ARMS SALE TO SAUDI ARABIA IN APRIL: DOCUMENTS
“Foreign Affairs Minister Stéphane Dion has quietly issued export permits for the bulk of the shipments tied to a controversial $15-billion sale of combat vehicles to Saudi Arabia, a crucial green light for the deal that many thought had already been granted.
Mr. Dion approved six export permits on Friday covering more than 70 per cent of the transaction, newly released documents show – a decision that represents the most vital step in the Canadian government’s arms-control process. The Liberals have long said they could not interfere with what they described as a “done deal” arranged by the Harper Conservatives.”
The Liberals said this was a done deal, a deal done by the Conservatives! They lied!
ht tp://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/liberals-quietly-approved-arms-sale-to-saudis-in-april-documents/article29612233/
I’m feeling really generous and as such, here is one more about this arms deal and about how the Liberals lied about it.
BETWEEN THE LINES – THE SECRET SAUDI MEMO: DISSECTING HOW THE DOCUMENT CONTRADICTS WHAT OTTAWA HAS SAID
ht tp://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/the-secret-saudi-memo-dissecting-how-the-document-condradicts-ottawa/article29615331/
These should give Justin’s supporters something to talk about, haha!
Oops, I missed this quote from the last story. It was such a great quote that I don’t want anyone to miss out on it!
“Newly released secret documents show how the Foreign Affairs Minister quietly gave the green light to sell combat vehicles to Saudi Arabia – challenging the Liberal government’s claims that their hands were tied on the $15-billion ‘done deal’ brokered by their Conservative predecessors. Here are eight key takeaways from the documents”
Have fun!
I believe the fear of Liberals is called Liberals Politicophobia. There is a cure – it is called an Election.
I can just hear the whining and bleating from the Cons if the Liberals had not honoured but cancelled Harper’s arms deal with the Saudis:
Here we go again, Liberals break the deal and agree to pay a billion dollar fine for doing so!
Looks like you got us all beat Hart Guy. Theres no way anyone could ever find a news story about the cons that would even come close to anything the Libs have done wrong.
Hey Dumbfounded, it wasn’t that long ago that you were bitching and moaning about the Conservatives. Now that the Liberals are in power, are you suggesting that anything negative about the Liberals should be swept under the rug?
Our mainstream media seems more than content to avoid anything that might embarrass Justin and Co. Are the rest of us to remain silent as well?
I love how you refer to the Conservatives as the cons! Like Justin and Co. haven’t pulled the biggest con job that any of us have seen in a very long time!
By the way, one of the most pathetic and telling statements about this twit that you elected was his comment where he defended the approval of this Saudi arms deal because there were jobs at risk in London, Ontario. This from Justin, who couldn’t care less about the thousand upon thousands of western Canadian energy sector workers that are out of a job!
Justin, just like his old man, couldn’t care less about western Canada, but you go ahead and defend him, haha!
whaaaaaaaaa
whaaaaaaaaa?
Really Dumbfounded? Really? whaaaaaaaaa?
That’s the sound that one often hears from a baby, when their diaper is full of it, haha!
I think he meant you are crying like that proverbial baby with a diaper full of whatsit that you mentioned.
My do Mp’s not have to show their attendance record in the house. All they will announce is if they were in the house for a vote. We make the Senate produce their attendance records. How hard could it be to track our elected Mp’s.
It would tell a lot about who we voted for.
Have a great weekend everyone…be safe out there.
Election’s over people. Move along and enjoy the sunshine. We’re screwed no matter who’s running the show.
The people run the show. Remember, we elect them … :-)
That means you axman. You just did not have enough buddies across the country this time around.
Actually, the party I voted for got in. Living in Zimmer’s riding presented me with a quandary, do I not bother voting or do I vote for change? I voted for change but, as expected, nothing changed up here. We need a Doherty up here. If people are going to keep voting for the party rather then the candidate it would be nice if we had a decent candidate.
And just because I voted for them doesn’t mean I agree with the spending spree that was their alleged budget. I want fiscal responsibility from all levels of government. There are far too many people gorging at the public trough.
@axman
Are you willing to give up access to medicare, CPP, and OAS?
Well Dave, that would show how little time JT spent in the HOC. We can’t have that
Welll Seems like a slow morning
How bout that Supreme Crt ruling on Metis and non status??? Guess it’ll mean more money going out of the coffers
stillsmokin.. Right now it costs about $248 a yr per Canadian to pay the natives what they get.. Be interesting to see what this ruling will increase that cost.
SUPREME COURT RULING
April 13th 2016
The supreme court has unanimously ruled that the 600,000 Metis and non-status Indians in Canada are the responsibility and wards of the Fed Government, allowing them entitlement to the same benefit as Treaty Indians.
Following are the facts from this ruling:
These above recognized people of Canada will now be the beneficiaries of:
• Free medical and dental benefits
• Free schooling and post grad education
• GST and PST exemption in most cases
• Heritage Land negotiations
• All the same distinct acknowledgement, received by Treaty Indians
My following opinions are not written as prejudice:
• Non status Indians mean? Right now Non Status Indians do not receive “all” these benefits that Status Indians do.
• The Manitoba leader interviewed on TV yesterday (who appeared mad as hell at the Feds, even though they got their ruling) said the Conservative Gov. had told them to “pound sand” He went on to say that they then took it to the supreme court, but he has met with the Liberal Minister of Indigenous Affairs, prior to this court ruling and she had agreed that the Libs would indeed agreed to include them in as a “recognized people” and receive benefits. This new ruling has just solidified that.
Right or wrong as to if the government is responsible for spending multi-millions of $ to support Canada’s Indigenous People is not my issue, as the agreement of responsibility is supposedly already written into the 1867 Constitution. My issue is:
• it is entirely unfair to give special treatment to distinct to any citizens of Canada, who are made of the same body mind and soul that the almighty creator designed as a “human being” having 2 arms, 2 legs, 2 eyes and 2 ears, with only skin color and ancestry making the difference.
• We need some accountability
• Why has the Gov. or the courts deemed that the 600 plus Reserves do not have to submit annual financial statements any more, as previously deemed mandatory by the Harper Gov. The “Disclosure Act” rescinded by the Minister of Indigenous Affairs, as of Dec 2015.
• Shouldn’t all citizens in Canada have access to free education, medical and dental too?
• Where will the Feds get the extra money? This will amount to millions of $$ and the Feds say they have no idea where this extra money will come from. Maybe from the spare CPP $$ is has NOT being collected, by life long contributors who have unfortunately passed on before they could collect.
• If the Feds are willing to recognize and support the above Canadian people and give them —-why can’t they do the very same for our VETS?
•
We have a reverse form of ‘apartheid’ in Canada. That makes it okay.
Don’t worry about where the money will come from. It’ll come from where it’s always come from. An increase in indebtedness. For that’s all ‘money’ really is. DEBT. It’ll never be ‘paid off’ ~ if it were, that much ‘money’ would simply disappear, and things that are priced in it couldn’t be sold for lack of ‘money’. When that happens we have ‘hard times’, and governments go into debt further to replace what they’ve just destroyed ~ the ‘money’. It was created ‘out of nothing’, and that’s what it will go back to when it’s repaid ~ ‘nothing’. Simple bookkeeping, debits and credits. Too bad WE don’t have a proper set of National Accounts that show all our actual ASSETS. All we see now is the increase in our LIABILITIES. Which we argue endlessly about, but are completely lost in finding a way to change without proper knowledge of what’s really going on financially.
The money sure won’t come from rich Canadians off shore tax haven accounts will it?
What I cant’t understand is why every town,city,municipality,province and this whole country is bending over for 4.3 % of the population???
Because, as we’ve been told over and over again, that’s the Canada we want back.
Wow. How to follow tactdogs post. I have to agree. So my post. Our favorite shop, on the hill, Wal Mart(14.69 BILLION net income)is now charging 5 cents a bag. Check your receipts. I was told that they went on a big publicity thing, and there signs all over the store. Needed an excuse to never shop there again, Bet the bags only cost 1 tenth of one cent. Hope this helps all of you that shop there. Bring your own bags.
shoppers drug mart has been doing it for some time now – 5 cents a bag. Save-on used to credit your bill if you brought your own bags but that stopped a long time ago.
allowing them entitlement to the same benefit as Treaty Indians.
correction to above.. NOT ALL Indians are TREATY INDIAN. Especially in BC.. There are only a few Treaties in BC
• Shouldn’t all citizens in Canada have access to free education, medical and dental too?
Correction to above… Indians do not ALL get FREE education. There is a long WAIT list at the Band Office and sometimes takes years to get to the top of list to be sponsored. Many students pay their own way through higher education. Just not enough funding given to Bands to send all to school
Same applies to Medical and dental. They only get the basic care and that is usually the cheapest cost for Indian Affairs and thats why those working take out the extended Health package to supplement it. They also take extra coverage when traveling out of the country
Non status Indians mean? Right now Non Status Indians do not receive “all” these benefits that Status Indians do.
Actually, non status aren’t afforded the same benefits as the status Indians
Don’t forget there are many non Indians who hold status cards because they married Native men and are afforded same benefits . But I believe this has changed based on discrimation because when Native women marry non Indians, the woman loses their Status as Indians
Hope this clarifies some misconceptions
The whole idea of classifying people by race turns me off completely. According to genetic science we all share the same common ancestors originating hundreds of thousands of years ago on the African continent. Can’t we just acknowledge that and treat each other with respect rather than by carry on with this discrimination?
Exactly. When people ask me what my background or race is, I usually reply with “Human being..”
I agree 100% with the above statement….that is why I believe ownership of land in any country belongs to the country not the 4.3% who throw in our faces that they were here first.
It all depends on what side of the fence you are on. If you were one of the people who were here first then you would be P.O’d if johnny-come-latelys showed up and took your land.
Munk Debate on Europe’s “refugee” crisis
ht tp://www.steynonline.com/7506/just-for-laughs-festival-toronto-branch
ht tp://www.steynonline.com/7501/live-in-melbourne
Makes for some very interesting reading, information that you will not see in our laundered mass media.
A huge apology to the truck driver involved in the logging truck rollover in the BCR site the other day. I freaked out in my post at the possibility that he could have killed someone but it turned out he was having a heart attack or something similar. Hopefully he will be okay and I wish him the best.
Note to Dan Hamhuis:
Retire from the NHL, come back to Prince George, and you can coach the Cougars along with Roman Volpat.
Hamhuis can coach?
It’s interesting/sad, that First Nations, Metis, and non-status all enjoy a life of privilege based on birthright, and yet, as a group, score lowest on pretty much every quality of life measure. Poverty, illness, suicide, addiction, the list goes on. So while we resent them their privilege based on birth, it appears it isn’t doing them a lot of good. In fact, their good friend the Supreme Court has pretty much ensured this cycle will never be broken by continually enshrining this privilege. No Government can ever do the one thing that will help the FN people break this viscous cycle. And that would be, to deem all people in Canada, as Canadians. Scrap the Indian Act, scrap the reserves, scrap the treaties, give a one time payment and transition them to the life all Canadians lead. The current FN population would curse us, the next one would thank us. But, the court will always be there to make sure these people never rise to the point where they can enjoy the life all non FN’s enjoy.
You may think the Supreme Court is your friend, but all they’ve managed to do, is keep the program the British outlined for you hundreds of years ago intact.
Yes that cultural genocide thingy as outlined in the 1949 declaration of indigenous rights and freedom that canada signed is so overrated . Tearing others down to build oneself up never works .
Terrible situation happening at the Attawapiskat reserve with the suicide rate.
I was wondering why this was happening and if it was a lack of funds to help them.
I have found the following……..
2800 members and of that 1500 live on the reserve…. according to 2011 census.
…..of that 100 work at the nearby De Beers mine.
In January 2011, DeBeers put 10.5 million in a trust fund to benefit all members of the Attawapiskat.
The latest financial statement for the Attawapiskat I could find is dated March 31/13. Federal funding expended to the band was about $35 million for the fiscal year 12/13. That is about $23,000 for each member on reserve.
Granted it is a remote reserve, it would be interesting to see how that $23,000 actually was spent and should it be increased, or has it been increased the last 2 years.
No no no you are not allowed to even question how the money is spent.
I have native friends with good jobs, nice houses and all the toys and they get rather upset about all this native woo is me business. Their attitude just get on with it, remember the history but move on. Then I also know a couple of native activists whose only employment if you can call it that, is activism. They know the system quite well.
Where is the rich hunger strike chief and her husband on this?
Good observations ImFrank.
Let me continue on with it.
The problem with Canada is we are pathologically altruistic. “Political correctness” ( did I spit those two words out with enough venom? ) trumps common sense.
The last government brought in an accountability law. They acknowledged flinging money at these people like throwing it in front of a swamp boat fan was getting us nowhere. The new sunny ways good hair cheek dimples social justice Prime Minister Twerp and his affirmative action government had to repeal that law. For some reason they felt asking where $ 35 million dollars a year for 2100 people is too intrusive and “racist”?
In other indigenous ( is that the feel good word today? ) groups, it’s been reported the culture is the chief and his family take all the money, live off the res in urban splendour, and suck up all the cash to drive $80,000.00 vehicles and live in downtown Toronto condos while the rest of the band is burning furniture in their firepits to stay warm in plywood huts. But far be it from us to challenge that! It’s untoward!
The suicide epidemic is awful, but all I hear is emotional speeches to fling more money at the boat fan.
How about accountability? Why not crack the books at these band offices where the cheque is being sent to? Where is accountability for home and structure building and improvements? Education? Recreational buildings and education? Infrastructure? Roads? Sewer? Investment in programs for trades and other vocational opportunities?
Where are the programs to help these folks and their kids rise up and enjoy the prosperity that other First Nations have seemed to sort out and embrace?
Where is all the money going????!!!!!
A few days ago I read that Attawapiskat received almost $1,000,000,000.00 over the past 10 years!
That’s almost $1 BILLION!
That’s almost $100,000,000.00 per year!
Almost ONE HUNDRED MILLIONS DOLLARS per years!
For a community of just of 2,000 people!
People living in poverty, in mouldy homes, without clean water, etc.
And we are not supposed to ask where the money went?
Source or it didn’t happen.
I have noticed in my almost seven decades that those that are overly concerned with other peoples money and or posessions , generally don’t have much of their own . And the biggest losers are alway quick to criticize the biggest winners in life . The secret to a happy life is to be grateful . Am I ever happy and grateful . Thank you canada !
Don’t tell me, yer first names Common and yer last name is Sense.
Well spoken, well said, but people hate the truth!
Ask any shrink, people love to be negative.
Good one.
Cheers
Right. We can’t be critical when one person has more money than God and another is living in a cardboard box under a bridge.
Alec Tsang works as a senior technology analyst at BC Hydro, where he’s the public utilities point person on electric cars.
Tsang said they started looking at the electricity systems needed to handle the increased load because of electric cars, as early as 2007.
One study by the University of Victoria Pacific Institute for Climate Solutions found that even in winter, when electricity demand is highest, BC had the unused capacity on it grid to charge nearly 2.4 million light-duty vehicles–almost all the 2.8 million registered vehicles in the province.
He goes on to say “Even the most optimistic projections of electric vehicle adoption still represent a really gradual load growth on utilities grids,” “So in terms of generation and transmission, that large perspective, most utilities wouldn’t have any problem meeting that demand”
Hydro Quebec basically came up with the same answers.
The main reason for not needing additional power supply is that most of these cars will be plugged in at night when power usage is at its lowest.
So,
1. No need for extra power for electric cars.
2. No need for extra power for LNG plants because they generate their own electricity.
3. Canada’s population will start to decline by 2029, so we have no big increase in population growth.
4. No big projects planned for BC in the near to long term, that would require lots of electricity.
So, tell me again, why we need Site C?????
It’s this decade’s equivalent of the 2010 Winter Olympics. It puts ‘new money’ into our economy NOW. This ‘new money’ allows the rate of overall business profits to be maintained, perhaps even rise briefly, while it’s being distributed. Business profits need to be maintained to repay existing bank loans as originally contracted ~ in accounting, the principal of every loan isn’t classed as ‘revenue’ when received, nor will it be classed as ‘expenditure’ as it’s repaid. Since a lot of bank financing is incurred to increase ‘efficiency’ in the expectations it will lower (labor, mostly) costs, it leads to the increased displacement of labor, and labor incomes. As these incomes fall (taken overall), spending from them also falls. This decreases the rate of business profit overall as a percentage of business sales. When existing loans can’t be fully repaid, the credit tap is turned off. The economy spirals downward. Those businesses that survive have to keep getting bigger and bigger. In the end, even that won’t save them. To make it seem that this is not happening, governments look for mega-projects. They put needed new credit into the economy and mask what is really happening. The ‘day of reckoning’ is pushed into the future ~ but it doesn’t go away, it’s out there, all that additional debt, and the only solution governments can see at present to deal with it is to dream up another mega-project. Or have a war. Doesn’t have to be that way, but no one seems to want to look at changing it.
One thing for those on the right to ponder when we vote for supposedly ‘conservative’ governments is Lenin’s statement that the middle class would be ground to a pulp between the two grindstones of ‘inflation’ and ‘taxation’, and a communistic society would emerge. We should be able to counter that if we truly believe in conservative principles ~ but it seems to me all those we elect to governments of the right are doing is trying to DELAY it, as if it were inevitable. Without a viable alternative we’re fighting a losing war, for we’re getting the SAME policy imposed on us the left would impose, only slower. We’re not ever going to find that viable alternative until we begin to realise how the ‘money’ system ACTUALLY works, and what needs to change within it.
So, tell me again, why we need Site C????? How else is a pro private industry government going to take money out of a publicly owned corperation and hand it over to the private sector ? Geez . Did ya just fall off the turnip truck ?
This, in a sense, is exactly what they’re doing. Only I doubt you have the slightest conception of just how.
Well , that’s all you have is doubt . And it’s not in a sense . That’s exactly what they are doing and they’re doing it on spec . Ballsy eh ?
Only 49 comments? No wonder, reading them I can see this Friday Free-For-All started off bad and then got worse. Nothing like starting it off with negative comments and then having it morph into racist rants against natives.
Maybe next week we can have some people other than the KKK of the north contribute comments here, who knows maybe it will get to 100 comments again… because no one should blame the many who stayed away from the garbage posted on here this week.
Actually it’s just a matter of nothing I’m interested in commenting on. I would have commented on those racist rants against natives, but I couldn’t find them. Guess you were referring to some other website.
Ataloss. If that’s what is happening, what are you doing about it.???
Let me guess. Hmmmmmm Nothing.
The only thing Conservatives care about is extracting what little piece of their own productivity that workers manage to retain and return it to who Cons think the rightful owners are: owners of Capital.
JGalt is a typical left winger. In this day and age just bringing up a common sense question, albeit a tough question, makes these peoples heads explode and they immediately throw around the race card and Saul Alinsky tactics.
Nowadays newspapers and even this site hide or close the comments on FN related issues because everything is construed racist if it is dissenting.
As a famous Rush song lyric goes…
“Conform or be cast out…”
My post above was certainly not racist. I have empathy for these people and I am angry their leadership fails them and our leadership empowers their leadership to continue to fail them by just flinging money at them and refusing to ask the tough questions or install checks and balances.
I ask one more time. Why is it racist to ask for accountability for our money thrown at 4 per cent of our population?
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