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All Pots Need To Be Careful Not to Call The Kettle Black

By Ben Meisner

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 03:45 AM

I don’t want to be a hypocrite so I am not going to say that Former Solicitor John Van Dongen is a felon who should be strung up on the nearest pole because he has had his license lifted for speeding. Had he tried to use his office to escape his convictions,  different matter, but he didn't.

I have had speeding tickets; I think the last one about three years ago, and a few before that. At one time I drove 100,000 kilometres a year and needed in many cases to try and shave off some time getting to my destination, I recall having at least two on my file at one time.

So you say that Van Dongen was Solicitor General and he should know better. There is an argument to be made, but police officers also uphold the law, and I couldn’t begin to count the number of times I have been passed by a police officer, obviously not going to a scene where someone’s life hangs in the balance.

But  let me take that a few steps further, if the police were to set up radar on say highway 97 south, north, highway 16 west, east, any major street in the city, even my street , Highland drive, I will bet a shiny dollar that out of 10 motorists , 8 are driving above the allowed limit. On Highland Drive, I decided to set up my own radar one day, and loe and behold, 17 out of 20 were exceeding the limit by at least 10 kilometres an hour.

That means that a large majority of the driving public speed at the very least to a point where they feel they can escape a ticket. Take Foothills Boulevard for example, the speed limit up the hill is 80 clicks, think about how many people adhere to that.

Yes there may be an argument that Van Dongen, who got 9 tickets in five years, needed to be taken off the road, which he was. He didn’t try to side step the suspension by using his position as Solicitor General and I for one don’t want to call the kettle black... will you?

I’m Meisner and that’s one man’s opinion.


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I don't know if speeding tickets are serious enough to be forced to resign but I have to give him cudos for stepping down. One could possibly say he was slapping the face of his position and employer.
Better than someone else I can think of , who with a criminal record, didn't, and in my opinion has been giving the province the finger ever since.
I agree, BCRacer. Mr. Van Dongen did the right thing in resigning, particularly considering the position he held. The media has often desribed the Solicitor General as "BC's top cop", and this puts him in a little different spot than previous lead-foots in other Cabinets, like the NDP's Moe Sihota, and Social Credit's Phil Gaglardi.

As for Gordon Campbell, he not only showed extremely poor judgement in driving after a day of purposeful binge drinking, but in driving at all while holding the office of Premier.

ANY motor vehicle accidents that were deemed to be his fault while he was Premier would compomise his ability to hold that office, even if he hit something or somebody while stone cold sober.

WAC Bennett always understood this, and always had a driver while Premier.

Other's, former Quebec Premier Rene Levesque, for instance, didn't. As I recall, he ran over and killed someone with his car while Premier, apparently violating a restriction on his licence and driving without his glasses on. And in any other part of the country other than Quebec, the media would've had his head, and rightly so. He got away with it, and kept his job. It should distress us all to see a 'leader' in BC that's been allowed to follow such a poor example, while other members of his Cabinet, like Mr. Van Dongen, have taken the title "Honourable" accorded them much more seriously.
Interesting points Ben. I love how you set up your own radar and noted 17 out of 20 were speeding! Brought a chuckle, but WOW!
I, too, have had several tickets (3 in the last 15 years).
However, I am not the top cop, and 9 tickets in 5 years is far too many.
As much as I hate to say it, I don't see a real comparision with Gordon Campbell.
Our premiere was caught drinking and driving......and apparently he has preformed in a stellar fashion, in this area, to date. Mr. Van Dongen received speeding ticket, after speeding ticket, and only came forward after having his license removed. One could say that Mr. Campbell changed his ways, and Mr. Van Dongen refused to change his ways.
Doesn't really matter who is a nicer guy....both are leaders, but poor role models.
On this day for remembering loved one this "pot" will be mindful on her own driving!
What a very unfortunate situation, but a very honourable way to deal with it.
I say unfortunate because for the most part speeding tickets are a chance which almost everyone takes. Darn few people drive the speed limit everywhere, all the time, and if your busy and you drive a lot, it is easy to enter a reduced speed zone and qualify as excessively speeding.
In this world of "time is money" everything is driven towards going as fast as you can and doing as much as you have time for.

So Mr Van Dongen who is a hardworking committed MLA has to hussle to serve his constituents and live his life at the same time. It definitely looks bad for him to get a couple of speeding tickets, but this does not represent a fault of which hopefully his voters should go against him. He did the right things and the media should not roast him for it.

IMO he is one of the better MLAs that this province has had and hopefully he will be put in another cabinet post.

I would rather have trustworthy, ethical, honourable MLAs that I can believe in what they say and do than someone who I cannot trust telling me that they don't ever make mistakes or speed.
I am sure many of us are guilty of having a lead foot...myself included. In 30 years of driving, I've had five speeding tickets, approximately one ticket every five years. Not bad but certainly not good.
If someone is in a leadership role, they must set an example. I can't steer myself away from this point. Why be a leader when your behaviour is opposing the values and standards of your position?
Two of Van Dongen's tickets where for excessive speeding, that's 40 K over the speed limit, I say that is quite serious. As for Campbell its black and white he should have resigned. He should not have been drinking and driving in the first place. No excuses and its not about changing your ways. Just imagine if someone in the NDP had done that, just imagine!
Please correct me if my memory is not serving me properly here.
Politicians who are drunks get to keep their positions.
Other politicians who receive numerous speeding tickets, have affairs, have conflicts of interest have to step down.
What's the message here...if any?
I wonder what proportion of the readership have had some sort of run in with the law? With all the mud flung at politicians it seems funny that suddenly people are calling for anyone in such posiions to live up to a standard we often dont measure up to ourselves. This is mostly partisanship if you ask me.
"let he who is without guilt cast the first stone"
metalman.
Should they not practice what they preach?
Rainbow, I think it is called "Paul Nettleton Syndrome". Speak out against Campbell and loose your job. Or something along that line....if me memory serves me right....
And metalman , I have never drank, even one and drove. Had I, and been convicted, I would have lost my job.....
Speeding .....once in 25 yeards and got a ticket for it....and yes...it was MY FAULT
Given his position, it was the right thing to do. Speeding tickets are one thing, excessive speeding tickets are another and when you are the Solicitor General getting those tickets it takes it to a whole other level.

It would probably be like a reporter committing plagiarism.
Interesting discussion. I guess at the end of the day, if you can look at yourself in the mirror and say truthfully "I tried my best" then it's all good. Noone is perfect, especially our leaders.
Our leaders should lead by example, or step down.
So what? If that is all we have to worry about is some politicians drivers license, I'd say the world is in pretty good shape. Taliban notwithstanding.
Speeding bad!.......Driving while sh#tfaced okay?