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Commitment from City Needed: Forum

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Sunday, September 28, 2008 02:00 PM

Prince George, B.C. - In a room full of politicians from the School Board, the Municipal Level, as well as from the Provincial and Federal Governments, issues of Security and Homelessness were brought to the table at Saturday Afternoon's 'after rally forum.'

Sandra Rendek, who works in the Downtown Core, spoke about how many women she knows feel unsafe in the area. She also talked about how Tourists often return to their hotel rooms when they see what happens in the Downtown.

The RCMP's performance also came under fire; Rendek said not enough police officers enforce, especially given the amount of drug activity she sees. Downtown Prince George Resident—also a homeless person—Bill Baker echoed the same sentiment.

“The down here will never change until people get a backbone,” said Baker. “We need this needle exchange because there are a lot of drug addicts, but I think they should move the needle exchange and move it closer to the new police station where they can monitor it.”

He said the streets are becoming a hazard. “There's needles and pipes lying around, making it dangerous for children—anyone who thinks the Needle Exchange is helping prevent disease is wrong.”

Despite Baker's remarks, Olive Godwin, the Primary Care Coordinator with the Central Interior Native Health Society says 'the homeless' were not represented. “We knew it had not been organized to be responsive in that level,” she says.

“Our goal was to embrace the people who are normally there—but that didn't happen because they were quickly moved out.” However, Godwin committed to putting together a committee to ensure that voice is heard.

“I believe that people will be more thoughtful about how to include the voices of the people who are down here who are being identified as 'the' problems,” said Godwin. “Maybe they're not going to come to a room like this, but there's lots of different ways to encourage people to say what they have to say.”

Downtown Prince George President Shari Green spoke of a downtown Ambassador program that could assist Tourists. “They would be full time, highly paid people,” said Green. Though she said the program is still in the development stages, she says it could see mobile ambassadors on the street.

Deputy Premier and Prince George Mount Robson Liberal MLA Shirley Bond said change cannot happen in 24 hours. “It's important to consider how much we would take at one time,” said Bond. “We need to look for a long term solution [and] I would support and promote a mix of housing.”

Density is need

Phil Boname, who authored a report seven years ago on how to revitalize the downtown said he's seen change already. “In my experience, it's both bottom up and top down—and we saw the bottom up [at the rally],” said Boname.

 

“Now, we need some sort of strong direction from the Mayor and council—there's no question, that from a financial standpoint alone, you've got a lot of land that's way below assessment value; and that's criminal.”

 

“The question is: Where do you bring land values down to a point where the private capital says yes, the risk is sufficiently low that we can make a return on our investment,” said Boname. He says Homelessness is a Global issue, but he points to what happened in Gastown in Downtown Vancouver.

 

“We call it the rebirth of a community,” said Boname. “It went downhill for 20 years, partly because of the social stigma,” but “we installed a whole series of initiatives that were sufficiently high enough and attractive enough to cause private capital to [build].”

 

Former BC Premier Mike Harcourt spoke about the Community Court System implemented in Downtown Vancouver. He said long jail terms are necessary. “There are 30 to 40 real Gangsters here—it takes patience and resources to grind them down through surveillance,” said Harcourt.


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first step is to deal with the drug problem not the ones using but the ones selling get rid off them one way or another once the sellers are gone the amount of users will drop off and I would be willing to bet the amount of homeless would also drop off we need a government who is ready to get tough on crime not send people to the hilton on the hill these people are supposed to be punished for their crime not live in a better place than quite a few taxpayers. once in prison the only rights they should have is a place to sleep and enough cheap food to live on anything else should be a luxery I think that we need to have a 3 strike law and a place to send them to Baffin Island sounds really good






























The housing that Mr. Major will build next to the Gaming Centre, Mr. Ghaia will build in connection with 'Metropolis' and Mr. Backlin will build at 7th and Victoria will go a long way to increasing residential density downtown.

And if you don't believe that, just ask them.

I see no reason why the City should do anything as long as we have forward-looking private developers (like Mr. M, Mr. G and Mr. B) taking the initiative.
The city needs to work with the province and feds to deal with homelessness. The eye-popping figures Mr. Harcourt presented to the panel indicate we fail miserably to fully cost the status quo. When we do, we find the taxpayer saves money, BIG money, by housing (NOT sheltering) the homeless.

The private developers are not going to do that. We must.
“Our goal was to embrace the people who are normally there—but that didn't happen because they were quickly moved out.”

Not true. I saw what I assume are visibly identifiable homeless people at the rally. Some were listening front and centre, some were standing side by side with what I assume are visibly non-homeless people, and some spoke up during the rally, in support of Mr. Harcourt's comments about ending homelessness.

“I believe that people will be more thoughtful about how to include the voices of the people who are down here who are being identified as 'the' problems,” said Godwin.

Not true. I heard nothing but genuine empathy and concern for those are being identified as 'the' problems, and how to help them find homes, so that the drug dealers and hard criminals can be dealt with.

I didn't go to the rally, but most downtown focus groups it seems to me always miss the point about the real world constraints to downtown revitalization in Prince George.

The main problem is the awful air that floats over from across the river mostly from the oil refinery (which is expanding), as well as some from the pulp mills. The downtown at times is the settling spot for all this bad air and for every block you move away from the source it makes a world of difference. A distance of George Street to Victoria Street makes a huge difference if you had to live downtown 24/7. I always wonder at the person that would want to make the downtown their home in PG. Surely when we talk about populating the downtown of PG we are not talking about people who have choice? Those people of choice live further away.

Another huge issue is the flood plain issue (in the same area of perpetual downtown revitalization focus)... not so much for the obvious flood insurance reasons (risks unquantifiable), but rather because the huge limitation it puts on density growth (no underground parking) much beyond what the downtown already has if serviced primarily by cars for transportation.

The last of the three huge obvious constraints to downtown growth that are rarely talked about IMO is the fact that the downtown does not have 5-feet of river front access no matter how creative you get. There is a ton of industry that occupies virtually every single piece of prime river front real estate within the city limits. The city priority is clearly a priority that is not focused on planning the best strategic use of infrastructure development to support a future livable city. The city planners historically and to this day plan major infrastructure improvements sinking more tax dollar commitment to a flawed concept of an industrial downtown core that is revitalized for aesthetics with tax payer dollars to maintain the myth that the city of PG has what the rest of the world calls a downtown.

I think any downtown future in PG will be west of Quebec Street and should be focused on 5th and Victoria as its core. I think the RCMP station should not be built at that location, but rather down at 5th and Queensway (old A&W site) where the bulk of their work is located. I think the city should have at least a 2-square block city park at the core of the downtown (Victoria to Winnipeg) for the general public and big events, and that there should be many more connected parks every few blocks or so that create pleasant common spaces that are open and yet peaceful for a break.

As for the homeless people... some I would think can't manage their personal finances, and others simply get squeezed out for a thousand different reasons most of us could never comprehend. Soon there will be many empty homes in PG, so building more tax payer funded homes might not be the solution, but rather how do you get these homeless people in existing homes and off the streets.

I think the homeless issue is a 100% provincial issue. I think part of the solution could be for the government to acquire foreclosure homes/apartment buildings from the banks as they become available for a pre-negotiated rate and then convert these homes into micro rental units for socially assisted families that are transitioned (maybe 10-years) into either home owners(with their own mortgages), or where appropriate supervised renters. Since these types of homes would not be flooding the real estate market in a market correction it would stabilize the value of all the remaining homes and thus sustain a home valuation base that most peoples finances rely on. If we had a hypothetical housing bubble with excess housing on the market it might be a good strategy.

AIMHO
Building homes for the homeless? $8 million dollars for thirty homeless people is a good start. I have some money left after I pay all my taxes. Why not take the rest? Then I can be homeless too.