"The question of changing the design, the location and possibly the cost of the project will not be discussed at this stage"

So is there a stage in the future of this project where these questions could again be raised?

Yes there is. However, there will be more work done down a path which one may not have to go down.

"Dominion Fairmile (which has the design contract) is expected to come back to Council in the fall with a revised report on the costs of construction."

At that time the question will be asked again and the entire project could be opened up for questions. This is not the end of the process yet.

Dictator Dan Says? Isn't this supposed to be a democratically run council? Shut down the Cadillac, Build a 46 million dollar expanded copshop, build a 40 million dollar performing arts center. We are an economically ravaged community with a declining population. Why do we even need a new copshop Mayor Dan? You should remember you were voted in to save money. Time to start earning your keep!!!

Interesting times. New blood on city council, not afraid to speak his mind.
Perhaps Mr. Stolz has a backbone, and is not afraid to use it! That would make him different from a large number of those who enter politics. Good politics requires that you toe the party line, independent thinkers see things a little differently. Observe carefully the differences evident between those who have made it on their own (in business) and those who have worked for a salary most of their careers, with all the benefits included. No offense intended, unless you happen to be involved in politics.
metalman.

Heil Rogers.

Do they need a new Building, most of them could work out of there home, we do live in the 21th Century having high speed Internet, there really is no need to drive to your shift to the Shop and your Paperwork can be done at home to, new Ways are needed to do your Work, bigger Buildings are not the Answer.

Dan was elected to Lead this City, make things happen, not to be re-hashing old decisions. We don't need a Mayor and council thats stuck on studies, we need action, make a decision and move on!

Good job Dan!

When one becomes a Councillor one agrees to abide by the rules of conduct of Council. It is expected that some have a steep learning curve.

Councillor Stolz had time to debate the issue when the issue was being debated. Whether his intent was a good one or not was no longer the question last night.

One has to come to Council ready to debate. If one feels that they need more time, they can request it and the rest of the Councillors will decide whether the request is reasonable and it can be tabled.

The quickest way to get something tabled is to ask a question which those administrators present cannot answer to your satisfaction. As a result, it will typically be tabled till a report is produced.

I am sure with a few more instances like that he will be ready to take on Council having a good command of the tools at his disposal. Have patience.

He and any others will get their opinion heard when the matter returns with more information in the fall. We must remember, that is where this is at. By that time Councillor Stolz will likely be more prepared.

In fact, any wise consultant and City administrator will be following Council and will have heard Councillor Stolz's idea about moving the Emergency Operations Centre and should be prepared to respond to that. If that has not been done, expect another delay unless the rest of Council votes against that.

I am sorry to take the wind out of the sails of thsoe who speak of "Dicttor Dan"

Here is what section 132 states:
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Authority of presiding member
132 (1) The mayor or the member presiding at a council meeting must preserve order and decide points of order that may arise, subject to an appeal under this section.

(2) On an appeal by a council member from a decision of the presiding member under subsection (1), the question as to whether the chair is to be sustained must be immediately put by the presiding member and decided without debate.

(3) As exceptions to section 123 [general voting rules],

(a) the mayor or other presiding member may not vote on a motion under subsection (2),

(b) the motion passes in the affirmative if the votes are equal, and

(c) the mayor or other presiding member must be governed by the result.

(4) If the mayor or presiding member refuses to put the question under subsection (2),

(a) the council must immediately appoint another member to preside temporarily,

(b) that other member must proceed in accordance with subsection (2), and

(c) a motion passed under this subsection is as binding as if passed under subsection (2).

It is one of the many rules that Council must follow.

Had the Mayor not deemed this out of order, then it would have set a precedent for the future conduct of Council and created a circus of Council's business conduct.

Councillor Stolz did not seem to be familiar with 132 since he would otherwise have noted the statement: "the question as to whether the chair is to be sustained must be IMMEDIATELY put by the presiding member and decided WITHOUT DEBATE."

Thus, technically, he was out of order one more time.

I agree with you metalman. Out of order on not at least someone in council has some balls

Good info gus.

So while the article is titled "Mayor Cuts Short Effort to Rethink RCMP Project" it could have just as easily been titled "Mayor Does His Job and Follows the Established Rules of Council". Yeah, what a dictator, LOL.

I agree with the concept of adhering to rules of order, but applaud someone who is willing to stick his neck out and try to make a counter point, even if he is out of order in doing so. It could be that we need a more radical approach to break out of the mould, something like: listen to the majority of your taxpayers, or rely less upon out of town experts. Stolz was out of order, but he apparently acknowledged that fact after it was pointed out to him. I only hope that it does not dissuade him from speaking out again.
metalman.

Gus:
Your eloquence and vast knowledge are apparent to anyone that has been reading this site for any amount of time. You have strong opinions and are not afraid to express them. Some I agree with, some I don't. Surely you have been in upper management at some point in your career or at least operated a business. Your derisive statements regarding city council and the Mayor, both past and current, are filled with contempt.
WTF are you not on council?
Why are you not involved with at least some community committees.

Your skill set is exactly what is missing from our city governance. Maybe then we could have a strong voice with adequate cahonas.

All the other members simply yawn and put their rubber stamp "yes" down firmly. Count their 27,000 dollars at the end of the year, and all is well in the neighborhood.

Loki:
Thanks for the observations. I think you make many comments I appreciate for their insight.

"WTF are you not on council?" I think you answered that yourself with the sentence before that question you posed.

"Why are you not involved with at least some community committees." Why do you assume I am not? I am and have been for some 20 years at least.

Supertech - you are so very wrong. If you have no knowledge of what really goes on with all of the elected members then you should shut your pie hole.

Everyone of those people - like them or not spends hours and hours and hours of their own time trying to make this city a better for all of us.