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Friday Free For All – June 23rd, 2017

Friday, June 23, 2017 @ 12:00 AM

It is the time  of the week to speak up on issues that sparked a chord  with  you.

It’s time for the  Friday Free For All.

You  pick the topic, but please,  refrain from calling each other names.  Such behaviour will see comments edited, and may see the writer’s privileges  revoked.

Obey the three simple rules:

Keep it clean

Keep it legal

No Bullying.


“The borrowing and spending binge by Canadian households, businesses and governments (all levels) continues unabated. Growing the debt in the economy significantly faster than the economy itself grows seems to have developed into a way of life in Canada.”

Canadian total (household, business, and all levels of government) debt numbers as of the end of March, 2017


    What should we expect when the whole financial system as it currently operates is not ‘self-liquidating’ and virtually all our money comes into existence as ‘debt’?

    And why should we even worry about it when there’s no way to change it without making needed corrections to the financial system itself, and there’s still no political desire to do that?

    So we’ll go right on lurching from ‘borrow, spend, and tax’ in one period to ‘austerity’ in the next ad infinitum, and inflation will eventually do what it’s always done in every other civilisation it’s taken root in, bring the whole works down.

Be good to each other…


What does Christy have up her sleeve? She obviously hasn’t truly morphed into a lefty so what is the strategy in play?

    It was pretty obvious that she’s setting the NDP and the Greens up to look like hypocrites. When they vote against her they’ll be voting against things they had promised during the election. I’ll be interested to see how Weaver votes, is he really in it for himself or his principles? Time will tell.

      IF the NDP and Greens were smart they’d surprise the Liberals and vote for accepting the Throne Speech and all their stolen proposals as they come up in the Legislature. Give the Liberals complete co-operation to get those measures enacted as fast as possible. Then watch Christy squirm trying to bring in a Budget showing just how she’s going to pay for them and maintain a ‘balanced Budget’ without raising taxes on all of us. If they did that they’d fracture their opposition ~ the coalition that is the BC Liberal Party would fall apart.

    she is desperately trying to protect her job.

      The Province actually …

    I’m surprised that none of you can see it . In the first week following her defeat , the LIbs garnered $300,000 from her corperate handlers . She’s buying time to fill the next elections donations quota before the rules change . Where are the RCMPs investigations into donor fraud ? The voter of bc deserve justice before the next election . We deserved it before the last one . Was ElectionsBC in Christy’s corner ? Did they exhibit bias ? We deserve to know .

      You already “know”!!

      You are never going to accept ANY kind of review that YOU think should happen.

      What’s the big deal as you said ataloss there is no problem collecting donations from real estate developers(like Andrew Weaver did). If the liberals have followed suit since the election to replenish their war chest then there is no there there.

      So there.

She is probably “setting up” for the next election, which will most likely be sooner than later.

Clark is doing anything she can to stay in power.. what’s her next move….hugging teachers…lol

    One could argue that she is listening to the people and presented a throne speech designed to appeal to all voters?

    She’s just another politician saying what she thinks people want to hear.

    She’s trying one or two tactics, maybe both. By adopting almost all NDP and Green policies she thinks it will be difficult for them to vote against the budget and she’ll hang on to power. And/or she’s making a pre-emptive move for the next election, stealing NDP/Green thunder with the idea of claiming they voted against their own platform so the voters can’t trust them and besides she is just the same only better.

    What a fool she is. By not standing up for her own principles she’s alienating all the people who held their noses and voted for her. By trying to be NDP-lite she’s alienating all the conservatives. Those who voted for NDP or Green will never switch over to her “me too” conversion, they’ll vote for the real thing.

    Voters were already unhappy with her. They’ll be downright angry now. She’s destroying the BC Liberal Party, handing a majority to Horgan in the next election. He must be turning cartwheels in celebration.

      The only principles Christy has are the same ones expressed years ago by a southern US Senator whose name has been long forgotten. He said at the conclusion of a speech, “Them’s my principles, folks, and if you don’t like ’em, I’ll change ’em!”

    Her moves are no more sleazy than that of Horgan and Weaver. Like it or not she still garnered the most votes and didn’t have to align with a party that has different views, policy’s and principles.
    I’d be pssied if I had voted NDP or Green and then had to align with an opposing party that operated on different principles.
    Yeah maybe she’s changed her tune since the election on some issues, but the core still remains.
    Beats the socialistic snowflake worshipping NDP any day of the week.

      “but the core still remains.”

      And there you have it from a Christy supporter, “The core still remains.” That is why she needs to be defeated, because the core policies of the Liberal party still remain despite a surface conversion. It is all window dressing, folks, and even her own supporters know it.

      I don’t disagree with you but the fact remains, she is destroying her chances at winning the next election and maybe even on forming the opposition.


      She should just accept the defeat, bide her time and wait for the coalition to tick off the voters (won’t take long) and stage a comeback. Will never happen now. We are in for the same kind of disaster that Ontario and Alberta are experiencing.

Just a note for anyone going to PGARA tonight, the Hit to Pass portion has been cancelled. They have been on all sorts of sites, trying to let everyone know. However, if you were going to go for Hit to Pass, why not come out anyway and support all of our local racers. They put on a great show, and they do it for the fans. They have a concession (awesome burgers),washrooms and grandstands. $10 for adult. Super value for the price. Oh, im not a director, or volunteer, just a fan of PGARA.

    Thanks for letting us know. I was not sure if they were going to tell the Public and let People go up there thinking there was Hit-2-Pass.
    Again Thanks and YES – come out anyway – going to be a nice evening.

Interesting picture on the front page of Wednesday’s Citizen of Andrew Weaver at the Site C project. Is that Mr. Greenjeans idea of Business Casual attire?

    That would be his hiking clothes. After all, he had to walk all the way up there. No way a Green would commit the enviro-sin of driving or flying in a fossil fueled conveyance.

      I wonder if they poured a concrete for him to stand on for the photo op? Make him feel more at home…

    What about his hair ? What would be appropriate attire for a Nobel prize winning mathematician ,climate scientist and MLA ? Some of the kind of Green he’s looking at could change the lives of over half the population of BC for the better . Gender Parity in the work force will be coming your way if you’re a woman ,if Andrew gets his way .

      Nobel prize winning mathematician? Since when?

      The IPCC won 1/2 of the Nobel Prize, not Andrew Weaver. I guess it would be “an inconvenient truth” to mention that fact. :)

      Although Weaver has never won the Alfred Nobel prize as an individual he is a shoe-in for the Alfred E Neuman prize:D

      What me worry?

      Interestingly or not , that none of you get how adding equal pay for equal work for women could add greatly to BCs GDP and general well being . Just interested in discounting Andrews medal and mettle . Btw all team members of medal winning teams get medals and a cut of the cash .

      Interestingly or not , that none of you get how adding equal pay for equal work for women could add greatly to BCs GDP and general well being .

      What medal? He doesn’t have a Nobel Prize medal.

      That is so pathetic Ataloss, trying to build him up like that. Does he seem so pitiful a leader to you that the truth isn’t good enough?

      I suppose you also think that because the European Union was awarded a Nobel Prize, every man, woman and child in Europe are Nobel Prize winners too, including Marine Le Pen, no doubt a hero of yours because after all, she’s a Nobel Prize winner.

      What colour is the sky in your world?

      Friday, June 23, 2017 @ 8:24 PM by Ataloss

      Interestingly or not , that none of you get how adding equal pay for equal work for women could add greatly to BCs GDP and general well being .
      So where would the money come from? An employer has only so much money for wages. If he has to pay more for the women, he’ll likely do it by paying less to the men.

      “The questions arise: Who decides the value of disparate jobs and what criteria will determine what each and every job is worth? Will a central bureaucracy compile a list of the nation’s jobs and assign value to each? Will employers be audited to ensure compliance? How are employers expected to know what is considered by government bureaucrats to be equitable pay?”

      ht tp://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/opinion/editorial/market-should-decide-pay-rates-1.2335906

      Every time a government tries to buy votes by requiring employers to pay higher wages, the employers look for ways to cut costs, and that usually hurts the employees. As a youth, my first couple jobs were typical minimum wage in the service industry. I worked a full 8 hour day – 40 hour week. It’s almost impossible to find full time minimum wage work now because of government interference, dictating minimum wage rates, benefits etc. It costs less to employ part timers so that’s all they offer.

      NDP/Greens want $15 minimum wage and “pay equity”. That will only hurt the workers.

      Automated fast food joints are next:
      This week, McDonald’s shares hit an all-time high after the company announced that it will be replacing cashiers with kiosks in 2,500 restaurants later this year. Cowen raised its rating because the technology upgrades will likely increase revenue.

      So why did McDonald’s go in this direction? According to Forbes, there’s a pretty easy explanation. “The push for a $15 starter wage has negatively impacted the career prospects of employees who were just getting started in the workforce while extinguishing the businesses that employed them,” wrote Ed Rensi. “I wish it were not so. But it’s important to document these consequences, lest policymakers elsewhere decide that the $15 movement is worth embracing.”


      “Let’s start with automation. In 2013, when the Fight for $15 was still in its growth stage, I and others warned that union demands for a much higher minimum wage would force businesses with small profit margins to replace full-service employees with costly investments in self-service alternatives. At the time, labor groups accused business owners of crying wolf. It turns out the wolf was real.”

      ht tp://www.truthrevolt.org/news/mcdonalds-hits-all-time-high-after-replacing-cashiers-kiosks

If he wants to be perceived as a leader, then he should look the part. Dress for success.

OK , Who scared the line painters off . They were doing such a good job and then they disapeared before the cross walks were done

ht tp://www.250news.com/2017/06/20/charges-laid-following-drug-bust/

“17 charges for a variety of Criminal Code offences, 15 of which are for firearm related offences. The firearms include a rifle, shotgun a restricted handgun and a crossbow.”

A crossbow isn’t a firearm.

But if climate change is really such a crisis, and if sacrifice on our part is needed to stop it, then why aren’t we seeing more sacrifice from people who think it’s a problem?

That’s what one person asked on Twitter: “What if climate scientists decided, as a group, to make their conferences all virtual? No more air travel. What a statement!” And what if academics in general — most of whom think climate change is a big deal — started doing the same thing to make an even bigger statement?

It would be big. And what if politicians and celebrities stopped jetting around the world — often on wasteful private jets instead of flying commercial with the hoi polloi — as a statement of the importance of fighting climate change?

And what if politicians and celebrities lived in average-sized houses, to reduce their carbon footprints? What if John Kerry, who was much put out by Trump’s action, gave up his yacht-and-mansions lifestyle?

What if, indeed? One reason why so many people don’t take climate change seriously is that the people who are constantly telling us it’s a crisis never actually act like it’s a crisis. They’re all-in for sacrifices by other people, but never seem to make much in the way of sacrifices themselves.

ht tps://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/06/04/some-modest-proposals-to-fight-climate-change-glenn-reynolds-column/102489538/

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