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Braidwood Inquiry , So Far Three Different Stories .

By Ben Meisner

Tuesday, March 03, 2009 03:48 AM

It is a case of selected memory. Constable Kwesi Millington, the officer who delivered 5 tazer jolts  into Robert Dziekanski after (according to the Constable) he feared for the safety of himself and three other police officers when the Polish immigrant picked up a stapler and,”I was afraid he was going to use it against us”. The fact that the stapler was in an open position only added to the fear says Constable Millington.

Now Constable Millington has definitely shown a selective memory. He has had no trouble on the stand remembering that Dziekanski was holding a stapler in a threatening manner (it was open at and just above waist high) but he couldn’t remember that he tazered Dziekanski.

According to his testimony at the Braidwood Inquiry, he also could remember that he heard the crackling sounds of the tazer, meaning that it was not making proper contract with Dziekanski's body, but he couldn’t remember that he tazered the guy 5 times.

He suggested to the hearing and then changed his testimony on the stand that his original two statements to police in fact were not correct. That statement by the way came after the four officers had got together and talked about what took place hours after the incident , again clearly a breach of conduct.

In that statement he says Dziekanski was coming towards the officer in a threatening manner when he first fired the tazer. The tape of the event shows quite clearly that he in fact was turned and walking away from the officers when they gave him the first jolt.

Then Millington says he had to hit Dziekanski again because "he didn’t go down and was coming towards the officer", wrong again. The video quite clearly shows that the man went down and down hard on the first jolt, the rest of the tazer jolts (and 26 seconds worth) were just after thoughts. Well said the officer he was rolling around and not being compliant. Of course he was rolling around; he had just been hit by a jolt of lightning that had knocked him off his feet!

In the end watching the re play of events brings not only a sickening feeling to one’s self, but also a sense of embarrassment of being a Canadian.

We are supposed to have the most proficient police force in the world.

The RCMP uniform was known the world over as a symbol of our kind and carrying personality. Oh have we changed that image in a few short months.

The problem however is that instead of seeing what took place as an act of violence towards another human being; we have been trying our best to sweep it under the carpet, while the world watches in wonderment.

I’m Meisner and that’s one man’s opinion.


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Commission counsel, Art Vertlieb, tore apart the official story, and it is only his job to present non-controversial fact. Wait until Millington and Robinson are cross-examined. Dziekanski was writhing in a death cycle, and agents for the province's highest legal official, treat same as a "struggle." Only a moral cripple would deny that RD was reacting to metabolic acidosis that crippled the cardial muscle, leading to full arrest. What is the difference between Holocaust Denial and the following lies, which have their source in Stonewally Oppal's low morals?

http://www.ag.gov.bc.ca/prosecution-service/media-statements/pdf/CJB-ClearStmt-12Dec2008.pdf

"After Mr. Dziekanski went to the ground he continued to struggle and resist despite the efforts of three Officers to bring him under control and handcuff him. Constable Millington manoeuvred himself to the area around Mr. Dziekanski’s shoulders and deployed the taser 2 more times in ‘push stun mode’ as Mr. Dziekanski continued to struggle and resist.

It took approximately 30 seconds after the last taser deployment to restrain and handcuff Mr. Dziekanski. The Officers applied force to Mr. Dziekanski while he was on the ground in the prone position for at least 45 seconds. The force included Corporal Robinson pushing his knee/shin down in the shoulder/neck area of Mr. Dziekanski. Several independent witnesses commented in statements on how Mr. Dziekanski was able to resist and struggle with police while on the ground."
Discovery Channel had stunt man (Guinea Pig) Ryan Stock on the other night. He wanted to see how his body would react to being tasered. Do you think I could find that clip for the life of me to post it....NO!!! Every episode but that one.
However, I did find this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i53teQwNmvs

It's 3 guys putting the taser to the test. These guys arent' going anywhere after first jolt.
Were these four officers who tasered Robert Dziekanski not aware of the power their little toy had?

Just for the record Ryan Stock went down as well the first time. He wasn't going anywhere either.
Heidi155

Metabolic Acidosis - the cause of taser deaths - is the result of the body's release of Lactic Acid into the bloodstream, as a means of slowing down the traumatic effects of conducted energy. The effect is the reverse of Adrenalin release. The heart won't function at blood-PH levels, outside of a range. Taser - without giving reasons - trains users to restrict taser use to 20 seconds. The reason: they know their device kills.

Ben Meisner would probably remember the successful suits against Ford, for burns caused by faulty design of their "Pinto" car. Taser is getting a pass because of the cop-lobby.

On another matter, I have vague memories of the "torture" charge that was applied against an RCMP cop. Now I find that he confessed. I have access to 100% of legal databases in Canada. The case against Saxon Peters is nowhere. This is yet another Wally Oppal coverup.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2007/02/07/rcmp-torture.html

http://www.ag.gov.bc.ca/prosecution-service/media-statements/pdf/09-01_SPeters-DelayedAnncmtSpPros.pdf
Great interview with Dolores on phone Ben.

:)
Truth

Thanks for all the info. You have a good heart and you're much appreciated by me.

That first link you posted in 9:06 comment I've read about before and have no words for that. Total disgust/sadness is all I feel.

Keep your video cameras on everyone! The public/world has the right to know the truth.
The Commission is on break now. I was counting Millington's lies. There is no point to doing that since they are too numerous to count.

Millington wasn't aware that Pritchard was taping his acts, so he felt he had could cover up with impunity. And he has good reason, given Stonewally Oppal's refusal to prosecute. For those who are unaware, prosecution MUST occur where there is a controversy of fact. That is clearly the case here.

The Criminal Justice Branch has been run by Stan Lowe. Incredibly, the Legislature's Special Appointment Committee has sent Lowe into the high paid Office of the Police Complaint Commission. And two NDP members - Jenny Kwan and Mike Farnsworth - voted for Lowe. Kwan is my MLA. She is a criminologist, who worked with Vancouver Police, prior to her election.

Lowe will not serve the public at the OPCC. Cops can look forward to a freeway for excessive force and testimonial perjury.
Truth, thanks for the link to the Clear Statement file.

"At the airport Mr. Dziekanski continually stated that he was afraid of flying, however, he boarded the airplane and departed to Frankfurt at 6:20 a.m. He arrived in Frankfurt at approximately 7:55 a.m. and departed once again at 12:15 p.m. on a flight to Vancouver (YVR). He arrived at YVR at what would have been 12:25 a.m. Polish time the following day, or 3:25 p.m. Vancouver time. His travel time to this point would have been approximately 21 hours. There was no information available to investigators regarding Mr. Dziekanski’s emotional state during his flight to Vancouver from Frankfurt."

What?

Nobody bothered to interview fellow passengers of Robert who were on the same flight from Frankfurt to Vancouver?

Nobody bothered to call Frankfurt Airport to check how he behaved during the 4 hours and 20 minutes he spent at Frankfurt Airport?

EVERYONE important at Frankfurt Airport speaks several languages (it's Europe, Wally!) including English.

Who were the *investigators* and who restricted what they were allowed to invesigate?

Unbelievable.




LOL If this were a normal case that did not envolve the RCMP the people responsible would go down with so many conflicting stories. But "mark my words" they will get away with it. Lies and all.
I really think one of the most important players in all this in regards to charges that could and should have been laid and how it has all been handled (or mishandled)is in fact, Wally Oppal.
He is the forgotten entity in all of this and I find that disgraceful.
He is the guy calling the shots and he is always there,watching from behind the scenes.
He is the guy who could have made the difference and he didn't,but then this is not the first time.
He scares the hell out of me when it comes to some of the blatant stonewalling we are seeing within the justice system her in B.C.
This just keeps getting worse and in the end,it all leads back to Oppal and indeed,the Campbell government in general.
Be afraid of these guy's with a third term in office.
Very afraid.
Andyfreeze, it looks bad but did you really think that (no matter who is in charge) somebody would lower the pedestal of the monument of most admired police force in the world?

Wouldn't that cause the mob (us) to lose respect?

Soon people will forget and that usually solves all the problems.

Cheers!
diplomat:

Two RCMP whitewashers were sent to Poland to gather smear material. Poland thought they would reciprocate, and allow Polish officials to conduct an investigation. Oppal is withholding permission.

Oppal also interfered with judicial disposition of the torture conviction of Saxon Peters (RCMP). The Lib friendly Vancouver media refuse to cover that brazen politically motivated coverup. Oppal has decided to run for office once again. An AG is supposed to be politically neutral.
Actually diplomat, you're right,the part where everyone forgets what has taken place is the part that really concerns me.
Because that is exactly what the RCMP,the government,and all concerned would like us all to do!
And they are not far wrong because that's what usually happens.
And so does Wally Oppal....and his boss, and we all know who that is!
I think some of the individual cases will be forgotten over time but what won't be forgotten is how tainted the RCMP is.

Then again now that more of the public/world are seeing just how tainted it is it shouldn't be forgotten too easily.
Hey Heidi.....Try and Google Fred Quilt. I remember him. Nothing new under the sun.
Truth, thanks again! Andyfreeze, far too many people have become *jaded* after watching the news and the inability for real justice to prevail for the longest time.

They just can't be bothered to pay closer attention to things that don't concern them directly and personally any more.

Four burly RCMP and a hungry, thirsty and distraught immigrant clutching a stapler to his chest...a confrontation of epic disproportion. A nightmare scenario. Help!



Amen to that diplomat!
Thanks Harbinger. I found this so far if anybody wants to listen...will do more later.

http://archives.cbc.ca/society/native_issues/clips/15989/
can anyone help here. i thought i heard on the news that poland may be able to get these four over there for a trial since the victim was polish.can anyone verify this?
Polish law requires investigation of any death of their citizens. That government allowed RCMP whitewashers to investigate in Poland, but Wally Oppal is refusing to reciprocate.

qwaszxter:

Where did you get the info on the Peters' case? None of the case law references note the disposition. Two weeks ago, the AG's goofs announced that the case was to be decided by a Special Prosecutor. The press release says nothing of why Oppal interfered with a judicial disposition. I smell political motivation. Maybe Peters was promised an even sweeter deal.

Note: no BC cop has spent even 1 second in jail for crimes committed on duty, since the notorious Robert Nixon case, where a man was crippled by sadistic cops in Vancouver's city jail. Ironically, the cops who shielded jailed Provincial Court judge, Ramsey, from justice for years, themselves were shielded from justice.
Thanks qw. That case should be front page news.

I would like to know why Peters rejected the sentence. Would he do that if he wasn't promised a walk? I smell political manipulation in an election year.
"Somewhere along the way in peace-loving Canada, the deal's broken down. Too many times in the recent past, the police have crossed the line and seemingly become..."

http://www.piquenewsmagazine.com/pique/index.php?content=Maxed+out+1610

One more voice.