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Just What Should A Cenotaph Represent?

By Ben Meisner

Monday, July 21, 2008 03:45 AM

You could see it in the eyes of those vets who attended a meeting at City Hall to discuss the new,"Spirit Square" funding that the city will receive.   They are worried the cenotaph's significance will be lost on the plan to upgrade the "Veteran's Plaza".

Basically the City will receive one half million dollars towards the square providing that native art is included in the new project.

That brought a comment from one vet who was attending the session that to do that in the area of the cenotaph would recognize one group of people over the other. He said all who served are recognized at the present cenotaph. "Someone,"  he said, "should tell the First Nations that it is their cenotaph too" He motioned to the plaque honoring those who died in the Second World war, and  pointed out the name of an aboriginal soldier.

If the Province is hoping to drop a "Race" card into the mix, it will clearly do that with the proviso that in order to receive money for a new layout, native art must be included. Even the local 1st Nations turned down the idea of totem poles around the site saying totem poles were not a part of their culture.

It is a fast way for the Province to alienate those vets who remain committed to their fellow service man or woman whatever their color, race, or religion would be. It is the very essence under which those cenotaphs have been constructed.

To add insult to injury, if the present cenotaph is in need of repair (which it is), the City could simply apply for funding from the Department Of Veteran Affairs, the arm of government that they no doubt will seek funding from without changing dramatically the cenotaph as it now sits.

City Council is paying $78 thousand dollars  to a Vancouver consulting firm which proposes to look at the site with a view to making it more people friendly. They seem to think that by adding benches and other works that the street people who regularly shoot up on the city hall grounds will go away. Problem is that the City has zoned the street people into that section of the City and if there were a burning desire to get rid of them from the area they would not have to change the grounds of city hall to do it.

If this isn’t an election issue it should be, because the basis under which this City is seeking the funds is suspect at best.

I’m Meisner and that’s one man’s opinion.   


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I think the money would be better spent to try to make the Civic Plaza more people friendly.

The City is doing the same with this as they are doing with urban sprawl, they are dividing functions and spreading them all over the place rather than putting their efforts into one spot and making a success.

In case they have not checked, that is not part of the Smart Growth concept the City has signed on for in the downtown area.

The front of the City Hall looks very nice as it is. Work on the back which looks like a mess.

Then again, maybe we could use a little area with some cast concrete tables that have chess boards embedded in them. We could then get some old guys dressed in black sit there for the month of summer and play the game.

In winter, someone would have to brush off the snow and provide some gas fired heaters such as they do at Starbucks ......

Hey .... wait a minute ...... Starbucks ... that would draw a small crowd ...

;-)
"Just what should a cenotaph represent?" It is to remind us of the price paid by the brave men and women who fought for our freedom. IT IS NOT A NATIVE ART SITE, PERIOD. Lets here the names of the idiots that are promoting this crap. They should be run out of town just for thinking about this. Will common sense ever be brought back into our society?
City Council is paying $78 thousand dollars to a Vancouver consulting firm which proposes to look at the site with a view to making it more people friendly.

One block away at the Four Seasons pool or what ever they call it now they redesign it to make it people unfreindly?

In my battalion in Korea we had three native guys but we had lots of second generation polish, german, french, british and the list goes on. Should they too have their culture recognized if the cenotaph is redisigned. I thought we were all Canadians.

Veterans Affairs seems to have a lot of loose cash these days after depriving many veterans from the first world war the second world war and Korea of assistance that was badly needed by some veterns. Would it be because we are now engaged in a war that will never have an end.

Over one hundred thousand Canadians are buried around the world that died in combat. Their Mothers and Wives received a telligram when they died. Today the all of Canada seems to mourn when another Canadian arrive home in a casket from Afganastan. Politics is alive and well.

Cheers
"Basically the City will receive one half million dollars towards the square providing that native art is included in the new project."

Has *the City* ever turned down any grant when it wasn't in agreement with the attached conditions?

The wood burning *green* power plant grant for the downtown comes to mind. Rather than tell the government that downtown is not a good choice everyone one was (is?) running around looking for a suitable downtown location for a very tall smoke stack - in order not to miss out on the grant money, I presume.
I think we have kind of a plain Jane cenotaph. Probably a bit of an understatement.

It would be nice to put a bit f effort in to see how it can be improved.

It almost looks like the pedestals for a future arch to be built over it.

I can see a nice stone-like concrete sculpture in the middle of a soldier standing guard raised above the tops of the two cairn-like structures.

PG Cenotaph
http://flickr.com/photos/kden604/2465029289

Nanaimo cenotaph
http://flickr.com/photos/hillwalker/2392654407

Kamloops cenotaph
http://flickr.com/photos/bobkh/299902836

Picton Cenotaph
http://flickr.com/photos/55976115@N00/2000284617/in/set-72157606254810126

Thunder Bay cenotaph
http://flickr.com/photos/7356924@N02/1275994784

Nassagaweya Cenotaph
http://flickr.com/photos/55976115@N00/1429030364/

CHARLOTTETOWN CENOTAPH
http://flickr.com/photos/shywriter55/298330861
The cenotaph should be a plain jane model.

Any Aboriginal veteran will tell you that their war experiences were the first and possibly the only time they felt equal in their lives. I think they would be happy with a memorial of those times, art not needed.