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Friday Free for All – Sept. 16, 2016

Friday, September 16, 2016 @ 12:00 AM

Another week has come to a close and that means it’s time for the Friday Free for All.

You pick the topic, but obey the simple rules:

Keep it clean

Keep it legal

No bullying.


I saw gas back down at 99.9. Glad to see it, but is there a reason or do they just vary the price randomly?

    Bill, there seems to be no rhyme nor reason to these (mostly) increases in both gasoline or natural gas. FortisBC is raising its natural gas rates nearly 80%, yet the world wide price of natural gas is near historic lows.

    I wish I could say gasoline and other fossil fuel prices are based on supply and demand economics, but that does not seem to be the case anymore. In my opinion.

    They put it up 10 cents because the long weekend was coming and they would love to have left it up but since they had to compete with Costco, they brought it back down. Expect the next price spike shortly before Thanksgiving long weekend.

Hmmm… something’s been bothering me for a couple of weeks now. Does anyone remember the news headlines a few weeks back about Federal Environment Minister; Catherine McKenna spending a few thousand dollars on photography? My research turned up $6,600 spent during one trip to Europe, while another source quoted a running total of $17,000 being spent by her for photographic services since being elected.

I remember the outrage from some of the Conservatives on this site, an outrage reflected in some of their comments in the August 26th Friday-free-for-all. I remember Dirtman and Hart Guy specifically being particularly outraged.

Yet the very next week, when news leaks out about Christy Clark spending almost $1 Million dollars on photography, there was nothing, no reaction, no outrage. This puzzles me, is there a double standard being applied here? Perhaps this is more about selective ignorance, or being willfully blind?

ht tp://theprovince.com/opinion/columnists/mike-smyth-premier-clark-has-spent-nearly-1-million-on-photography

    It was a thousand bucks on photography the rest was trying to make her look like someone who could attract votes from middle aged white men.

      ahahhahhah sooo funny..

      Seems to have worked on someone:

      Posted on Friday, April 22, 2016 @ 3:57 PM by Arnold Schwarzenegger with a score of 0

      My god she is sexy. We have a total babe for a Premier

      Where is this government’s priorities, getting middle age white men like Arnold Schwarzenegger all hot and bothered? A million fricken dollars, could have been spent on something more important than pictures.

    Your memory is somewhat faulty. Actually it was 6,600 Euros paid to a French photographer which converts to $10,681C.

    And while I am a conservative, I am not now nor have I ever been a Conservative.

    Neither did I post anything that would indicate in the least that I was outraged. I posted one short message that it had been done and a couple more correcting those who got the amount wrong. Yes I do strongly disapprove of such waste of taxpayers money but my purpose in mentioning it was to bring to public attention, something the mainstream media ignores while being outraged at similar Conservative waste. As far as I’m concerned, such photographs should be paid for by the party because they’re used for partisan political purposes.

    As for Christy Clark, there was no reaction from me because until now I hadn’t heard of it. Since you’ve brought it to my attention, yes I disapprove just as much.

    As for outrage, no I’m not outraged by that any more than I was by MacKenna. Disapproval does not equal outrage. However I am outraged by the almost 400 delegates who travelled to that gab-fest in Paris (while telling the rest of us to quit travelling so much) whose real purpose was to overthrow the capitalist economies of the world and begin the implementation of a UN controlled world wide socialist government.

      “UN controlled world socialist government”

      I don’t know what planet you are living on, but this one is moving in exactly the opposite direction to the one you are describing. It is moving toward a corporate world state, which is as far from socialism as it can get. Unless, of course, you meant the world government being implemented is a National Socialist one. Then you might actually be getting close to being accurate.

      Dirtman, google “$6,600 spent on photography”, you will find multiple news sources who published that as being the amount. If you feel the amount is in error, I would suggest you contact the CBC, The Star, The Globe and Mail and others who published those stories. Perhaps they did not verified the facts before going to print, or posting to their websites?

      JGalt, I know $6,600 was widely reported but then was corrected, then corrected again. What’s the actual amount?

      quote – McKenna’s office initially reported the cost as $6,662, then told CTV News the amount was actually reported in Euros, so was worth $10,681. On Tuesday, McKenna said the cost had been reported correctly the first time and the $6,662 figure was the actual cost. – unquote

      An improper waste of our money whatever the amount, if they want pictures they can get one of their multiple buddies to do it like the rest of us do or hire a photographer on their own.

      Oops, forgot link.

      ht tp://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/feds-spent-6-662-on-photos-of-catherine-mckenna-and-her-staff-during-paris-climate-change-talks-1.3039601

      Hahaha, it would seem you’re unaware of what’s happening on this planet. Never heard of “Agenda 21”? Sounds like a conspiracy theory, doesn’t it? I dismissed it as such when I first heard of it but it isn’t, it’s real and they don’t try to hide it, they brag about it. It’s called Agenda 21 because it’s the UN’s agenda for the 21st century. They are working toward the UN being a one-world government with themselves in charge. Nations will keep their governments but will cede much of their sovereignty and authority to the UN according to their plan. And the global warming scam is a major part of their tactics to achieve that end.

      “The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” – H. L. Mencken

      “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?” – Canadian Maurice Strong, head of the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro and Executive Officer for Reform in the Office of the Secretary General of the United Nations.

      “the Kyoto Protocol is “the first component of an authentic global governance”. Jacques Chirac, former president of France.

      “Kyoto was about hobbling America’s economy, to give socialist Europe a fighting chance”. Margaret Wallstrom, vice president of EU communications

      “We are setting ourselves the task of intentionally to change [sic] the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years” – the free enterprise capitalist system. “The next world climate summit is actually an economic summit, during which the distribution of the world’s resources will be negotiated,” – Former executive secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change Christiana Figueres prior to the Paris gathering.
      “We will redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy.” – her UN climate crisis cohort Otmar Edendorfer added.

To the lady in the blue mustang with lightly smoked Windows… I really hope the reason you where driving while chatting on your cell phone was more important than anyone else’s lives. I did try to get your attention but you where oblivious to your surroundings….

    Wow, and thus begins another Friday-free-for-all where the main subject topic yet again is directed to driving habits, or road conditions… yawn! Just remember, keep right except to pass everyone!

      no worse than government employees spending.

      And so it begins….another day, another JGaltathon….you go Alias.

      Distracted driving now kills more people than drunk drivers so is a worthy topic.

As entertaining as it was to watch it was also a sobering reminder that way too many people should not be driving.

Intersection of 5th and the bypass construction to put in new turning lane. Had 4 flag persons doing traffic control as the lights were turned off. The flag persons gave in my opinion clear and concise hand signals in conjunction with their hand held stop signs to drivers yet a good many of the drivers I would not trust To be safe could not understand basic hand signals and the flag persons were continually shouting at the drivers to stop, go and turn who then in turn became flustered with some yelling others giving various hand signals to the flag persons and others could not decide whether to stop or go.

It wasn’t just a few drivers either in the 15 or so minutes I was waiting to turn almost every time the flag people stopped or moved the traffic several drivers could not figure out what to do.

In my not so humble opinion all drivers should be forced to go back for driver refresher training periodically because what I saw made me cringe. This ladies and gentlemen is the drivers were share the road with every day you may think your a good driver but are you really? I know I’m a decent driver but I know my flaws too do you?

    Yeah, pretty scary, isn’t it? Perhaps there should be some psychological testing along with skill and knowledge testing for drivers licenses.

    No wonder some companies see a huge market for self driving cars.

    Anyway, do your best to stay safe this weekend and enjoy the weather while you can. Soon it will be different.

    Yup, I was there too! Witnessed someone in a little white car deciding it was ‘her turn’ and ignored the flag person’s directions. She popped out in the turn lane to go down 5th Ave. Near miss/hit in the intersection. GAH!!!!

    Here is one from the other side of that equation. I’m driving down 5th avenue. There is some work being on an intersection near the dental building there. A flagger is there dawdling and chit chatting with someone on the side of the road. A woman with a baby stroller is about to step off the curb. I wasn’t sure whether she was going to cross 5th or the side street, so I start slowing to a stop. She steps off the curb and starts crossing the side street, parallel to my direction of travel. Meanwhile, the “trained” flagger, who had been standing idly the whole time, suddenly decides that she is going to “do her job” and walks out in front of me, nonchalantly swinging her sign over her shoulder. First she shows the yield side, then the stop side and then finally takes it off her shoulder and flicks to the stop side. This lasts for about 15 seconds, until the woman with the stroller crosses the side road, and then she saunters off to the side of the road.

    If I hadn’t already been at a speed low enough for me to come to a complete stop, I would have creamed her because she decided at the last second to play “good samaritan” to a person who didn’t even need it.

yess some people need to be better trained to drive. Like yesterday we heard sirens from behind us, so we pulled over to the side. then this blond female in front decides she should change lanes to go to inside lane and in process held up the cop car coming who had to revert to driving in and out of between vehicles

My bitch for the day is how sick and tired I am of virtually every thread being hijacked by JGalt and HartBoy for their own little pathetic childish rants at each other. Surely the moderators of this site can either tell these people to keep their rants on subject. A little tit-a-tat once in a while is almost amusing, but it is getting to the point of nausea now and pretty much has killed any enjoyment I had following the comment section.

    Totally agree Bent….it’s seems others are not entitled to their opinions…and it’s not just those two…there are a few others as well that have taken away the enjoyment of reading the comments…

      Hart Guy stalks my comments, how is that my fault? For that matter, my comments seem to attract the attention of a few on here, so what am I suppose to do about it?

      Some choose to challenge my comments, and wish to engage me in debate about my views, am I to simply slink away and remain silent? It is not every news story that I choose to comment on, most “local” news stories I do not… here is a suggestion, look for the news stories that have the most comments, and avoid reading them. Problem solved!

    Precisely! Too many comments made in response to their comments are immediately labelled as crying, whining or worse in the form of questioning the reasoning capacity of those who have a different opinion. All kinds of links are posted as if everything on the internet is the Gospel truth! On the internet one can find so-called support and evidence for one thing and the same kind of so-called support and evidence for the exact opposite! To rely on the agenda of others on the internet for intelligence is an intellectual pitfall!

    Independent thinking and tolerance make for a good exchange of ideas, with a good amount of respect and civility being absolutely necessary.

    Hard to find here, too bad!

      Best post I’ve read in quite some time. Thank you.

      This coming from someone who has tried to engaged me in debate in the past, and came up short… sorry your feelings, and ego, got hurt PrinceGeorge. Speaking of which, being part of my groupie fan club, following me around and constantly trying to challenge my comments and engage me in debate… are you not part of the problem?

      I have my place on here, and I will continue to research and post my comments, do the rest of us a favour and simply ignore my comments and stop adding to the chatter!

      JGalt, you certainly are taking great delight in twisting reality around until it satisfies your ego which is addicted to mean mouthing others! You are incapable of civility!

      I use 250News for information of local and provincial importance! I often comment and give my opinion about certain issues raised by various people.

      You can rest assured that your assaults on me are history as I will not comment on your stuff in the future! Ignoring you is the best solution and you will be better off!

      I know that you will also try to make hay with this very last response to your latest *stuff* but such is the mission of internet trolls!

      JGalt likes being ignorant. He refuses to read links that others post in opposition to his claims. Why would he do that? One can only imagine it’s because he isn’t sure that his position is factual and is afraid to actually see evidence that he’s wrong. This is called willful ignorance.

    Well if you’re so upset by the content here Bent, the simple solution is to not come here any more. It’s the Friday FREE FOR ALL (not shouting, just emphasising). Ponder the meaning of that.

      I think that is the point, it is a free for all and everyone’s opinion, even if we don’t like it should be respected and some people go out of their way to condemn others or use personal attacks because they have nothing to say otherwise.

      Completely agree with your comment bcracer!

      “Couldn’t agree more! Sure, every one has the right to express one’s own opinion, but no one has the right to bully and attack others for doing so!

      “You pick the topic, but obey the simple rules:

      Keep it clean

      Keep it legal

      No bullying.”


      The missing ingredienst:

      No character assassination. No name calling. No disrespect.

      You lasted 6 minutes, then looked for my comment and posted your insinuating comment immediately after it; that is called “stalking behaviour” good luck breaking free of your obsession! You and Hart Guy should get togeather.

      Actually, he responded to my post.

      Thank you Dirtman! I responded to your comment! Obviously somebody is still feeling super important, even when left out of the loop! Thanks!

      Compliments from one of the fringe conspiracy theorists, they don’t like me so you have some new friends now!

    Bent, for you…

    “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it” Evelyn Beatrice Hall

If you have or know of any first responders in your life take the time to tell them just how appreciated they are. Paramedics, police, and firefighters see the absolute worst that society has to offer and they deal with the strain of that every day.

    You’re welcome.

I was reading on another on-line news site this morning that the up-coming “Ice Age On Ice” Tour has been cancelled. Has anyone else heard this.

    It was cancelled. All the ice is melting. “global Warming”

    yes it was online on this site Wednesday, September 14, 2016.
    It was also on our local newspaper site as well and in their flyer package.
    They didn’t say why , just that the entire North American tour has been postponed due to “unforeseen circumstances”
    Bummer, but things happen I guess.

yes Ice Age on Ice has been cancelled due to “unforeseen circumstances”. Opinion250 had an article the other day on it…go back and look. Full refunds are being offered and the method of return will vary according to how you purchased your tickets. Ticketmaster sent me an email that stated that I should expect credit card refund within 7-10 business days.

    Unforeseen Circumstances = crappy ticket sales. It wasn’t even a decent movie. How they could justify it into a goofy skating show is beyond me.

MINNEAPOLIS (The Borowitz Report)—Scientists have discovered a powerful new strain of fact-resistant humans who are threatening the ability of Earth to sustain life, a sobering new study reports.

The research, conducted by the University of Minnesota, identifies a virulent strain of humans who are virtually immune to any form of verifiable knowledge, leaving scientists at a loss as to how to combat them.

“These humans appear to have all the faculties necessary to receive and process information,” Davis Logsdon, one of the scientists who contributed to the study, said. “And yet, somehow, they have developed defenses that, for all intents and purposes, have rendered those faculties totally inactive.”

More worryingly, Logsdon said, “As facts have multiplied, their defenses against those facts have only grown more powerful.”

While scientists have no clear understanding of the mechanisms that prevent the fact-resistant humans from absorbing data, they theorize that the strain may have developed the ability to intercept and discard information en route from the auditory nerve to the brain. “The normal functions of human consciousness have been completely nullified,” Logsdon said.

While reaffirming the gloomy assessments of the study, Logsdon held out hope that the threat of fact-resistant humans could be mitigated in the future. “Our research is very preliminary, but it’s possible that they will become more receptive to facts once they are in an environment without food, water, or oxygen,” he said.

    Well that would explain all the people who believe in climate change doomsday scenarios despite all the scientific evidence to the contrary.

      I think climate change is happening, but not for the reasons that all these doomsayer scientists are using , not totally anyways.
      if is was only something we humans were doing, pollution ( and it probably has a very small effect), then they could do something to fix it, but since it is totally beyond we humans being able to reverse or change the governments the taxes it .

    Nice essay by the Borowitz Report! The evidence of climate change is all around us! The climate is changing! Nobody in their right minds can deny it! What is mankind’s contribution to climate change?

    That is the question that scientists have been trying to answer, scientists who work at top universities and who will not take a position unless it is based on verifiable facts and established practices! Not only the reputation of their institution is at risk but also their own personal reputation!

    So when they come out by the thousands and agree that mankind’s contribution is very considerable and may be the straw that breaks the camel’s back if allowed to continue we ought to pay attention and not ridicule for whatever reasons.

    Many interest groups are spreading misinformation to protect their investments and future profits. They must be weighed against scientific evidence and not by the motivation for profit at all costs, including the risk of putting the long term existence of humans on this planet in jeopardy!

      “Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus…”
      – Michael Crichton, A.B. Anthropology, M.D. Harvard

      ht tp://www.petitionproject.org/

      Actually you have it backwards. Yes climate change is real, has been occurring for millennia. Fact is there is no virifible scientific evidense man’s contribution to climate dispite hundreds of billions spent. Heck they don’t even understand the natural causes let alone man’s miniscule contribution. Oh and if some scientist goes against the money making consensus, his job is under threat.

    Baaaa Haaa, Ataloss, that was one very funny and somewhat accurate comment! We have a few of those fact-resistant humans on here, and most of us know who they are.

    One of the best comments I have had the pleasure to read on here in quite sometime! Thank you for posting it.

      It was a retweet by Elon musk whom I follow on Twitter . That’s how I caught it . Very funny but sadly true . I was certain that one or more or all of them would twist it to reaffirm there twisted reality . So far only one . Must be underachievers day off . Speaking of overachievers amongst us , Elon is building the largest stationary battery in the world in Los Angeles . 80 MW . The first of many such batteries in the pipe line . This is another nail in the coffin of christys SiteC market dreams . 18 million people in LA won’t need our power .

      “There has never in human history been a greater disconnect between the basic science and what is going on…it is absolutely astonishing, the disjunct between the politics and the socio-economics and the green agenda with the empirical science”


      “Attempting to stop climate change is an expensive act of utter futility, you might as well try to stop the clouds scudding across the sky, in fact that’s exactly what you’re doing”

      Dr. Bob Carter, geologist at James Cook University, Cambridge, Australia, engaged in paleoclimate research

      ht tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI

    Coming from you atlos, that’s incredibly rich.

    I disagree bcracer . It’s us . All one needs is to look at the historical carbon records , some simple math measuring tonnages burned for the last two hundred years and bingo ! It’s us . But , who cares ? The fossil burners are meeting their match . The golden cross is happening around the world . Renewables are becoming cheaper than the cost of delivery in places around the world and that’s not going to abate for a long time to come .

      Ataloss, these is a very exciting article in Bloomberg on the future of Oil and Gas… there isn’t any. It has a very good video that lays out the future of fossil fuels and alternative energy.

      “Since 2008, the single most important force in U.S. power markets has been the abundance of cheap natural gas brought about by fracking. Cheap gas has ravaged the U.S. coal industry and inspired talk of a “bridge fuel” that moves the world from coal to renewable energy. It doesn’t look like that’s going to happen.”

      “The costs of wind and solar power are falling too quickly for gas ever to dominate on a global scale, according to BNEF. The analysts reduced their long-term forecasts for coal and natural gas prices by a third for this year’s report, but even rock-bottom prices won’t be enough to derail a rapid global transition toward renewable energy.”

      ht tp://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-13/we-ve-almost-reached-peak-fossil-fuels-for-electricity

      Yeah, right!


      Why Venture Capitalists Abandoned Clean Energy

      Two experts say high costs and low returns sent venture capitalists fleeing. A new funding model, they say, is crucial.

      A decade ago, clean-energy companies were the hot trend that venture capitalists were chasing. Oil and natural-gas prices were on the rise and Al Gore’s “An Inconvenient Truth” had just made its premiere.

      But high hopes that the clean-energy sector would replicate the big returns of biomedical and software startups quickly faded. Instead, monumental losses piled up: Venture-capital investors lost more than half of the $25 billion they pumped into clean-energy technology startups from 2006 to 2011.

      ht tp://www.wsj.com/articles/why-venture-capitalists-abandoned-clean-energy-1473818402

      Yes JG . It’s about money . The fossils have reached their level of thermodynamic efficiency and renewables have yet to reach theirs . Anyone that bets against the ingenuity of humanity is an underachiever .

      Since you’re so enthusiastic about renewables, Ataloss, perhaps this is the time for you to finally inform us all just how solar panels keep producing energy when the sun isn’t shining, thus eliminating the need for base-load back-up generation.

      We await your revelation with bated breath.

I would like to comment on the accident involving school bus on highway 97 yesterday. How scary for all involved. So glad no loss of life or life threatening injuries. I really think it is dangerous to have school buses stopping on highways. Our highways have become way too busy. Yes there was driver errors but the potential for serious accidents is too great. I think there should be designated bus stops where the bus can pull off the highways. There is just more and more traffic on the highways and our highway structures have fallen behind.
That highway north is really bad. Going north one passing lane at Salmon valley then not another one until Mackenzie junction. Coming from the other direction not many passing lanes either. It’s time for changes.

    There was a crash between a school bus and a car west of Edmonton today, the bus overturned with about 34 kids on board. A number of the kids were taken to hospital with injuries. Scary stuff.

Another car crash this morning at 9:30 on 10th Ave and highway 97.

One of the ongoing policy themes of the Trudeau government is a supposed focus on youth. As well, most analysts attribute in part the majority election of the federal Liberals in 2015 to a higher-than-usual voting participation rate of younger Canadians, most of whom voted Liberal. Yet despite this superficial “youthful” orientation of the government, many of its key policies will in fact have very negative implications for young Canadians.


So beware, young Canadians. All the glitzy White House dinners and Vogue articles in the world won’t help you pay off the future tax obligations being accumulated in your name by this government. You might want to consider that next time you go to the ballot box. Many commentators have noted in recent years that millennials, those born between 1982 and 2004, could be the first generation in many decades to be worse off than their parents. The types of policies being implemented by the Trudeau government will pretty much guarantee that outcome.

ht tp://business.financialpost.com/fp-comment/​trudeau-vs-canadas-youth​-young-canadians-are-the-big-losers-under-liberal-government

    Dirtman, do you think that this demographic will care or will they be too stoned on legal marijuana to care?

      They’ll care when they have to pony up the cash at the same time the government is forced to cut services because they can’t tax any more and they can’t borrow any more.

    That is a write-up by the Financial Post! Not to worry, go on the internet and other financial experts will say the exact opposite, for instance the CEO of the World Monetary Fund who just recently congratulated Canada for spending money and going into deficits at just the right time!

    The Financial Post is obviously biased, because it does not seem to mind that the nine annual deficits by the OTHER previous government virtually eliminated ALL the progress that had been made on paying down some of the debt!

    You see, when you read:”… being accumulated in your name by this government” you can see the bias in “this” government instead of the government. i.e. any government!

      PrinceGeorge, here’s another interesting article from yesterday regarding comments made by the IMF’s managing director Christine Lagarde:

      “Her desire to see Liberal policies “go viral” was interpreted as a major endorsement of Trudeau’s deficit-financed stimulus spending. Debts and deficits are now seemingly the rage.

      Yet the IMF’s confidence in fiscal policy has been misplaced before. Its Keynesian predisposition was proven spectacularly wrong by the positive economic effects of the United Kingdom’s “austerity” program. The Canadian government should therefore heed Lagarde’s policy advice with real caution.

      The lessons from the United Kingdom are salutary in this regard. The country is better off that the Cameron government chose to ignore the IMF’s calls for more spending, deficits and debt.”

      More from the article:

      “And the IMF had to admit it was wrong. As Lagarde conceded in 2014: “We got it wrong. We acknowledged it. Clearly the confidence building that has resulted from the economic policies adopted by the government has surprised many of us.”

      Obviously the United Kingdom was far better off by ignoring the advice of the IMF! I suspect that Canada would do well to do the same!

      ht tp://business.financialpost.com/fp-comment/christine-lagarde-gives-trudeau-just-the-spectacularly-bad-advice-he-wanted-to-hear

      If spending money was the answer pg,Ontario will be an economic power house. It all depends on what you spend it on.Going into debt so you can send 4 billion overseas isn’t it. Keysian economics does not work.

    So you’re OK with governments spending us into the poorhouse, PrinceGeorge? Yes the Conservatives had deficits but at least they tried to get back to responsible government spending, something that’s very difficult to do in a democracy when your opposition promises to open the purse strings and spend, spend, spend. Like Trudeau and Mulcair did.

    But fiscal reality will assert itself eventually.

    “The report, acquired by the Ottawa Citizen’s Kathryn May, is exactly what Justin Trudeau’s Liberals didn’t want to hear. It confirms all the problems the Conservatives tried to address, and were trashed for. It offers remedies that are even starker than the Tories introduced. It underlines the huge cost of not acting, and the enormous savings to be had from showing some leadership. It also carries the prospect of open war with the Canadian Union of Postal Workers, which thinks that worrying about the cost of an obsolete service is all a load of hooey.”

    ht tp://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/kelly-mcparland-post-office-task-force-report-tells-the-liberals-precisely-what-they-didnt-want-to-hear

      Dirtman, thanks for posting about this report!

      The Conservative government was lambasted for it’s attempts to address problems at Canada Post!

      And now, a task force report prepared for Justin and Co. basically supports everything that the Conservatives were doing and the Liberals were condemning!

      This is deja in action as it brings to mind the Parliamentary Budget Officer’s report that Justin and Co. ordered, the one that they ignored because it confirmed that the Conservatives did, in FACT, leave office while in a budgetary surplus position!

On November 18, 1911 the members of the Fort George Band received the first payment for the surrender of their reserve rights.  There were 124 people in 42 families living at the Fort George village.  Each person received $205 each, received by the head of the house.  They would receive an equal final payment when the village was vacated.  The first problem in the move occurred when the D.I.A. official in charge of arranging a contract to build new houses at the new reserve stipulated impossibly luxurious houses.  The request for- bid  included full concrete basements, solid oak doors and weight balanced sash windows.  How would you produce enough mixed cement to build a subdivision without a gravel pit, cement power or equipment to mix it?  The next problem was that there was only 29 houses at Fort George Village.  So this is what the I.A.D. planned to replace.  But each family had been promised a new house.  There were 42 families living in 29 houses but now each family would have its own house.  They could choose which reserve to live on.  Chiefs Cabin or Goose River.  Four families choose Chiefs Cabin and 38 choose Goose River.  By Sept 1, 20 houses were built  at Shelly (Goose River) and by mid-Sept 6 were in place at the Nechako reserve (Chiefs cabin).  The contractor that built the houses was Messrs, Brewer and Flynn Contracting.  They had a permanent crew but hired 50 more men for the job.  Some of the new hires were from Fort George Reserve. 
The next problem came in 1912.  It was caused by the hunting and trapping practises of the band. They had trapped most of the beaver in the area and the same for bear.  The hunting and trapping season was closed that year.  The salmon run also failed that year. These three things were the main source of food and trade for the Village.  It was  a crisis that is hard for us to fully understand.  But there was a real probability of death from lack of food.  Chief  Qua demanded the final payment even though the village hadn’t moved. The G.T.P. Officers were reluctant to pay until the move was completed.  A rail road employee intervened to ask that the payment be made because he said he couldn’t stand by while people were starving.  So the final payment was made Nov. 12, 1912.
When moving day came W.J. MacAllan  hired the steamer Quesnelle for the move.  When the boat arrived at Fort George, MacAllan gave moving instructions and tried to give out the keys to the new houses. The villagers said they had changed their minds and they didn’t want to move.  If you sold a house, took the money, spent it and waited four years would the new owners let you change your mind?  MacAllan spent a bad night thinking of how to resolve the problem.  In the morning he went to the G.T.P. engineer, Mr. Gill,  with a plan.  There were  two old shacks that were vacant at the far north end of the village.  MacAllan had talked to the occupants three months earlier before they went on a long hunting trip and told them to take all there possession because their houses would be burned down before they came home.  He asked Mr. Gill to wait 1/2 hour and then to burn one of the shacks.  MacAllan then went to the Johnston Hotel in South Fort George and sat in front and waited.  From the time he saw the smoke from the burning shack it only took two minutes for people from the village to rush up to him asking that he stop the rail road workers from burning the village. He waited in silence until every one stopped talking.  Then he said the G.T.P. owned the houses and could do what ever they liked with them.  He agreed that no more houses would be burned down if the people would move their belongings to the river bank for loading the next day.  The move was completed the next day. 

Does anyone know why there were countless police cars and fire rescue vehicles in the BCR site yesterday evening?

    You question was posted over an hour ago, so I guess I will answer it, if that is OK with Bent and PrinceGeorge.

    A 46 year old woman was hit by a train the other night, 250news had a story on it the other day.

      wrong answer.The accident with the woman was on 1st avenue on monday night not in the bcr yesterday.

      Thank you for proving my point made earlier in this Friday-free-for-all. willyj asked a question which remained unanswered for an hour and 15 minutes, I replied and almost immediately got your feedback to my comment within 13 minutes… how is that my fault? My comments attract attention, what am I suppose to do about it?

      She was not struck by a train, she was passed out on the tracks.

      She laid under the first set of trucks on the head end of a train.

      Could have been more serious if the crew did not respond as they did.

Wal-Mart — Charging 5 cents per bag.
BRING your own BAGS.

    Better yet, shop elsewhere.

Any GOOD German type Oktoberfest Events Happening around PG this year ?

    This is the five hundred year anniversary of the German purity law of 1516 allowing only four ingredients to be used for brewing beer . Water , malt , hops and yeast .

      Mmmm… BEER!

      ht tp://tinyurl.com/jpq9hbw

      Yes it is indeed a great anniversary! It is amazing how they resisted the adulteration of beer brewing with all kinds of additives like others are doing! It turned their beer brewing into a science with experimentation of various kinds of malts, hops and yeasts. Certain German beers are brewed only during special times of the year when the ingredients are at their peak of maturity and flavour.

      A law that partly has passed it’s due date & usefulness. Until the relatively recent advent of the craft beer market, beer creativity (& sales) had become stale. Yes purity & freshness of ingredients is paramount but the same old lager, ale & beer recipes were just not working. New ideas & a bit of ingenuity from some cutting edge brewers has resulted in some amazing brews. It’s no coincidence that craft brewers are consistently garnering rave reviews, major awards & an ever growing share in the beer market.

      I’ve been to Germany and tasted some mighty fine beers. I’ve also tasted some of the Canadian Craft brews and sorry, just don’t like them.

For those that have been sqwawking about the increase in the Natural Gas commodity charge that Fortis just got approved…you should check the current markets.
Natural Gas for delivery in October is going for $2.95USD or or just under $3.88 Canadian. (As per BNN 2 minutes ago)
If this is the world commodity price for Natural Gas, how can the approved increase to $2.05 Canadian be considered gouging by anyone??
On the contrary I would suggest that because Fortis has been able to buy gas ahead of the market they are able to soften the blow of increased market prices for their customers.

    So the price of natural gas has climbed up from a 10 year low, but is still at a price among the lowest it has been in 10 years and you say that is what justifies an 80% increase in the price of that commodity?


    It take a 10 year view of the price of natural gas to put its current price into context!

      Jgalt how do you feel about the taxes?

A human interest story from the past. Whatever happened to Herbie?

Hahaha, dirtman gave a factual response to your post regarding the UN, any resoponse?

    I’ve heard of agenda21. It is what all the nut bar right wingers refer to in their mindless conspiracy theories. It’s a smokescreen. The UN is toothless, because the major powers all hold veto power. UN power is non-existent. On the other hand, Corporate power, via transnationals, is very real. They have been calling the shots for the last 30 years, pulling the strings of their political puppets, to ensure that numerous corporate bills of rights, disguised as “free trade” agreements, get passed into law.

    We are moving toward corporate hegemony and National Socialism, not UN controlled Socialism.

      You’re in denial. I originally thought Agenda 21 was a nut-bar conspiracy theory but it isn’t. You could look it up. But you won’t, will you? Because you don’t want it to be real.

      Despite being toothless, it’s the UN that’s behind the global warming scam, that’s convinced governments of western capitalist economies to implement carbon taxes to hamper their economies while allowing the rest of the world to emit all they want with no penalties. It’s the UN who has convinced the foolish western capitalist governments to agree to give $100 billion US per year to “developing” nations. Their tentacles are everywhere and insidious, and fools like you are helping them along in their agenda.

      The only one in denial is you. I have looked it up and it is nonsense. The UN cannot implement or convince Western governments to do anything that they haven’t already decided to do on their own.

      There is no worldwide Socialist state being instituted. There is a burgeoning neo-fascist Corporatocracy being constructed as we speak. They have useful idiots like you to distract people from what is really going on by trying to deflect attention to some nonsensical UN sponsored Socialist state fantasy.

      Western governments giving money to developing nations is entirely self serving, since that money has to be spent.on western goods and services. The UN didn’t have to convince Western governments to give out money. They do it willingly on their own for the benefit of their corporate and banking masters. All that money has to be spent for the benefit of western corporations.

      Keep telling yourself that. They like that you refuse to face the truth.

You can take whatever view you want! Fortis delivers the gas to your door and they have to whatever the price is!
Simple economics, why would Fortis sell you gas for less than they have to pay for it?
If you can’t understand that as a simple concept, I would suggest that you go and do some reading about how business works!
To answer you question….YES the market price of Natural Gas DOES in fact justify the increase that the BC Utilities commission approved!

” They have to PAY whatever the price is”

Socredible, just wanted to say thanks for your informative posts on the minimum wage increase. Learn something new every day.

    Your very welcome, Grizzly2.

I really like the way the NDP Government in Alberta is responding to instances of institutional bigotry in private religious schools.

“Alberta’s education minister won’t rule out withholding provincial funding from two private religious schools that refuse to comply with a law giving students the right to form a gay-straight alliance.”

ht tp://tinyurl.com/zodjwcl

This is all quite progressive!

Ride along with a Tesla on a race track. It can really get up and move but not made for racing.

Car as tested costs US$136,720! Definitely a toy for the wealthy.

ht tps://www.yahoo.com/news/video-reminds-us-tesla-model-171404264.html

    A toy for the wealthy? To be more specific, a taxpayer subsidized toy for the wealthy!

    When the automobile was first invented it was a toy for the wealthy. Why would it be any different for any nascent technology today? Almost all new technology is only available to the well-heeled at the start.

      Very true. And it’s because of the capitalist system that we have enough of a wealthy class to buy those toys and that they then come down in price so the rest of us can afford them.

      But then, I didn’t say there was anything wrong with it being a toy for the wealthy, did I?

Well, this article from the Canadian Press today is interesting, interesting considering that the Liberal Party’s 2015 election platform explicitly promised to make “Statistics Canada fully independent”!

“StatsCan head quits, cites loss of independence”

OTTAWA — The Liberal government’s bid to rebuild bridges with Statistics Canada came crashing down Friday with the resignation of the chief statistician over concerns that federal information-technology arrangements are hobbling the agency.

Wayne Smith, Chief Statistician:

“All of you are aware of my view that this loss of independence and control is not only an apprehension, but an effective reality today, as Statistics Canada is increasingly hobbled in the delivery of its programs through disruptive, ineffective, slow and unaffordable supply of physical informatics services by Shared Services Canada,”

“I cannot lend my support to government initiatives that will purport to protect the independence of Statistics Canada when, in fact, that independence has never been more compromised. I do not wish to preside over the decline of what is still, but cannot remain in these circumstances, a world leading statistical office.”

ht tp://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/statscan-head-quits-cites-loss-of-independence-1.3075518

ht tps://www.pressprogress.ca/statistics_canada_head_resigns_accuses_trudeau_liberals_of_suppressing_independence

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