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Chances: Know When To Hold Them, Know When To Fold Them

By Ben Meisner

Thursday, July 31, 2008 03:45 AM

The saying is, “know when to hold them, know when to fold them”. The Chances Gaming Centre, owned by John Major is a classic example.

If you or I had $14 million in a building that wasn’t making the mortgage payments, there would be a propensity to try and bail out, cut your losses. The old saying again applies, the first loss is always the best loss and Major sees it that way.

What happened to "Chances"?

A couple of things.

Build it and they will come, simply didn’t happen. Bingo players didn’t like the new set up, perhaps in part because the facility was too big, perhaps because it is electronic and the fun is in using the dabber. Then there is the issue of non smoking, the place was designed to have a special section for smokers that also didn’t fly.

If you could be the fly on the wall, I’d bet the City put a lot of pressure on Major to build downtown, and to add on a few condos as a means of trying to improve on the area. Of course that improvement hasn’t got a hope in hell in succeeding until the City tackles the root cause of the problem and they haven’t.

It is a great building with a great entrance and it won’t sit empty for long, given as I guess the interest on $14 mill is about seventy grand a month. You either swallow the pill now or later and the fact that Major moved to close the facility so fast suggests that he is ready to swallow right now.

While the matter of the left hand turn into the Casino at 97 and 16  isn’t really part of this whole scenario , it should be noted that when the Casino purchased the property they paid, $7 mill under the condition that a left hand turn would be built as part of the deal with the province who owned the property.

If you look across the street at the Golf property going for $15 million, Major didn’t exactly steal his corner.

The people further along the highway are trying to get the Province to come up with the money to build a left hand turn into their places of business. They built there with the understanding that there would not be a left at the entrance and trying to get the taxpayer to come clean after the fact is going to be a hard sell. If they want a left hand turn and the cost is around a million dollars, go to the Province, offer to pay for the turn (just as was done down the street at the Casino) and away you go.

When you either buy or build on cheap land because it has limited access you shouldn’t be coming along later asking the taxpayer to make that property more attractive, unless of course you are ready to put your money where your mouth is.

I’m Meisner and that’s one man’s opinion.    


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Excellent points about the left-turn lane Ben. It's about time somebody said it. If the businesses want a left turn lane, they should be paying for it.
The condo's haven't been built either...from what i can see they haven't even been started...I doubt they were going to be built at all..my opinion.

The businesses who are asking for the left turn , a lot of them were there when there was a left turn...
and it was taken away from them...

so Ben I only agree with part of what you have said..
Great points on the left turn lane Ben.
Perhaps I'm missing something here, but if he couldn't make a go of Bingo in that location, what makes him so coinfident that he can make a go of it at the Casino location? For all intents and purposes, isn't it the EXACT same product (that will have the same smoking restrictions) only a few km's away? I have a really hard time believing that a hardcore bingo player (and let's be honest, that's who's using this facility) would hate Chances because of the decor/design, but would love a different facility at Treasure Cove. If that's all it was, wouldn't a simple reno to Chances do the trick?

A few other points that don't seem to have come up and that may prove interesting:

- What about the slots that are at currently at Chances? Will there be an application to have these moved to the Treasure Cove site as well? Is that the proverbial "ace in the hole" to this request? If my math is correct, it would increase the number of slots at that site by roughly 20%. I'm not sure how much the usage of those machines would vary between when they are sitting at Chances vs. if they were at the Treasure Cove, but I'd make a guess that the utilization rate would be higher at the casino.
- What about the 3M that the City put into the parkade? Will City Council be willing to lend a sympathetic ear to a move request when for all intents and purposes, they just blew 3M that could've be used for something else?
- You can bet that there are many local politicians wishing that this hadn't come up so close to an election. It HAS to be a discussion point.
- Will City Council YET AGAIN ignore their own downtown revitalization priorities and allow another entertainment establishment to be moved out of the downtown core?
Wow, gambling now wants to move out of the downtown, liquor consumption has decreased and the crime rate has also declined in PG. Whatever is happening? Interesting trend. Chester
The City would have not have built a new parkade if the Gaming Center had stayed where it was before it moved.

Therefore, the owner of the Gaming Center can not just nilly-willy pack up and leave for greener pastures, in my opinion. The City spent a lot of money and entered into a good faith agreement with him, under the condition that the Gaming Center would occupy the new premises and make use of the parkade for the foreseeable future, and of course a lot longer than just four months.

Let him modify the facility to create a cozier atmosphere for the bingo patrons and turn any extra capacity into offices, some retail like boutiques, whatever.

Failing that surely he should not be allowed to transfer his bingo and slots until at least a long term secure tenant has been found by him, a tenant who would use the parkade to the capacity that it was designed for originally.

It will be interesting to observe how the present mayor and councilors are going to deal with his request.

Does the rush to move have anything to do with the upcoming municipal elections?