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Capital Plan Holds Up Budget Talks

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Monday, February 23, 2009 06:49 PM

Prince George, B.C. - The budget discussions at Prince George City Council are supposed to wrap up tonight but Councilor Cameron Stolz  wanted to take a slower approach on the Capital plan. 
 
He pointed out that while the provisional budget documents were available in January and there has been plenty of opportunity for Council to discuss the addition of items that would cost $20 or $50 thousand dollars, he believed they were being rushed on approving a Capital spending plan that called for spending of more than $71 million dollars.
 
He made a motion that Council  go through the plan, item by item, and approve each one. There are 73 funded items on the plan, a further 35 unfunded.  
 
Most Councilors  received the report Friday at 4:30.  Coouncilor Stolz said  he is very concerned that  a provisional budget document was presented in January and there were 13  budget enhancements  worth a total of $1 million that have been debated  over the course of 4 meetings,  and  the Capital plan with more than a hundred items worth tens of millions was presented with the expectation  of  an hour or two of discussion.
 
Stolz  put forth a motion  that called for each item to be reviewed, approved, defeated or deferred.
 
"This plan didn't just fall out of the sky" said Councilor Don Bassermann, this plan has been developed over at least four months, and in some cases 13 years." Bassermann says he would  support an approach that would see Councilors’ ask for more information and debate on select items. Mayor Dan Rogers says  he doesn't need to get the details on why the Elk Centre roof needs to be  repaired "I would suspect it leaks" .
 
Councilor Deborah Munoz said she understands the motion, Councilor Stolz put forward  and  she would support a motion that would  allow Council to set its  priorities on capital plans, "There are some I agree with and some I don't agree with."
 
"This is a transition period" says Councilor Dave Wilbur, as many of the projects were on the list of a previous Council.
 
Stolz says while there are four Councilors  who have had  input on previous budgets and capital plans. "But there are four others who have not.  Do I think the Elk Centre roof needs to be repaired? Damn rights,  but  I would like to  discuss it."
 
Councilor Shari Greene says she didn't receive the plan until 10:00 Sunday night, and because she had to work all day she hasn't had an opportunity to look at the plan before the meeting got underway at 4:30.
 
Mayor Rogers suggested they look at the items, and pull from the list those which need further discussion.
“I suspect that if we go through this item by item we will be adding to staff time and costs as they will need to be here tomorrow, and Wednesday and next week” said the Mayor.
 
The final vote was 4 in favour of the item by item review  (Stolz, Greene, Munoz and Frizzell) and  4 against (Rogers, Bassermann, Wilbur and Skakun). The tie means the motion was defeated.

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Every councilor should have the opportunity to examine each item and ask any question that he/she wishes to have clarified.

The four that called for a careful item by item review should be recommended for their desire to be as thorough as possible and time should not be an obstacle.

I am keeping tabs already for the next municipal election and it isn't easy to get off MY blacklist once a councilor manages to get on it.

Again, take your time, it's our money.

As for the Elk's center roof leaking: Was it repaired properly, recently, how long did it last, did the city get value for the money for the last repair job, if not, why not, how much is it going to cost...etc, you know, basic questions that a homeowner or a business owner would ask when a roof needs a costly repair...the mayor's answer seems to be a bit too superficial.


How are we ever to get spending at City Hall under control if we don't start taking a closer look at individual budget items?

It appears that most of the same-old same-olds want to do the same old things. Are they expecting new results without new thinking?

I for one want new results at City Hall.

And frankly, I think it takes even more than individual budget item discussions by our council - I want to see them question the same-old same-old processes, expectations, priorities, "what's possibles" and management "talent."

But apparently not.

Nope - same old same old - tax increases vs. cost control through innovative thinking.

Welcome to a "Better" Prince George - the same old Prince George.
Brutal, so the mayor doesn't abstain when one of his councillors is absent?!

Krause is a no-show, so because of that a common-sense, money-saving idea gets the boot while Rogers sides with the old guard? That's pathetic. If Krause wanted to vote against the motion, he should have been there. Otherwise it should have been 4-3 in favour of the motion and they should have rolled up their sleeves and got down to the task of saving us money. Apparently Dan has forgotten in just a couple short months whose money he's spening.
I was thinking Dave W would have wanted to go through the list.. Wonder what he is up to?
I say go thru the list. this will be good for the newbie councillors. Even better is that it will enforce the city hall workers, that we have a council that will keep them on their toes.
How could they vote against a closer look at the budge? Probably afraid of what might turn up? They may not have time to go thru each item, but definately should look much deeper at most of the items. ALL the counsillors should have time to really study the budge.
"Haste makes waste"
I too will be paying much more attention for the next election.

tooo late...they raised the taxes and kept the assessments high. KA-CHING!
Same old, same old. What happened, Dan?