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Provincial Finance Minister Says Growth Will Be Slower than Expected

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Friday, December 05, 2008 02:19 PM

The possibility of a prolonged U.S. recession, continued turmoil in world financial markets and slowing demand for B.C. products are the primary reasons the B.C. Economic Forecast Council has lowered
growth projections for the Province, Finance Minister Colin Hansen announced today.

"Based on recent global developments, Economic Forecast Council members have reduced their outlooks," said Hansen. "However, B.C. remains in a strong position to weather the current economic downturn and the 2010
Winter Olympics are expected to provide a significant and well-timed boost to the provincial economy."

The average of the collected forecasts from the Economic Forecast Council now projects B.C.'s real gross domestic product at 1.3 per cent this year, down from the previous forecast of 1.4 per cent. For 2009,
the forecast economic growth is expected to average 0.6 per cent, down from 1.3 per cent. Forecasts indicate growth is expected to average 2.7 per cent in 2010 and 2.6 per cent from 2011 to 2013.

Members of the council note that government revenues will be negatively affected by a slowdown in the resource sector, and a prolonged U.S. recession would continue to hurt B.C.'s trade sector, especially
forestry.

"B.C. has fared well given the current economic climate in much of the rest of North America," said Hansen, following a meeting with members of the council. "Although we have seen a weakening of economic growth in
the Province, we remain in a strong financial position, and B.C.'s growth projections are above those for North America as a whole."

During the meeting, members of the council discussed a broad range of economic issues including the ongoing recession in the U.S., the timing of its recovery, how it will affect B.C., the potential effectiveness of
fiscal stimulus packages, and the economic impacts of the 2010 Winter Olympic Games.

The Economic Forecast Council represents some of the most respected independent thinkers on economic forecasting in Canada. The council provides critical economic advice to the minister of finance in
developing each year's Economic and Fiscal Plan.

Individual council members' growth forecasts for B.C.'s real gross domestic product are included in the attached backgrounder.

The Economic Forecast Council as part of the annual budget process. The council is comprised of 12 economic experts from various banks and private sector forecasting groups.
Here are the participants and their  predictions:

bParticipant: Marie-Christine Bernard
Organization: Conference Board
Per cent change in real GDP:
2008: 1.2
2009: 1.1
2010: 2.7
2011-2013 Average Annual: 2.7

Participant: Jock Finlayson
Organization: BC Business Council
Per cent change in real GDP:
2008: 1.2
2009: 0.4
2010: 2.8
2011-2013 Average Annual: 2.6

Participant: Doug Porter
Organization: Bank of Montreal
Per cent change in real GDP:
2008: 1.4
2009: 0.2
2010: 2.1
2011-2013 Average Annual: 2.5

Participant: Avery Shenfeld
Organization: CIBC
Per cent change in real GDP:
2008: 1.5
2009: 1.5
2010: 2.0
2011-2013 Average Annual: 2.8

Participant: Ernie Stokes
Organization: Stokes Economic Consulting
Per cent change in real GDP:
2008: 1.6
2009: 0.9
2010: 3.8
2011-2013 Average Annual: 2.6

Participant: Derek Burleton
Organization: TD Bank
Per cent change in real GDP:
2008: 1.3
2009: -0.2
2010: 3.6
2011-2013 Average Annual: 2.5

Participant: Mary Webb
Organization: Scotiabank
Per cent change in real GDP:
2008: 1.5
2009: 0.2
2010: 2.8
2011-2013 Average Annual: 2.5

Participant: Paul Ferley
Organization: RBC Financial Group
Per cent change in real GDP:
2008: 0.8
2009: 0.6
2010: 3.5
2011-2013 Average Annual: 2.5

Participant: Dale Orr
Organization: Global Insight
Per cent change in real GDP:
2008: 1.5
2009: 0.7
2010: 2.7
2011-2013 Average Annual: 2.8

Participant: Helmut Pastrick
Organization: Central 1 Credit Union
Per cent change in real GDP:
2008: 1.2
2009: 0.0
2010: 2.1
2011-2013 Average Annual: 2.9

Participant: David Baxter
Organization: Urban Futures Institute
Per cent change in real GDP:
2008: 1.5
2009: 0.2
2010: 1.5
2011-2013 Average Annual: 2.8

Participant: Carl Sonnen
Organization: Informetrica
Per cent change in real GDP:
2008: 1.1
2009: 1.3
2010: 3.2
2011-2013 Average Annual: 2.0

Average:
Per cent change in real GDP:
2008: 1.3
2009: 0.6
2010: 2.7
2011-2013 Average Annual: 2.6


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Well, first thing we got to do is settle with the indians so that we can get business. BC is one of the worst investment zones in the world.

They want to tote around that it is the best place to live. Then make it the best, stop talking about it.
The following paragraphs are from an article in the Vancouver Province dated Dec. 03, 2008.

"November blew a deepening chill into the Lower Mainland real-estate market, figures released yesterday show.

Year-over-year home sales in Greater Vancouver plunged by 69.7 per cent in November from the same month a year earlier, the Real Estate Board of Greater Vancouver said yesterday.

The benchmark price for detached homes, condos and townhomes in Greater Vancouver fell 12.8 per cent between May and November 2008, the board said."

The following is the link to this article in the Vancouver Province:

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/money/story.html?id=b7a87b2b-6db2-43c3-8f29-6f68782f4a2e

The rate of decline in prices of homes in the Greater Vancouver area (12.8% in the last 6 months) exceeds the rate of decline in home prices that has occurred in the United States housing price meltdown.

Check out the following link to see how the rate of decline in Greater Vancouver home prices compares to the rate of decline in home prices which has occurred in the United States.

http://www.greaterfool.ca/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/3077522731_5b96d83a67_o.jpg

I would like to urge everyone to keep these statistics in mind as they are out doing their Christmas shopping especially if they are making these purchases with borrowed money.
Hansen is dillusional.
The economy in B.C. is nowhere near as strong and stable as he would have us believe.
It may be ok on the lower mainland for now, but try coming north and see what is happening Mr.Hansen.
Maybe bring your buddy Gordon Campbell with you.
Typical Campbell government smoke and mirrors.
We have a forestry based economy here in the northern part of the province and in case these over-paid lackies in Victoria didn't notice that,that same forestry based economy is in HUGE trouble.
Even John Rustad recently admitted that Campbells forestry policy has been a failure and he has been unable to get him(Campbell)to change either the policy or his mind.
(that in itself is suprising...I didn't think Rustad had the guts...)
Hansen also neglects to mention the continue downloading of Olympic costs to the municipalities that somehow got missed in the original numbers the Liberals were tossing around about how much all this was going to cost the taxpayers.
And that is happening at a time when local economies are in trouble.
Hansen is full of it...there are tough times coming and trying to get people to believe otherwise is dangerous, as well as stupid.
Saving face is everything to a Liberal isn't it?
Must be an election coming.
The Economic Forecast Council represents some of the most respected independent thinkers on economic forecasting in Canada. The council provides critical economic advice to the minister of finance in developing each year's Economic and Fiscal Plan.

Its like asking the fox, how are things in the chicken coop. On last nights news we saw stats on the tens of thousand jobs lost across Canada in the last year. The highest ever on record. And here in the northern part of the province we live job loss every day.

The cup is half full.

Cheers
Congats Gordo & boys! The largest cost overrun in the history of the province-the convention centre.Sure put those NDPers to shame. But the best is yet to come. Yup you guessed it - the Olympics. Gordos legacy to BC for generations to come!
Everything the Campbell clan does between now and next May should be studied in great detail because they ARE in election mode,and while they will probably win,they will be trying to lessen the beating they are sure to take.
They are also going to avoid as much doom and gloom as possible.
We should also pay attention to when any new programs and hand-outs will be put into play.
Before or after the Olympics?
If they offer something that will kick in AFTER 2010,I won't be holding my breath!
After that date,it ain't going to be pretty!
Well I'm going to vote for the liberals with the hope that they will be re-elected to face the music after the olympic dust has settled. It should be there last stand. Gordo will wish he had resigned after the DUI charges.

The cup is half full.

Cheers
I agree with you for the most part Bridge,but like everything that comes back to haunt the Campbell Liberals,it will probably all get hung up some where in red tape and beauacracy and buried.
Campbell is a master at keeping the stinky stuff off of himself and the party.
The Basi/Virk/B.C.Rail case is a prime example.
Campbell and crew will keep it tied up with legal wrangling until well after the election.
They KNOW what it is going to do to them and there is no way in hell they will let the truth come out before they go to the polls.
I have no doubt at all that they will do the same thing with the Olympic fallout.
They also know that as long as they win the election,which they probably will,they don't have to let anyone see the real books or even tell the truth.