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BC-STV and the Charlottetown Accord of 1992

By Peter Ewart

Wednesday, April 22, 2009 03:45 AM

Recently, I read about an Angus Reid poll on the upcoming BC-STV referendum showing that the appetite of people in BC for electoral reform remains keen. In the poll, 64% indicated that they would vote yes for BC-STV. Young people were especially in favour, with a staggering 74% going for the proposed new electoral system.
 
In the last referendum in 2005, almost 58% of the votes and 97% of the ridings – a clear majority – voted in favour of BC-STV. The only reason why the new electoral system was not adopted then and there was that the bar was set high for the vote (requiring 60% of the votes in 60% of the ridings for approval). 
 
So why do the numbers consistently show that BC voters want to change the electoral system?
 
One reason most certainly has been the process that was followed, i.e., the formation of a Citizens’ Assembly. People liked the fact that ordinary citizens were being charged with the task of recommending what kind of electoral system the province should have. Instead of politicians and political parties deciding, it was ordinary voters. This innovative approach struck a chord with voters of all political persuasions.
 
A second reason has been that the electoral system the Citizens’ Assembly chose – BC-STV – has clear advantages over the existing “First Past the Post” system, including providing more proportionality and fairness, but especially giving more power and choice to voters. To truly empower voters, more electoral reform will be needed in the future. Nonetheless, BC-STV is a definite step toward that goal.
 
But there is a third reason and it runs deep. For a very long time, many Canadians and British Columbians have been dissatisfied with the political process at both the federal and provincial levels. 
 
Time and again, voters have complained that parties and candidates say one thing when running in elections, but do another once elected to office. Furthermore, that the electoral process is too party-dominated at the expense of voters, that it is not proportional enough, and so on. In a nutshell, that the process is elitist, that voters are dis-empowered rather than empowered.
 
This dissatisfaction was expressed in a most stunning and spectacular way back in 1992 with the federal referendum on the Charlottetown Accord. The Charlottetown Accord was supposed to have formed the basis of a new Canadian Constitution. 
 
This Accord was cooked up behind closed doors by the Prime Minister of the day, Brian Mulroney, and the provincial premiers, with the support of the opposition parties. It was all supposed to be a “slam dunk,” with voters meekly falling into line and rubberstamping the Accord that, as the political leaders claimed, would “save Canada.”.
 
But what a miscalculation it was. From the beginning, people felt that the process was anti-democratic and elitist. In its arrogance and haste, the federal government hadn’t even bothered to make sure that copies of the Accord were in the hands of voters in a timely fashion so that they could read it and make an informed decision to cast their ballot.. 
 
Indeed, in some parts of the country it got so bad that a strange phenomenon developed whereby opponents of the Accord – who were all volunteers - paid out of their own pockets to print copies because voters couldn’t get any from the government. 
 
And there were a lot of opponents. I was in Ontario at the time and involved with the “No” side. It was made up of people who came together from across the political spectrum and from all walks of life. What united this ragtag army of volunteers was the desire for a democratic and empowering process and a democratic and empowering constitution, not one that was elitist and thrown together behind closed doors by politicians and government leaders.
 
It was a David and Goliath battle. On one side, were the federal and provincial governments with their huge advertising budgets and colossal resources, supported by the political parties in Parliament and the big newspaper and television monopolies. 
 
On the other side, was a large collection of mainly ordinary people (along with a few prominent ones) from across the country who had come together with little or no funding, few resources, and no government apparatus at their disposal . But they had a belief. And it was a powerful one – that the people of Canada should determine what the Constitution of the country should be, not the political and economic elites.
 
Meetings and debates were organized in hundreds of cities. On the “no” side, enthusiastic volunteers wrote up literature, and just as quickly photocopied and widely distributed it. They hit the streets and organized countless public debates, kitchen meetings and other events. Above all, they engaged people in discussion, educating them about the positions of both the “yes” and “no” sides, and providing analysis, so that people could make an informed decision.
 
The “yes” side, which had all kinds of access to the deep pockets of government and the main political parties, had few volunteers. Instead, it mainly relied on a blizzard of glossy and expensive ads in newspapers, radio and television, and a bunch of sleek politicians warning of “chaos” and “the break up of Canada” unless the Accord was adopted.
 
At one point, Prime Minister Brian Mulroney referred to opponents of the Accord as “enemies of Canada.” In addition, in Ontario, dirty tricks were used such as getting speakers from the “no” side excluded from public debates. 
 
Nonetheless, the opposition to the Accord spread like a prairie fire across the country. A number of unlikely alliances sprung up and the “no” side picked up momentum. Despite the practically unlimited resources of government, parties and big media, the “yes” side quickly got into trouble. It was downhill for it from Day One.
 
In the course of the referendum campaign, I remember staffing an information table for the “no” side with a couple of others in an open area of a large shopping mall in Southern Ontario. Our table was directly across from the “yes” side table. And the scene was a study in contrasts.
 
All of our campaign finances had come from volunteers, and there wasn’t a lot. Thus our information table had been thrown together with a couple of borrowed card tables and an old tablecloth. Our signs and banners were hand drawn with magic markers. Although our campaign literature had been photocopied on the cheapest plain white paper, it was packed with information, history and analysis. We wanted to educate voters to make an informed voice. And the people ate it up like there was no tomorrow. 
 
The “yes” side, on the other hand, had beautiful campaign material. Big bright signs. Glossy brochures. Professionally crafted banners. Balloons. Streamers. Boxes and boxes of buttons. And, of all things, they had hired a string quartet to play classical music beside their display table. Behind the table were a local MP and several young paid staff from his office.
 
However, there was another thing that glaringly distinguished our table from theirs. We had a long line up of people wanting to get literature and have discussion with us. Their side had almost no one, and that was the way it went the whole day. The string quartet played and played beautiful music, the tunes wafting down the corridors of the shopping mall. But to no avail. People flocked to our rickety little table.
 
It got so bad that a couple of us took pity and wandered over to the “yes” side table to try to cheer them up. The MP scowled and barely grunted out a hello. But the staffers were nice and took our literature. Later after he had gone, we urged them to make an informed choice in their vote. Judging from their faces and body language, I would bet my bottom dollar they voted for our side.
 
In any case, it was on that day that I realized that we were going to win. And that is exactly what happened.
 
The rejection of the Charlottetown Accord was a cataclysmic event in Canadian politics. Among other things, it was the beginning of the end for the Progressive Conservative government. Even foreign newspapers and governments raised their eyebrows. Such an event is rare in politics, where the people of a country defy their national government, the establishment parties and the political class as a whole.
 
But such is the dissatisfaction of the people with the existing political process. People want more control over politicians and more control over government, and they want their will to be more effectively expressed. And that is the third reason, in my opinion, why so many people in BC are saying yes to BC-STV. 
 
All of this being said, polls can go up and down, and referendum campaigns can be volatile. 
 
Just as in the 1992 Charlottetown Accord referendum, the political elites are having trouble getting committed volunteers for the anti – BC-STV side. However, as in 1992, they will most likely dust off some old politicians and party insiders, who, like scarecrows all stuffed with straw and fluttering in the wind, will be planted around the province warning of dire and terrible consequences if BC-STV is passed. 
 
They will also probably mount an expensive and glossy ad campaign in the media. The method is simple. If your message is empty, if your arguments are discredited , try to scare and confuse people, as well as bombard them with glitzy ads.
 
Will all of this be enough to stop the voters of British Columbia from adopting BC-STV? I have my doubts. Why? An old saying coined by Victor Hugo says it all. “There is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come.”
 
Peter Ewart is a college instructor, writer, and community activist. He is also a member of Fair Voting BC, which is supporting BC-STV in the upcoming referendum. Peter can be reached at: peter.ewart@shaw.ca
 
 

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So far all the glitzy hype I've seen has been "for" the adoption of BC-STV. Those of us who can see this is an utterly ridiculous way to try to elect any government, in spite of the conclusions of the Citizen's Assembly, are remaining largely a "silent majority." (And I suspect we are a solid "majority", this time, since most of us have had a good second look at BC-STV, and found it even more wanting than we'd first imagined.) However, we'll have to wait until May 12 to find that out.

So far as the "Charlottetown Accord", (which I, like most of us, also opposed), being dreamed up "behind closed doors", you might want to do a little research into how Confederation itself came about.

And what the actual "intent" of the BNA Act really was, when it was passed by the British Parliament back in 1867.

A great deal has already been done on this by the late J. Walter Kuhl, a former Alberta MP. Whose probing into the whole Constitutional area of Federal-Provincial rights, many years ago, way back when MacKenzie King was PM, revealed there is a very good chance that the "Statute of Westminster" of 1931, the Act which granted Canada and five other British Empire countries complete independence, also legally nullified the original intent of the British North America Act of 1867. And the so-called "confederation" of Canada itself.

And that complete independence was not granted to the "Dominion of Canada" in 1931, but to the nine Provinces that then made up Canada, as separate, individual soveignties instead.

To my knowledge, Kuhl's findings were never refuted, but, in spite of his much later urging to Quebec to make them the basis of a Supreme Court challenge for Provincial sovereignty when its government was pushing for separation, the issue has never been taken to Court.
We may as well vote for it...the politicians want it....and they'll just keep putting it too us until they get it. nag nag nag...kinda like the art gallery in PG...just keep revisiting the issue until you get what you want.
I had to laugh when the Charlottetown Accord was voted down how stupid and dumbfounded all the media talking heads and commentators looked the next day. They had all been in support and talking up the accord and had totally misread the people. I have always found it interesting that I hardly ever seem to hear anything about the Charlottetown Accord from the mainstream media. I guess it might have something to do with showing what pompous fools they really are.
I examined the NoBCSTV website and there are some very convincing arguments against BCSTV.

Question: Wwill there be any opportunity (voting) in the future to go back to the old system of *first past the post* if BCSTV does not fulfil the expectations that its proponents are touting?

Answer: Don't bet on it.
Haven't heard any arguments STV in these comments. Any one care to provide one?


Jim, politicians aren't asking for STV.

After the 1996 election where Campbell lost the election even though he got more popular votes than NDP it was decided reform was needed, until he got a super majority (all but two ridings) in 2001 election. But by then the die was cast, with Citizen Assembly in place and recommendation for STV and then came the lst referendum with a 58% majority in favour of STV or if your prefer, a 58% rejection of the old voting system. A technical loss, but a real win by any measure.

Second vote couldn't be ignored when more people voted for STV than the winner of the election!

Now parties are taking a neutral stance on STV (wouldn't do to appear elitist) and so party hacks are delegated the dirty work to campaign against STV to protect power of political elites with the old voting system.
That's a good point, diplomat. It's kind of like the Australian referendums on whether to retain the monarchy or become a republic. The monarchists have won twice now, which should've settled the issue. But the republicans aren't satisfied, and God knows how many more votes they'll insist on having before people get fed up and give them their way. But if the people find a republic isn't to their liking afterwards, and that it isn't all it's supposed to be cracked up to be....? Will the monarchists ever get a second chance to bring back the Queen...? Not bloodly likely!

So far as STV goes, I'd be willing to see it tried ~ once, mabe even twice. If we then had a chance to vote again go back to FPP if we found what many of us feel will be STV's failings turn out to be true.
socredible,
we may not go back to FPTP from STV but having changed once it isn't a stretch that it could be fine tuned to something else. My bet is like Ireland, once we try it we'll like it. They've been using since the early 1900's and the two attempts to change it were by the parties (elites again) and twice rejected by the voters.
Why not just stick with what we've got and 'fine tune' that instead? Like having a workable "Voter's Veto" for instance. To prevent the leader of a government that has a majority from thinking that we've confered the "divine right of Kings" on him (or her) and his cohorts to do whatever they so desire.

Two issues come immediately to mind. The sale of BC Rail, and the attempted privatization of the Coquihalla highway. The government was NOT given a mandate by the voters to do either.

And it was only the backlash from an agitated public over the deal for the sale of the railway that prevented the latter from happening. And our paying tolls to a private highway operator for the next 60 years to drive on "our" highway. (That former Premier Bill Bennett admitted publicly on TV before the current government was first elected in 2001 that the tolls had THEN already paid for the road.)

Now in regards to issues like these, if there are a signifigant number of people opposed to something the government wants to do, (not necessarily to the Party that forms the government and its other actions ~ no one's suggesting we fight the whole election over again continuously ~ at least I'm not), yet that government is still determined to proceed, then there should be an opportunity to petition to have a direct vote on just what the public does want, BEFORE the government goes ahead with it.

If the government's specific proposal is voted down in a referendum, yet it still feels that there is a vital public need to proceed, (we, the people, do NOT always "know" everything), then let that government go to the polls in a general election on that issue. If it wins, it gets to go ahead.

No electoral system is ever going to be perfect. But what we have now we're all familiar with. And while there may be the occasional aberration that gives one Party virtually all the seats, or continually puts one in as government with a smaller percentage of the popular vote than the combined others got, there is no certainty that STV is going to make those we elect any MORE representative of their constituents than what we have now. What we'll most likely get is a hodge-podge that won't be able to do anything effectively, and will end up being only 'representative' of itself.
http://www.nostv.org/team.html

The hockey games comparison at the above site which is questioning the methods of the proposed BCSTV is particularly interesting, in my opinion.

I am still somewhat undecided how to vote on BCSTV, but arguments in favour of just fine tuning what we already have (via referenda and recalls) are getting through to me a lot stronger than the pro BCSTV arguments.
I get deeply suspicious of any politician or political insider who needs to resort to sports analogies to make a point. It means that they don't think you're intelligent enough to get the point and they're dumbing it down for you.


Problem is how politicians behave in government and that behavior is determined by how they are elected. With present system most seats are “safe” for a party. A win at nomination for the “safe”party means one automatically gets the seat. That means an MLA will always cater to the party leadership and delegates not the voters. A bigger riding with STV allows more than one MLA per riding and the ranking by voters comes into play. There will still be safe seats for parties, but not safe seats for candidates within that party. Candidates from the same party will compete with each other for votes and that’s huge incentive for candidates to work harder on local issues. Vote transfers will stop strategic voting. If you really want to vote Green or Conservative – you can make it your first choice with comfort that if you rank enough candidates (it’s up to voter when to stop) your vote will still be applied to a candidate. It's like having run-offs to determine winners but you have decided in advance who will get your vote in priority.
FromTheSticks: "I get deeply suspicious of any politician or political insider who needs to resort to sports analogies to make a point."

I don't think that you took the time to actually look at the point someone is trying to make or you would have commented on that - rather than worry about the thoughts of politicians in respect to other people's intelligence or the lack of it.

How do you know if the writer was a politician? Are all those who pen an opinion about BCSTV scheming politicians?

I thought that it was a concept which people from all walks of life can state an opinion about, pro and con.

Perhaps not.
I thought the sports analogy was quite appropriate. It seems to me that there is a very small, but quite dedicated vocal group pushing hard "for" STV. And they'd like us to think that most British Columbians are still on their side. That if they can just create the image they're going to "win" this time, the public will be sure to back a winner. I think it's a case of "hope springs eternal" on their part, myself.

Personally, I believe there are far fewer British Columbians who support STV now (now that they understand it ~ as well as anyone CAN understand it), than there were last time. And this referendum will fall far short of the required threshold for passage. Hopefully, when it does, that'll be the end of it. It won't even come close to addressing the 'real' problem with 'political' democracy ~ which is an "economic", not an "electoral" problem.

I haven't seen anywhere near the same organized effort being put out by those opposed. And I'm sure that's not because they think they'd be backing a "lost cause", that the majority are for STV, and want to be rid of FPP. But rather there's more of a general feeling that STV just isn't what most of us really want. And it will be voted down.

Most people I've talked to ARE opposed to it, and are going to vote "No". And ever the more so as they come to understand the type of electoral uncertainty it really entails, and what would follow from that into the Legislature.