and was raised due to first jolt of taser so needed a few more jolts? This cartoonist should not be making fun of this mans death but more importantly the officers should be quite embarrassed to even think to bring a stapler into their excuses of poor policing.

It's quite hard to watch their eyes and facial movements on the news when trying to justify what they have done. Sad thing is I wonder if they are starting to believe they were right after all this time? Need a harsh wake up call is what they need.

Tazers should be banned if we are a lawful society that only executes people according to the rule of law (which we don't have a law for), rather than by the chance of an electrical current through random interactions with law enforcement.

To many excuses available for police with the tazer for the effects of their actions IMO.

Without tazers we can call them peace officers or law enforcement, but with tazers we can only call them police if not much worse.

If I was consistent I would have used that word (police) in my above post.

If Robert Dziekanski's death wasn't so damn pathetic and sad,this might be funny.
The inquest itself is also pathetic, considering there isn't much doubt that the RCMP are going to walk away on this one...again.

Let's remove the tazers, then all we would have to worry about are their side arms. They must be much safer.

Staplers are Top Secret Polish Weapons,that is the Reason you can,t see it on the Video.
What was the Rush to shoot the Man, he was going nowhere ?

That’s what happens when you’re a looser and you become a cop.
Unfortunately, It appears to be a prerequisite for the police force.
It's an embarrassment to some of the few good officers in the force.

Its a shame because it will turn out that Robert Dzcansky is to blame for his own death.

the only time a tazer should be deployed is if a firearm were to be used. It should be considered the same thing only less likely to be fatal.
Should not be used to subdue or control any subject, or inflict pain as repercussion.

Well in light of the above comments and the seriousness of the situation I would like to be the first to recommend the new STAPLER REGISTRY. The government at once should commence a stapler registry to remove all dangerous staplers and their users who cannot be trusted. Electric staplers must be the first to go as they can shoot multiple staples without reloading. Ministaplers should be allowed with restrictions and be locked up when not used and not allowed to be transported unless a permit is issued, as they are easily concealed. Staplers should be locked up and staples stored separately to ensure that children cannot get their hands on them. The government could start the registry and employee another 100,000 people to administer and enforce the regulations thereby helpng reduce unemployment in Canada.

The above would be pathetic if not for the fact that a man lost his life over a stapler. Watching the news last night I could not believe the words coming out the officers mouth. How did he believe that 4 trained officers could be considered threaten by a stapler? So if you have a beer bottle in your hand and an officer tries to talk to you in a loud bar and you can't hear him does that give him the right to shoot you? We have reached a new low in this supposedly "free" country of ours.

szd.. you slay me, that was very funny... trouble is that you represent what the rest of the country is also thinking, change that to world.

The cartoon is in poor taste, and I don't think that it is appropriate, but it does illustrate (what I believe to be) current public opinion. This really makes me scratch my balding noggin, how on earth can that cop or his mouthpiece face the camera and say things like: "he had a stapler" what does that say about the moral strength of the cop(s)? Is he: a) lying? b) admitting cowardice? c) really stupid? or d) was really honestly fearing for his life? After all, there was only FOUR highly trained RCMP to deal with one guy who would not obey (or who could not understand the english) commands to lay down so we can kneel on your spine while we cuff you. These cowards (and here I refer to all the recent Taser incidents) keep falling back on "their training"
well I guess they should have a 3 week course on common sense for the dumb ones.
metalman.

Well I see all the slackers have rolled out of bed and into their easy chairs in their momma's basements. Time to start another day of bashing the bad old RCMP. Well in case you did not here, the real grown-ups, the police chiefs and the officers told the world that ALL officers need tasers. Put THAT in your crack pipes and smoke it!

The cartoon is in extremely poor taste, to be sure.

The endless showing of the video of the last few seconds of the poor man's life is equally in poor taste.

People are upset when dead and bloodied Afghan child victims are shown just once on TV, but the hard to watch Robert Dziekanski take-down is almost standard nightly fare on CTV and CBC.

Is there even one Canadian left in Canada who has not seen that pathetic video at least three times?

BTW, the whole rest of the world has seen it as well...

Andyfreeze, sadly enough I must agree that no one is going to take any responsibility for any wrong doing whatsoever once again.

I can see the name of the movie now!

"four cops and a stapler"

It is another embrassment for BC government and justice system. Poland has started its legal proceedings against 4 officers for murdering its citizen. I can assure you the Polish justice system will take no nonsense of stapler defence.

I am appalled by the growing instances of discrimination cover ups in the BC and the government attempts to cover up these discriminations. The UNBC ongoing discrimination case[s] in Prince George
is just one example. Last year an International PhD student in SFU won a legal case for discrimination, involving racist comments, against Vancouver police and he was compensated financially to settle the matter. Few months later his student visa was cancelled and his application for permanent residence rejected and his name and picture was circulated around. He is now doing his
PhD in another country.

What message BC tries to send to the world? We are a bunch of racists and do whatever to cover up these discriminations and punish the victims?

Don't be surprised if the students start choosing other universities in other provinces and the Hollywood moving its projects to other provinces. This has already happened to UNBC.

I know someone who is making a script for a film based on this discrimination farce in BC universities. I hope he covers the cover up of Robert's case also.

Nowicki, I have listened to Radio Polonia on CBC Overnight http://www.cbc.ca/overnight/ and you are correct. The death by tazer still is a big story in Poland.

The outcome of this inquiry is also being closely watched in Robert's homeland.

CBC Overnight is on FM 91.5 from 1:00 am to 5:00 am.

It can be very educational to hear the latest news and other commentary from a Korean, British, Polish, Australian, Swedish, Slovakian and German perspective.

Register staplers? Also make sure you limit the staples in the "clip". Is there an automatic stapler as opposed to a semi- automatic stapler? I have no respect for the RCMP. I don't even make eye contact. (Too dangerous). Too bad no one filmed Fred Quilt.

I have been attending Commission sessions, including today's. Braidwood rarely even looks at the cop perjurers. Why? His firm - MacKenzie-Fujisawa - gets government contracts, and if he doesn't get it "right" then: no more $4000 per day gigs. Then there is that embarassing lawsuit against Braidwood, that incurred AFTER he was appointed to the Supreme Court. Funny, when a lawyer drops a client, said client is required to pay for duplicate attorney service with his new lawyer. Or so said Braidwood's fellow judges. Should he be judging a cop-cop issue?:
http://www.canlii.org/en/bc/bcsc/doc/1993/1993canlii636/1993canlii636.pdf


The first cop (Rundel) changed his story 5 times. Today's goof (Bentley) did it twice. But there is a hint that they are going to hang their Supervisor, (Robinson) out to dry. Even if you lack the moral uprightness to find taser use unnecessary in this case, you have to agree after the 1st jolt caused Dziekanski to fall, he was prostrate and in agony, and Robinson ordered another 26 seconds of jolts and direct impact hits. Rundel and Bentley denied hearing all but the first taser deployment, in face of independent witnesses who testified that these were clearly audible.

What will the actual taser user (Millington) testify tomorrow or Friday? His role was "Lead Investigator" and other cops say he only followed orders and was not in position to make an objective threat assessment. Rundel-Bentley lied that they didn't hear Robinson order Millington to use the taser, prior to their contact with Dziekanski. Rundel and Bentley also lied about reacting to the "threat" of a plastic stapler. Neither made any defensive efforts after that supposed challenge. Bentley deployed his "defensive baton" AFTER RD was prostrate and dying.

The City of Gliwice, Poland has a case file on all four officers, and RCMP brass. It is highly likely that they will post Interpol warrants against all of same, and Wally Oppal (AG of BC) for engineering a whitewash of this Negligent Homicide.

Rundel-Bentley-Millington can post to mitigating factors, but none defied Robinson's orders, nor did they arrest same for culpability in excessive force. Robinson is under DUI/Negligence/Reckless Driving charges that his police service couldn't fix. Yet the RCMP - the biggest crime gang in Canada - allows him to work in a position of trust.

Tasers kill, but they do so indirectly. Whenever a state of lactate induced, profound metabolic acidosis (PMA) exists following a Taser shock, death is highly likely to occur. This can occur after Taser shock, because a Taser shock causes muscles to contract and relax very rapidly for as long as the shock is applied. In Air Force experiments on anesthetized swine, a total Taser shock of 90 seconds (administered in 5-second intervals) resulted in a substantial increase in the blood lactate concentration--which is the way one measures the degree of metabolic acidosis--(none of these animals died, though, probably because they were unconscious throughout).

PMA results in death from cardiac arrest (because of the ventricular fibrillation or other irregular heartbeat produced) or from respiratory arrest, most likely because of the weakening of muscle strength that results from a build-up of lactic acid in heavily exercised muscles (the diaphragm may become too weak).

Taser has lost only 1 case (they have bought off over a dozen cops who were injured in training)
http://centerforinvestigativereporting.org/files/WareOrder.pdf

Taser has repeatedly sued Coroners for producing finding of inordinate adaptive phenomena - blood acidosis - in targets of Taser use. Taser instructs members of the 11,000 police services that are their clients, that conducted energy ONLY causes compliance, by obstructing skeletal-muscular activity in the target. They say nothing of neuro-cardial effects. The powerful cop-lobby allows them to lie through their teeth, and get away with it.

http://centerforinvestigativereporting.org/articles/zappingtaser

PLAINTIFFS’ CONDITIONAL MOTION FOR ATTORNEYS’ FEES AGAINST TASER
– N.D. Cal. Case No. C 05-03658 JW (RS)

-----In this case the jury decisively rebuked TASER’s phony claims of safety. The Court will recall TASER’s counsel’s opening statement, and her repetition of TASER’s reckless claim that there was not a “scintilla” of proof that TASER ECD can cause cardiac arrest through acidosis, or in any other manner. That is what TASER has been telling police officers during training. That misinformation– motivated by TASER’s sales department and its slogan that TASER is “Saving lives every day” – has resulted in a series of tragic deaths such as Mr. Heston’s.-----

"Daubert" expertise standards as sandbag:

http://www.fool.com/investing/high-growth/2008/09/12/tasers-deadliest-weapon.aspx
http://centerforinvestigativereporting.org/files/HestonExperts.pdf

Taser competitor claims the company is "guided by an evil mind."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2662724/complaint-taser-false-advertising

Nervous system over-charge/stasis collapse - the intent of CED use - and PH imbalance are integral effects; the latter may follow, but almost immediately. Amphetamine' effects are hybrid; few cocaine users died from PH imbalance, cum heart dysfunction (won't pump blood outside of the normal Potential Hydrogen range). Cardiac arrest may result from mind-body adaption to over-stimulation. The body of a CED target would be subject to other traumas of police control, as in a face down handuffing, with hands behind back. In the Dziekanski case, police treated body convulsion as non-compliance (or "combative") and they put extreme constriction force on his mid-section.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3882617/pH-and-Acidosis

http://www.scribd.com/doc/9658927/Respiratory-Acidosis

Remember the story was very different from the cops before the video surfaced and remember the cops where not going to release the video at first. Are these four cops being advised by the rcmp? Did not these cops watch the video, their testimony goes against what is seen on the video.

I wonder if these four cops would have a case against the rcmp for poor training?

Considering all issues against the rcmp in the last few years maybe its time they are disbanded. The Canadian Airborne Regiment where disbanded over the actions of a couple of individuals. It now seems the rcmp are a force out of control. Local police forces have more control over their members and can react more quickly and decisively against transgressions.

I do hope Poland will proceed with charges but the politicians will most likely get into the act and the case will be dropped.

I do not think tasers are a bad idea, it is how they are deployed and used. The man was down and they kept zapping him, five long hits, torture pure and simple. The rcmp should be charged with torture.

Imagine if we didn't have the video we would have had another Houston.

rcmp we have a problem and it is you!

All four cops plus the airport idiots should be fired.

truth.... thank you for that great post, I learned a lot.

But it was a RED SWINGLINE STAPLER !!!

Excellent post, truth, very informative.
It strikes me as funny why the police involved in the R.D. travesty are apparently still lying. It does not make sense, there were so many witnesses, and the evidence in the form of the cell phone video (I guess I am one of the few who have not yet seen the video, I do not wish to watch a man's last moments) it seems silly to deny what so many have apparently seen with their own eyes.
metalman.