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Economy, Peacekeeping Top of Mind for Doherty as Parliament Resumes

Tuesday, September 20, 2016 @ 5:55 AM

Ottawa, ON – MP’s are back in Ottawa for the fall session of Parliament starting this week.

Cariboo-Prince George Conservative MP Todd Doherty says one of his biggest priorities revolves around the economy.

Cariboo-Prince George MP-elect Todd Doherty - 250News archive photo

Cariboo-Prince George MP-elect Todd Doherty – 250News archive photo

“We’re seeing unprecedented job losses right now and it’s even impacting us in our riding,” he says. “Oil and gas and forestry. We need to make sure we’re doing everything we can to get Canadians back to work to build our economy.”

Doherty says the federal government could help by approving pipelines and signing a new Softwood Lumber Agreement with the United States.

He notes the situation is becoming dire for some of his constituents.

“Overwhelming the calls to our office and the emails to us is really about ‘I’m not sure what I’m going to do to put food on my table. I need to get back to work.’ And that’s near and dear to my heart.”

Doherty says his party also plans to question the government on its plan to send peacekeepers into harms way.

He notes this shouldn’t be done to help appease the United Nations as a way to gain a security spot on the UN Council.

“We need to make sure we’re not putting our brave men and women in harms way, or if we’re going down that path, that parliamentarians and Canadians have a say.”

Comments

If he cares about Canadians and Canadian jobs then he should oppose CETA and TPP. These free trade agreements undermine our sovereignty to protect Canadian industry; and only serve to enable the monopoly capitalists of globalization who undermine small business and free enterprise… which are the real producers of Canadian jobs.

Yesss he can still put the pipelines where the sun don’;t shine.

As for forestry, quit inventing one man logging operations and instead get more people back in the forest with their saws

Get Canadian retail back instead of all the American box office. That takes away all our travel plans to hunt in another town for new merchandize and take family trips at the same time..

    Well, the logging industry has morphed into smaller operation because, we need to sell our lumber out of country. Thus need to compete in the world market. Yes, I agree that the for every 1000bf of lumber sold it needs to have x number of good paying jobs. Good paying jobs has to be at least 1.6 times the living wage.

    The problem with trying to chase out American box stores, is, we as Canadians tend to follow American trends, thus they have come into our retail market and trying to take profits back. If Canadians are so gung ho in protecting their market they should be a lot more aggressive, which we tend to ride on the big stores. The big stores, may sell a billion but really they likely take out ten million back to corporate, by the time they pay employees and taxes etc. That is why Target never made it. Walmart on the otherhand has been very successful, likely because they did it right. It is Walmart Canada, and entity of its own in Canada.

    The Canada that we had in the 80’s is long gone. Things changed when China came back onto mainstream world economy. I am not saying it is better, its a different stage setting.

ohhh quit feeding yer dogs steaks and then advertize about it when all the unfortunate are scrounging for food

Yeah lets just keep our heads in the sand and not send our troops to help out the UN. Instead we will just keep accepting refugees instead of addressing the root cause of why there are refugees in the first place.

Doherty states; “We’re seeing unprecedented job losses right now and it’s even impacting us in our riding,” he says. “Oil and gas and forestry.”

But then the Christy Clark Lib/Con political spin is “BC is enjoying unprecedented job growth”.

I guess there are times when even our right wing politicians will disagree with each other, so who is right here? What is the reality of the situation with jobs? The Stats Canada facts supports Doherty’s words and NOT the positive spin Christy Clark government. Just thought I would clear that bit of discrepancy up!

    Im more inclined to agrre with doherty on job loss then clark, it is hard to find a job as an apprentice right now because all the people with experience have had to find new jobs since alot of the forestry mining and oil/gas jobs have dried up.

    Christy lives in a fantasy world of her own making . The problem with her condition is that others can confuse her reality with reality itself . She has no shame .

      Problem is when you represent Stats Canada facts about the current economic “reality” and those facts contradicts their LIB/Con fantasy world point of view… these people tend to get cranky, no one knows this better than I.

    Christy is talking BC!!!!!

    Doherty is talking his riding which goes from PG to just past Williams Lake. It includes Quesnel which has a declining forest industry!!!!

    Real simple if one starts to think about it …. but oh so few people do really think about it, don’t they?

      Statistics Canada is also referring to “BC” losing jobs last month.

      “While employment in Canada increased by 26,000 jobs in August, British Columbia saw “a decrease of 6,600 jobs in the month, according to Statistics Canada data released September 9.”

      .biv.com/article/2016/9/bc-loses-jobs-august-unemployment-rate-remains-low/

      Statistics Canada figures for August back up what Doherty says; “We’re seeing unprecedented job losses right now and it’s “even” impacting us in our riding,” he says. “Oil and gas and forestry.”

      Wow… imagine that, me a “leftie” getting flack over “agreeing” with, and defending, what a local Conservative MP says.

      Strange days indeed!!!!

And yet the same publication you are quoting from had this to say about BC

“B.C.’s unemployment slipped in August following two months of hefty gains but momentum remained positive.

Employment fell 0.3% to a seasonally adjusted 2.39 million persons as a drop in part-time was partly offset by a 1.2% increase in full-time counts. B.C.’s jobless rate eased to 5.5%, to mark a third straight monthly decline.

Like headline growth, employment changes from July in most industries were statistically insignificant – exceptions being gains in business, building and other support services (4.1%) and in information, culture and recreation (3.8%), and a 2.4% contraction in health care and social assistance.

Even with the dip, B.C. remained far ahead of the national performance with a year-over-year gain of 3.1%. Comparatively, national employment, while up 0.1% from July, was anemic year-over-year at 0.5%. Year-to-date, B.C. employment growth averaged 3.5%, reflecting the province’s stronger economy and approaching the strongest gain since 1994.”
https://www.biv.com/article/2016/9/bc-employment-down-august/

    detoe44, now you are talking historic data, taking place before last month, and yet when I countered that job data with the claim that most of those jobs were either part-time or low paying, using this source:

    ht tp://globalnews.ca/news/2585369/jobs-are-coming-to-british-columbia-but-they-arent-full-time-ones/

    I got this response from slinky:
    Posted on Sunday, September 4, 2016 @ 4:23 PM by slinky with a score of 0
    Using an article from March on Global to slag a current market survey, nice job at manipulation there JGalt.
    First off the article is about job gains not vacancies which this article is about.
    Second quarter results by CANSIM show full time vacancies are going up and were at 66.1% when compared to part time (I assume you know how to use the tables)
    ht tp://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/160811/dq160811a-cansim-eng.htm

    Maybe you and slinky should get togeather and sort out if we are debating the most recent Stats Canada job info, or historic past data which refers to part-time jobs being created. Myself, and others, would agree that Mr. Doherty is referring to the most recent jobs data when he says “we are losing jobs at an unprecedented rate”.

      Maybe you should read the article again. It was from today, here is what you said “I countered that job data with the claim that most of those jobs were either part-time or low paying”.
      Here is what the article said “Employment fell 0.3% to a seasonally adjusted 2.39 million persons as a drop in part-time was partly offset by a 1.2% increase in full-time counts.” & in case you missed it “Even with the dip, B.C. remained far ahead of the national performance with a year-over-year gain of 3.1%. Comparatively, national employment, while up 0.1% from July, was anemic year-over-year at 0.5%. Year-to-date, B.C. employment growth averaged 3.5%, reflecting the province’s stronger economy and approaching the strongest gain since 1994.”

I’m not so sure that any of you should be using or referring to Stats Canada’s numbers, at least not for a while.

After all, Stats Canada’s Chief statistician has just quit over Justin’s failure to protect Statistics Canada’s independence!

“Chief statistician resigns over government’s failure to ‘protect the independence’ of StatsCan”

‘I do not wish to preside over the decline of … a world-leading statistical office,’ says Wayne Smith

ht tp://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/statscan-wayne-smith-resigns-1.3765765

ht tp://globalnews.ca/news/2944753/head-of-statistics-canada-resigns-citing-lack-of-independence/

Anyone with half a brain and a butt knows that there is some serious unemployment in our area. This is a result of coal mine closures at Tumbler Ridge, Sawmill closures at Houston and Quesnel (The most recent) mine closures at Endako Mines and Huckleberry Mine in Houston, to name a few.

We may have had some job growth however my guess is that the growth was in the retail industry, and was probably part time jobs, and low paying full time jobs. So overall a net loss of income revenue.

In my opinion BC and especially North Central BC is being held up with bobby pin and a piece of cheap string, and we can expect a devastating crash anytime, especially if we do not get a softwood lumber agreement, and get Alberta back on track.

Just for your information there is enough oil pipeline in the world to circle the earth 28 times. An oil pipeline to the West Coast is really not that big of a deal. What has happened is the the loopy left, and the environmentalists have stolen the show, and have convinced people that pipelines are bad.

When we lose another 5000 jobs in the oil industry which has a trickle down effect on BC and the Interior, maybe people will wake up and smell the roses.

Alberta has lost some 42000 jobs in the past two years in the oil industry, and it is not over yet.

So hang on to your butt, because we are in for at rough ride.

Determining job losses in Alberta over the past 2 years seems to be a guessing game. Without doing an analysis myself, a good reference seems to be an article written by CBC News in Calgary. It was published in July of this year.

It begins by stating that estimates of job losses vary widely.

1. the Survey of Employment, Payroll and Hours (SEPH) suggests that from December 2014 until April 2016, 3,853 jobs were lost in Alberta in oil and gas extraction

2. a further 29,196 in jobs that support energy and mining extraction (notice ALL of mining is included in this one)

3. then we have the Labour Force Survey which indicates that 43,000 jobs have been lost in mining, forestry, fishing, quarrying, and oil and gas over that same period.

4. the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers, estimates that 44,000 jobs were lost since the downturn began

5. competing with all those, Enform, a group funded by industry, pegged the number at 28,145 in direct job losses last year (which is just a one-year period, not 1.5 years) across the country (not only in Alberta, but also BC, Saskatchewan and Newfoundland).

Why is it so difficult to estimate?

The Survey of Employment, Payroll and Hours provides the closest to a hard count. The numbers some from payroll reports to CRA. It becomes confusing due to many inter-provincial employees. It records the location where the job was cut, not the location where the employee lives.

The Labour Force Survey is based on a telephone survey and measures people out of work in the province where they live, not the province where they worked. Thus people who live in this part of BC, but commuted to work in Alberta would be measures in BC as unemployed.

UI provides another set of data. In December 2014, 31,220 Albertans were collecting benefits. In April 2016, there were 67,900, a difference of around 35,000. Some of those people collecting EI would have run out of benefits, or found work, or moved to another province.

So, the number of job losses in Alberta in the range of 40,000 is certainly reasonable, but goes beyond just the oil industry. It is the entire extractive energy sector and its support workers and includes interprovincial as well as international workers. I know one tech person who worked in Saskatchewan’s energy extraction industry and was laid off. He lived in Florida originally and moved to Washington State to be closer to work.

“We’re seeing unprecedented job losses right now (in Canada)”. Nothing unprecedented in our economic region.

From Stats Canada

For the Cariboo Economic Region

Here are the year over years stats from the Cariboo Economic Region followed by BC

labour force
August 2015 = 86,800
August 2016 = 86,500

Employment
August 2015 = 80,000; rate = 62.8%
August 2016 = 79,800; rate = 62.4%

Unemployment
August 2015 = 6,800; rate = 7.8%
August 2016 = 6,700; rate = 7.7%
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For BC

labour force
August 2015 = 2,564,500
August 2016 = 2,485,100

Employment
August 2015 = 2,334,800; rate = 60.2%
August 2016 = 2,416,800; rate = 61.4%

Unemployment
August 2015 = 150,400; rate = 6.1%
August 2016 = 147,700; rate = 5.8%

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Unemployment over the year went from 5.5% to 8.6% in the Northeast Economic Region

The next worst one was from 5.1% to 6.8% in the Thompson-Okanagan Economic Region

The lower mainland – southwest went from 5.8% to 5.4%

The best performer was Vancouver Island and Coast from 6.3% to 5.0%

    The BC labour force stat above should have read

    August 2015 = 2,485,100
    August 2016 = 2,564,500

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