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Report From Parliament's Hill - December 4th

By Prince George - Peace River M.P. Jay Hill

Thursday, December 04, 2008 03:44 AM

Separatist Coalition Seeks to Overturn the Will of Canadians

Six weeks after you made your choice at the polls.

Four weeks after the Conservative Government with a larger, stronger mandate from voters was actually sworn into office. 

Eight sitting days into the new Parliament.

One day after the opposition parties passed the Speech from the Throne, endorsing the Conservative Government’s agenda for the nation.
 
That’s when Jack Layton, Stéphane Dion and Gilles Duceppe said they’d seen enough of the Conservative Government in action to compel them to seize power by forming a coalition government.
 
The motivation behind these unprecedented events is NOT the economy.  Rather, it’s an attempt to circumvent the will of the people. 

We now know for certain that Jack Layton and Gilles Duceppe had been secretly plotting to disregard and overturn the choice of Canadian voters almost immediately after Election Day.  No one is certain how much Stéphane Dion was involved in the early days of their scheming, yet it may explain his stubborn reluctance to step down as Liberal leader despite demands for his immediate resignation by his own party.

The opposition is certainly within its rights to express its lack of confidence in the Government.  However, it’s undemocratic to overrule the choice of Canadians in a matter of days.
 
Is it any wonder voter apathy is at an all-time high?  During the October election, disillusioned Canadians pondered, “Why should I vote? What difference will it make?”  Apparently your vote means nothing to Layton, Dion and Duceppe.

The coalition would include in a major economic portfolio Jack Layton, who has always been very clear about his intent to raise taxes and spend billions. 

He’ll be propped up by the Bloc Quebecois which dedicates its very existence to the destruction of our nation.  Coalition “leader” Stéphane Dion led the Liberal Party to its lowest voter share since Confederation!

Our Economic and Fiscal Update was a signal to Canadians that as they’re tightening their belts, so would their elected representatives.  The opposition parties obviously weren’t willing to give up their three-year-old Liberal-introduced taxpayer subsidy.  The withdrawal of that proposal has not changed their minds about seizing power.

When it comes to the economy, our Government has been ahead of the curve all along.  We anticipated the global economic slowdown and moved early to cut job-killing taxes.  Thanks to our tax cuts, Canadians have kept billions more of their hard-earned dollars to inject into the economy as they see fit.

We’re also injecting billions to build roads, bridges and other critical infrastructure.  Our $1-Billion Community Development Trust is specifically designed to assist industries and communities in peril, such as the forest sector and towns like Mackenzie.

We’re protecting Canada’s banking system and the credit markets by injecting tens of billions of dollars in liquidity to ensure families and businesses can get the loans and mortgages they need.

Yes, Canada is struggling in the midst of worldwide turmoil.  Yet our economy, unlike many around the world, is still moving.  Retail sales are actually up.  And prior to the opposition’s antics, the TSX had just finished six consecutive days of gains totalling 20 percent.  That’s your stocks, mutual funds, RRSPs and RRIFs.  What’s more, our GDP actually grew by 1.3 percent in the third quarter.

Many residents of Prince George-Peace River are forcefully expressing their refusal to accept this plot by the opposition parties.  I’ve received thousands of emails and phone calls asking how they can stop it.  Protest rallies are being planned by average Canadians across the country because they fear for the future of Canada under a Liberal-NDP-Separatist coalition.  They fear for our democracy.


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You are skipping over the part where Stephen Harper thought he could act as if he had a majority, and railroad through a bill that all other parties would find objectionable. The Conservatives have no one to blame for thair problems but themselves. Instead of blaming 'treasonous' and 'plotting' opposition parties Jay Hill look to yourself. You and your colleagues have abandoned your leader with lack of good counsel that led him down this ruinous path.
Canadians don't want a leader who will whine about the opposition. We want politicians to work together for the good of this country.
I have seen quite a few polls that indicated very strongly that canadians did not want their tax dollars going to a party they do not support.
And yes,I would be one of those people.
That is exactly what started this mess, and that is what the Conservatives tried stop.
So is it wrong for the government to actually try to do something that the majority of canadians support?
The opposition also blocked every attempt by the Conservatives to put some teeth in our laws,youth crime,handgun offenses,repeat offenders,home monitoring, etc.etc.
That is what the PEOPLE of Canada WANTED the government to do,so why would the opposition block that and keep it from getting done?
Obviously to the opposition, what the PEOPLE of Canada want means very little, and that is what is wrong with our entire political system.
That is clearer now than it has ever been and canadians should be damn mad about that.
We can only hope that when the smoke clears we do have more say and control over those we elect.
Right now,they are totally OUT of control!
But I ain't going to bet on that!
"Rather, it’s an attempt to circumvent the will of the people."

And exactly how is that? The will of the people was to give no party a majority in the House. The will of the people means that any party which wishes to take the lead must enure they have sufficient votes behind them to be able to work effectively.

One can do that by putting their thoughts in front of the House without prior consultation with those who might provide those votes. That is a gamble.

On the other hand, one can do that with some consultation, tweak if necessary to get the votes, and then present the matter to the House.

The latter was not done.

Remember two things.

1. The Conservatives have had a relatively long run at governing where they have been supported by others having a much higher hurdle to jump over with fewer seats in the House. The Conservatives, in government, are not an unknown entity to the voters. The "will of the people" was not to give them a majority mandate based, one would presume, on their record.

2. We have an economic situation which must be dealt with and instead we have been handed a government which is no longer able to govern in a minority situation because they act as if they had a majority. The primary objective is the economy. The way that was proposed to be dealt with is the issue in dispute. That has conveniently been forgotten in the last few days.

It is a crying shame that the people the "will of the people" put in place cannot do the work the "will of the people" has asked them to do. Govern with the cards that were dealt you. How often do you have to ask the same question of the people?

Do your work properly and "the will of the people" will provide a majority mandate to those who have been able to make it work the next time there is an election.

Conversely, botch it, and the "will of the people" will give others a chance the next time.
Did anyone ever think that Harper took away the party funding as punishment to the oposition who has prevented the conservatives from getting things done from the moment we voted them in?? Can you imagine how hard it is to run government when you have those three BOZO'S drewling for power? Their political futures are all pretty much ended since the last election, so what do they have to lose?? The three of them do not put Canada and its people first, EVER! and never have. This is a case of sore losers who are imbarrassing themselves and Canada by showing it to the world. We were DRAGGED TO THE POLLS not once but twice and both times the majority voted in Harper! Now the oposition is slapping the Canadian people in the face insinuating that we did not vote properly. MAN UP, LOSE GRACEFULLY and let the party that WE THE PEOPLE VOTED IN get down to running this country. If they cared at all about Canada the three donkeys would be doing everything they could to help care for it.
Andyfreeze .... I am sorry, but you have it in your head that the people wanted what you say they wanted. Can you provide some factual information about that rather than your own view of it.

The party that ran on many of those points failed to win a majority is all I see. Even if they were just one seat shy, they would still not have a majority.

Some 65% of the people of Canada did not vote Conservative. The only reason they have as many seats as they do is because of the vote splitting beteen the NDP and Liberals.

If there would have been an election in Canada with the NDP and Liberals joining forces as a coalition going into the election, as is so commonly done in many countries in the world that have a parliamentary system with 3+ parties, the likely outcome would have been a coalition majority.

Remember, the Alliance/Reform faced that with the PC just a few years ago and decided to meld into a new party. Remember the roots.
I would rather have three BOZOs than one DICTATOR.
"let the party that WE THE PEOPLE VOTED IN get down to running this country"

The people voted people in. Those people were affiliated with a party. The people did not vote enough of them in to give any one single party a majority.

How long does it take for people to understand that simple fact? Repeating the words over and over again that the PEOPLE VOTED IN THE CONSERVATIVES does not make it so.

There was some 2 years of trying to make it work. The people decided NOT to give the CONSERVATIVES the pencil after that experience. The people decided to give them another minority because they did not trust them to go it alone. How simply must one make it for people to understand that simple reality?
Once again a Conservative, Hill this time, is trying to mislead people about the coalition. It is not a "separitist" coalition since the Quebec separitist party is not part of the coalition. The coalition is between the NDP and the Liberal party. The Bloc has only agreed to not vote against it in a confidence matter, that ia all. It is not otherwise involved.

Hill knows this, so I presume his disinformation is deliberate and another scurrilous attempt to mislead voters. He should, however, be careful. Quebec voters, whom the Conservatives have been wooing like mad for the last few years. are getting pretty angry at all this Quebec bashing.

I wonder if Hill would answer the following questions:

1. Were you involved in Harper's attempt to form a coalition with the separatists in 2004?

2. Were you involved in Day's attempt to form a coalition with the separatists in 2000?

3. Would you and Harper object like you are now doing if the Bloc voted in support of the confidence motion which caused all this fuss, propping up your Conservative government with separatist votes?

4. Can we see a copy of the cheet sheat your party sent out to its supporters in your propaganda campaign?
"It is not a "separitist" coalition since the Quebec separitist party is not part of the coalition."

Do you think that if you keep saying this it will somehow become true? Interesting.
All this would go away if the politicans that the people elected to represent them would do that. Do away with party lines and have the politicains vote the way their consituants would want.
"I would rather have three BOZOs than one DICTATOR."

Precisely. Harper has finally bullied himself into political isolation and oblivion. Will there be any self-respecting opposition MPs willing to put up with more of his bullying tactics in the future after parliament reconvenes at the end of January 2009???

I doubt it.

Nothing will change. The man has a super ego which prevents him from seeing things clearly, imho. The present crisis is entirely of his own making - he gambled and lost. Eventually his own party will have to ask him to step down to prevent further damage to it.

One good thing has already come out of the whole kerfuffle: Finally the NDP will have to refrain from making things easier for Harper because the NDP can no longer keep referring to its newly found Liberal friends as the "Culture of Corruption."

IMO Harper is toast.
I wouldn't be too surprised if between now and the 27th of January 2009 the Conservatives would appoint a new interim leader, one who has the political astuteness and savvy to realize that a minority government MUST work WITH the opposition, LISTEN to it cooperatively and thereby accomplish things for the GOOD of all Canadians.

Come on gus....if you add all the numbers together it's easy to say 65% did not vote Conservative.
But when you take those numbers on an individual basis as we should,3 parties lost and the Conservastives finished at the top of the list, according to seats won.
I wonder why so may are trying to spin that?
If you voted NDP or Liberal or god forbid...Conservatives,you voted for ONE (1) party,not all of them together.
Dion and the Liberals got their clock cleaned bigtime, and I attribute that to Dion himself more than anything else.
The simple truth is that to now consider this twit as Prime Minister of Canada after decimating his own party in the federal election, is about the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of!
In fact if I was a Liberal as I USED to be, I would be extremely embarrassed!
Dion is on a vendetta.
He blames Harper and the Conservatives for bad mouthing him when in fact, it was his own lack of political skills that did the job!
Andyfreeze- Rules of Parliament mean whoever have most votes gets to rule. That is a basic rule of our democracy. If the Coalition has more votes than Conservatives, then they get to form the government. End of story.
If you asked all of the Liberal voters whether their vote for Liberal also included the option of jumping in bed with the NDP and The Block, I expect the answer and outcome would be much different.

The same for the NDP. I don't think they would have assumed that it would be OK to use their vote and think it's OK to work some backroom deals with the Block and the Liberals to turf out the Conservatives.
Not so herbster, the coalition can only govern with the approval of the GG.No gurantee of that as we may find out. It isn't as simple as counting seats and picking the winner. End of story.
"It isn't as simple as counting seats and picking the winner. End of story."

Uh no, not end of story -- but nice try. If you want to get any motions through, it is about votes and seat count.