Translation: You will pay more tax if you elect us.

Carole, you tired old gasbag. You're still not coming out with anything that I can't hear in the neighbourhood pub. That's where we can sit down, and hear such simple solutions to the problems this province (and country, and for that matter, world!) is experiencing. And that's the sort of stuff we hear from you.

Maybe that's where you belong, Carole, playing pulltabs, eating pickled eggs, and telling raunchy jokes with your mates. Listening to your "speeches" of the past few years, it seems as if you're echoing exactly what's being said in those pubs.

Like I've said before, Carole, say something constructive, innovative, or even intelligent, and you might have some poeple listening to you, that actually think you might have a chance of leading this great province of ours.

Otherwise, step down and let some new blood into the NDP.

To the above comment - at least she was not caught drunk-driven in Hawaii and got off the hook because a msitake was made!!

"March 24, 2003 | 7:40 PM ET

British Columbia's premier was fined $913 US (about $1,350 Cdn) Monday after pleading no contest to a drunk driving charge in Hawaii. Gordon Campbell was not in the court for the hearing. He was represented by a lawyer, who paid the penalty on his behalf. 'Mr. Campbell is sufficiently embarrassed and ashamed for what he did, as well he should be,' said Maui District Judge Reinette Cooper."

Nobody got *off the hook* - no mistake was made, the offender was fined, ordered to undergo counseling, the fine was paid. The offender apologized publicly for his mistake. His apology was accepted and he was re-elected.

"In front of DOZENS of supporters" ?????

Who organized that? Remind me not to use that person to organize an important event for me. Surely one could get more than DOZENS even to that kind of event.

They must all have been at Coldsnap.

She seems to be the Stéphane Dion of the provincial NDP. The party does not seem to be interested in coming into power.

James: "We've proposed extending EI benefits for a year so that some of those forest workers that are running out of that support, will be able to have that support."

Does the province pay EI benefits? Isn't it the Federal Government's responsibility?
Is she proposing that the province would pay for the extension of federal benefits after they run out? Man, would that ever create a precedent.

James: "I've said that for post-secondary education that we will freeze tuition, make sure the rate of inflation costs go to post-secondary institutions, restore the cuts that the Liberals have proposed, and actually reduce interest rates for students so they don't pay the kind of huge debt load that they do on student loans."

Who is going to pay for the shortfall in the budgets of the post-secondary institutions? I know, us.

Is the NDP going to force a lowering of student loan interest rates and how is that going be done?

James: "...We want to look at freeing those resources so we can create that new manufacturing in forestry,..."

Who will do the manufacturing (and selling!) of the new products? The B.C. government?

Incredible.

I really have to wonder about the NDP when it comes to choosing "leaders".
Gassy Jack Layton of the federal NDP and Squeaky Carole James here in B.C.don't exactly instill much confidence as an alternative to the Liberals in B.C.or the Conservatives in Ottawa.
Of course the lack of a platform and direction doesn't help much either!
This kind of leadership does make me wonder just how serious they are about actually winning an election?
Maybe they don't care...maybe it is just a job.

Just remember last time they were in power!!! When the NDP works, we don't.

I like the idea of scraping the carbon tax and doing a cap and trade system as well as a different aproach to forest tenures.. but on the other hand the NDP cant manage a healty meal into a decent Sh!t.

We need a real alternative. I dunno, 11 conservative governments over 38 years left AB with the lowest taxes and highest incomes in the country. I think they're on to something. We got Gordon Corleone and/or Carole "Perestroika" James.

"In front of DOZENS of supporters" ?????

They should have had a free bar.

She hasn't a clue "what to say" let alone "what to do". She should pair up with Stephane Dion and together, they could get "dozens of votes".

If they sang instead of speaking, they might get a bigger turnout.

Posted by: gamblor on February 1 2009 9:26 AM
We need a real alternative. I dunno, oil over 38 years left AB with the lowest taxes and highest incomes in the country. I think they're on to something. We got Gordon Corleone and/or Carole "Perestroika" James.

Fixed that for you...

In North Van today looking at the Fast Cats. The aluminum boat factories can't keep up!! All they will do is create enough advocates to employ the province and let our children pick up the tab.

Wolfie.

When Alberta had oil, we had lumber, pulp and paper, fishing, oil, gas, mining, agriculture, Universities, imports, exports, Railways,, etc; etc;, so we should be doing ok. There is more to running a Province than Oil.

The ;problem with the NDP is that 99.9% of their members have spent their life time collecting Government, or Union cheques, and couldnt run a Hot Dog stand.

BC isn't a hot dog stand, it is a province. Now Campbell CAN run a hot dog stand!

James took the NDP when it has two MLAs and brought it to the position where it is now taken as a serious contendor for forming government. Infact, so many of you right wing at any cost types insult her and those who support her, that I am forced to conclude that you are scared shitless that she will succeed.

News for you guys - get used to it, she will succeed!

HeeHee! Hot dog stand good one!

James relishes the idea of slapping a bun on the people of this province if we will stand for it.

Then when the province can't even buy a hot dog or a bun, the only one still votin' for the NDP will be ammonra, amen.

It isn't James I'm scared of, it's the people that vote for her that make me avoid public washrooms.

debt-free too, forgot to mention debt-free.
BC has plenty of oil. Our politicians are just too busy catering to the flower children to get it.

As I said, insults not substance.

Northman said, "but on the other hand the NDP cant manage a healty meal into a decent Sh!t." And that shows us Campbell's expertize. Look at this article from this article from the Jan. 20 edition of the PG Citizen,
"Last summer the B.C. Liberals sold a record $2.7 billion in oil and gas rights in northeastern B.C. with few environmental safeguards and zero chance of reinvestment back into northern communities.
If billions of tax dollars were permanently taken out the Lower Mainland, it would be a huge contentious issue, to put it mildly.
Prince George and many other northern communities have all the hallmarks of Victoria sucking huge amounts of resource tax dollars out, while giving little in return.
Prince George has some of the lowest property prices in the Canada, one of the highest HIV rates in North America, chronic high unemployment, the most school closures in the province, a population decrease, native poverty, high teen dropout rates, large budget shortfalls with UNBC and CNC, and if that wasn’t enough, an environmental disaster looming in near future.
It is shameful that it has been only federal money available to help combat our pine beetle epidemic."
There are a few things that the BC Liberals have done .

"News for you guys - get used to it, she (James) will succeed!"

Watch out, Alberta! There will be another wave of unemployed job seekers heading east, like during the nineties.

P.G. and close surroundings lost 18,000 in population.

Well, things tend to go in cycles...but, even that we will deal with (again) if it indeed would happen.

It is time you started to look at the reality of the situation. Here is a few other facts.
"B.C. economy in 1990s did fine, thanks

Times Colonist

Tuesday, May 06, 2008

In the editorial on the decline in incomes in B.C. since 1980 (May 3), you state that it is paradoxical that the one period in the last 25 years when median incomes increased in B.C. was during the 1990s "when the province's economy struggled by many measures."
What exactly are those measures? Employment in B.C. increased 22 per cent during the 1990s -- much faster than the 16 per cent growth for Canada as a whole. Housing starts in B.C. averaged 29,000 per year between 1991 and 2000, a higher rate per capita than the 29,800 annual average during the "boom" period of 2001 to 2007.
And what about all those 1990s economic refugees fleeing B.C.?
In fact, B.C. gained an average of 14,000 people annually from net inter-provincial migration from 1991 to 2000 compared with just 4,300 annually for 2001 to 2007.
Perhaps the 1990s weren't quite the "dismal decade" that the Liberals would have us believe.
Rob Maxwell
Victoria"
And then we have the fiasco in MacKenzie. The BC Liberals should have being overseeing the deal instead of wallowing in the self-adulation of saying a deal was made.

"RIO TINTO, the global mining combine, is in talks to raise up to $9 billion (£6.1 billion) from Chinalco, the state-owned Chinese aluminium giant.

The investment, if successful, will mark one of China’s biggest strategic overseas investments outside the financial sector. It would also demonstrate the country’s financial muscle at a time when the western world is at its most vulnerable."

Kemano power seems to be attracting big money.

Another sign of global power calling the shots and local politicians better be smart and astute to not get left completely out of the loop with archaic ideas and concepts.

debt-free too, forgot to mention debt-free.
BC has plenty of oil. Our politicians are just too busy catering to the flower children to get it.

"I am forced to conclude that you are scared shitless that she will succeed."

You got that right. I was here when they were in power the last time. A repeat of that does in fact scare me.

"Prince George has some of the lowest property prices in the Canada"

So what's your point? Would you prefer to see a $350,000 home in PG sell for $700,000 like it would anywhere else? Sure it's great to boast to folks about the value of your home, but you still have to buy it. One would think that most people would rather have that extra $350,000 go towards savings, an education fund for their children, etc.

"One of the highest HIV rates in North America"

Individual responsibility can control that MUCH better than government policy ever will.

"Chronic high unemployment"

Really? The town was booming pretty good up until the last year and even with the recent slowdown, we're in much better shape that most communities in the "north".

"The most school closures in the province"

Wouldn't that sort of be contigent on the number of students in an area, an area that the government has no control over?

"A population decrease"

I tend to blame our City leadership for that more so than the Province. They are the ones responsible for making PG an attractive place to live (and therefore a city that can attract residents and business), not the Province.

"Native poverty"

Pretty sure the feds have the biggest role to play there.

"High teen dropout rates"

How the heck is this the fault of the Provincial Government? Perhaps some parents need to wake up and perhaps some kids need to become a little more responsible. The government can't raise a family, nor should they.

"Large budget shortfalls with UNBC and CNC"

Finally one where the Province does have an impact. The question is whether the shortfalls have more to do with funding or the management of the PSI's. It could very easily be a problem with the latter.

"An environmental disaster looming in near future"

One that begun when the NDP was in power and that many believe could've been addressed had pre-emptive logging been allowed in parkland, to which the NDP said no. My personl belief is that MPB is just a natural cycle and there isn't a single thing that ANY goverment could do about it, Liberal or NDP.

In the editorial on the decline in incomes in B.C. since 1980 (May 3), you state that it is paradoxical that the one period in the last 25 years when median incomes increased in B.C. was during the 1990s "when the province's economy struggled by many measures."
What exactly are those measures? Employment in B.C. increased 22 per cent during the 1990s -- much faster than the 16 per cent growth for Canada as a whole. Quote "..Housing starts in B.C. averaged 29,000 per year between 1991 and 2000, a higher rate per capita than the 29,800 annual average during the "boom" period of 2001 to 2007.
And what about all those 1990s economic refugees fleeing B.C.?
In fact, B.C. gained an average of 14,000 people annually from net inter-provincial migration from 1991 to 2000 compared with just 4,300 annually for 2001 to 2007.
Perhaps the 1990s weren't quite the "dismal decade" that the Liberals would have us believe.
Rob Maxwell
Victoria"

Funny... never saw any of those facts in any community north of Hope...

Oh I get it! This guy lives in Victoria, Lala Land where everything is green and easy. I wonder where all that "growth" was?

I THINK bEESKNEES SHOULD GET OUT FROM UNDER THE TABLE AT HIS PUB AND GET SOME HELP AND GET OUT OF THE BARS AND YOUR MOM WOULD BE SO PROUD OF YOU

I WONDER IS DIPLOMAT HIS DRIVER HE SURE KNOWS ALOT ABOUT CAMPBELL ISSUES WITH HIS DRINKING AND WE ALSO HAVE GORDOS MINISTERS TELLING PEOPLE WHO CAN,T GET JOBS LEAVE THIS PROVINCE AND GO TO FT MAC IN ALBERTA TO GET WORK AND YAMADOOPOLCAT SHOULD GET SOME DEPENDS BECAUSE HE IS GOING TO NEED THEM

THE LIBERALS WILL SELL OUT THIS PROVINCE TO ANY BODY WHO IN THE MARKET LOOK AT BC RAIL AND BC GAS

THE LIBERALS WILL SELL OUT THIS PROVINCE TO ANY BODY WHO IN THE MARKET LOOK AT BC RAIL AND BC GAS

WATER BED WILLY MAYBE HE SHOULD PUT HIS HEATER BACK ON HE BRAIN HAS FROZEN THE LIBERALS ARE IN POWER AND THE WHOLE FOREST INDUSTRY IS IN CRISIS BECAUSE OF THERE POLICIES

Declining enrolment in schools is due to the fact that people move away looking for work - just go to Mackenzie today and see how the enrolment has dropped - and the Liberals are in power.
And don't use the hospital or medicare - it was T. Douglas's idea of medicare.
Most Liberals can afford 2-tier medical?
And donot hike the min. wage - why everyone can afford to live on $8 /hr.
And yes, if the Liberals deputy ministers can get a 37% wage hike why cannot the rest of us!! And yes, jam the carbon - tax on seniors - even those who do not even own a vehicle.
Why this is the land of opportunities = retracable roof for Vancouver / Olympic Village mess up and now the $$ from BC rail sale have gone down by over %170m. - Read the Citizen - Friday/Saturday. Thanks Gordo!!

The last six posts explain by themselves why I wouldn't want to associate with anything NDP.

Over and out.

Wht does Gordo and the Liberals hate ordinary BCers; you know - the ones that pay the taxes!

OK all you right wing zealots explain to me why we are in this global economic collapse that originated in the USA when North America has had a right wing dream team in power.

Republican government for 8 years in USA.
Liberal government for 8 years in BC.
Conservative government for 3+ in Ottawa.

The Republicans didn't follow right wing policies, they were the biggest deficit spenders ever. Trillions of dollars added to the federal debt, two wars and the biggest military budgets in the world!

Nothing right wing about that! The wars alone add 10 billion per month to the debt, all of it borrowed money, other countries money!

Conservatives in Ottawa went on a spending spree and were headed for a big time deficit even without the global meltdown!

The Liberal government in B.C. has not contributed to the global meltdown. By law it has/had to balance the budget every year.

Too bad others don't have a law like that.

So explain to me why right wing supporters continue to support right wing parties even tho the right wing parties do not do as they say?

Explain to me why Warren Buffet who is the most successful investor of public traded companies in the history of business did not support the Republican party under the McCain leadership in the last USA election.
Mr Buffet then went on to say Barrack Obama was and is the best bet for an economic recovery after Mr Obama announced his massive stimulus spending spree.

If as a right wing supporter the reason you vote right wing is that it is good for business, therefore you will continue to have a job, why does the greatest business leader of all time not support that view?

As for the Liberal law here in BC of no deficits, Mr Campbell has already hinted he may have to break his own law.

Diplomat, in his usual inimical way, makes a point about economic performance and people going to Alberta, when he says, "Watch out, Alberta! There will be another wave of unemployed job seekers heading east, like during the nineties."

Has that not already happened? Did we not have Pat Bell recommending that laid off workers from Mackenzie be flown to Alberta locations to get some work? I know there were some problems in the nineties, but none of the Prince George MLAs suggested that workers should all be taken to Alberta as a matter of Provincial Government policy, did they? A strange economic policy indeed.

What I do recall during the 2001 election is canvassing at a couple of lumber mills in PG, and having the employees come out at shift change and tell me they had set another production record. The mills were shipping lumber to the USA hand over fist at the time. Some downturn, eh?

As I said, the anti-NDP mob are full of insults but have no rational debate to defend Campbell and his ilk.

"The Republicans didn't follow right wing policies, they were the biggest deficit spenders ever.....Nothing right wing about that!"

If the right wing did it, then by definition it is right wing. Let's not torture the language and use double speak.

Campbell is much the same, he talks against deficits, but he holds the record for the biggest single defiit in the history of BC, bar none.

diplomat let me know when you go to the pine center i won,t go because you will suck the air out of the mall like Gordo suck the money out of people in this provience and has sold of anything that could help the people of BC

hey gus you should jump of the bus and make a plan with stan i don,t mean to be coy roy but you listen to the wrong people and are brain washed

sorry szd maybe the liberals should have built the new ferries in BC instead of germany because they saved taxes they would have to pay if they built them in BC which would make jobs and help the people of this province

Ammonra: "As I said, the anti-NDP mob are full of insults but have no rational debate to defend Campbell and his ilk."

Thank you for explaining exactly what makes you tick: Those who don't like the NDP and its agenda are, as you say, the mob.

Ammonra: "If the right wing did it, then by definition it is right wing. Let's not torture the language and use double speak."

And, if the left wing did it, then by definition it is the left wing. Let's not torture the language and use double speak when it comes to actions of the left wing of the past and in the future.

Something to keep in mind.

45 posts - Whee! It's going to be a lively election...

I doubt that anyone could really vote to go back down to NDP management, that would be suicide. But then misery loves company, as you can see in many of the NDP type posts above.

YDPC: "I doubt that anyone could really vote to go back down to NDP management, that would be suicide."

You know the oldie about the guy who kept banging his head against the wall. When asked why he kept doing it he said that it feels so good when the pain stops.

Never *misunderestimate* the dogged determination of some non-mob people.

Cheers!

They are all the same, they tell you what you want to hear then turn around and do what they want. Until we stand up to these liars nothing will ever change.

Careful with the unconditional love for Warren Buffet, lost it all. WB is offside big on GE and GS. If you lefties are the answer, Russia and China would hold the business model of the future for the planet. The Yanks are getting beaten up, but they will emerge and thrive. Can't say the same for the corrupt cease pool of Russia and China. You think Wall Street reeks? try Moscow.

Carol James sounds like a broken record.
It's all the same bs, nothing new.

CAROL JAMES every time you open your mouth you show us just how stupid you and the rest of your party is .Do really think that people with any intelligence is really listening to your rants.

dmg asked on February 2 2009 8:59 PM
CAROL JAMES every time you open your mouth you show us just how stupid you and the rest of your party is .Do really think that people with any intelligence is really listening to your rants.
I will take a chance and answer for her, Yes the people with intelligence are listening and they are responding with both financial and moral support. Gordo is sinking deeper into an immoral abyss and even he can't crawl out of it.