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Contributors Want Opinion250 To Lead A Pot Hole Protest

By Ben Meisner

Monday, April 06, 2009 03:50 AM

Numerous 250 readers have asked Opinion250 to develop a page that would deal with the matter of Pot holes.

We at 250 would be prepared to create such a page to enable contributors to deal with their concerns about pot holes and how they believe the issue should be addressed.

Remember if you’re going to Council, you will need to offer a solution to the problem and  what and how you expect the problem can be solved. IE: money, equipment, capital spending re directed, etc, etc.

We will put the items together in a presentable manner and have one of you take it to Council.

Please respond to ben@opinion250.com off line and I’ll get going

Ben Meisner


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I think this is a great idea, however I read in a previous article that to develop the revenue needed to fix the pot holes, PG residents would have to take something like a 10% tax increase??? In that case, I'd rather keep dodging the pot holes. I'm pretty good at it now.
Thank you Ben.

Now about the potholes.
the problem with the streets is that the volume and the vehicle size has greatly outgrown the original design of our roads.
The residential streets that are in need of attention are just that. They have been ignored for far too long.
There needs to be an annual remediation program for the worst residential streets.
Prioritize based on hazard then the ones in the worst condition.
I would classify a residential street the same way the snow removal crew does.
Which ones are the worst?
Go back through the records for the last 10 to 15 years and see where the patch crews have been the most. Pave the street.

For the main arteries that are noticeably in disrepair.
These were initially two-lane roads that were expanded to accommodate more traffic.
There is more traffic. Much more and therein lies the problem.
There is more and heavier traffic.
The road beds at the major intersection need more than a repave. They need to be built to much higher volume and weight handling specifications. Proper ballast at the start then built up to grade that would accommodate at least six inches of reinforced concrete topped with the signal sensors and paved and packed like it was a six lane high volume roadbed.

Put extra effort into the major intersections and this would go a long way towards dramatically reducing the appearance of pot holes at those intersections. Really, it is the major intersections that are the most need of remediation.

Fifth from central to downtown needs to be built like a major highway, because that is effectively what it is.

Fifteenth is holding, but is showing signs of wear. That also needs to be built like a major highway.

Massey is now falling apart due to high volume of traffic especially from the PGSS turn off to the intersection at Parkwood.
There is no need for any tax increases!
Stop pissing away tax dollars trying to be a big city and focus on real necessities like infrastructure.

Also, make infrastructure maintenance an ongoing continuous process. There is not one bit of infrastructure that does not need maintenance, plan for it, don't wait till it's an eyesore or a hazard.

Plan to rebuild the highest volume roads every so many years, say ten.
If you do not know which ones to work on review the work orders and records from the last ten years and find the ones with the most frequent repairs.
"Remember if you’re going to Council, you will need to offer a solution to the problem and what and how you expect the problem can be solved."

What is wrong with this picture? I am already doing enough technical and management volunteer work for City Hall and end up working on projects the City should have staff working on.

Please everyone, quit making excuses for a very poorly run City! Dan Rogers was a poor choice to run this City. We saw what he did as a councilor, and we made him stand in the corner for 3 years! So, what did you really expect to happen in Mr. Roger's neighborhood now???
My main question is who monitors the quality control on the paving companies that pave our streets? I suspect we are not getting what we pay for. Prime example is ospika 15th ave. to massey. How many times has this stretch been paved in the last 20 years? Also warranty work was attempted also. While I'm at it the last time this stretch was paved ALL the man holes were 2 inches below surface as bad or worse than pot holes what gives?
You are bang on kendoo. That is the first place to start. Get someone who knows what good pavement looks like and get it done over again. Once we have that, the battle might be winnable.