There are endless lawyer jokes out there waiting to happen, but I hope they catch the two wastes of skin for doing what they did.

My God what a savage assault. What a divide of the classes we have in Prince George. It is just going to get worse and more violent.We need jobs here people.

Let's hope he'll be ok.
Hopefully he is not one of them lawyers who helps the aboriginals with the land and other made up claims, this would be one really bad experience. This what we
get for treating the aboriginals special.
They may not even get one day in jail
for this crime.
Prince Gorge downtown could look forward
for these kind of attaks as the last few
months news describes it.

What no name? what kind of journalism is this? Shouldn't we know all the stuff.MAybe this will be reported for the next three or four days like all the RCMP stuff?

Wow, brutal. As someone who uses that bank machine all the time in the evenings, this is one scary story. Hopefully there were some cameras in that area that caught everything.

chris, your asinine comments on here continue to astound.
We need jobs here? Do you really think these guys would be working if you walked up and offered them a job right now?

"It is just going to get worse and more violent.We need jobs here people."

Ya, it's the lack of jobs that made these two POS not only rob him but beat him savagely.

No it isn't, they wouldn't work if they could. I bet they don't have an education therefore no jobs.

Thanks for taking the words out of my mouth, interceptor.

Three of us sitting here talking. could of been targeted. Natives gangs from out of town. On the watch here.

If he was a defense lawyer, this may jade him into becoming a prosecution lawyer. And if he becomes a judge one day, he may be one of them rare "hangin' judges". Here's hoping.

It is not the practise of either the media or the police to give the name of the victim. He is an innocent bystander who is fighting to regain his health.
If he had been killed and the family okayed it, his name would have been released. From some of the comments why in the world would you identify him?
Perhaps some of you should read your comments before you post them and ask the question if it were you who had been subject to such a beating would you be posting in that manner.
As for the comments of BC racer, now if you had been caught speeding , we would have used your name, but then you would be the victim, and in your mind the speeding police officers should be treated different.

just goes to show how cowardly they are.
surely the band has survelance cameras?

the bank not band in last comment

'The two who assaulted him are described as Native males, one is 5’7” tall and about 170 lbs, the other is 5’6” tall and 200 lbs'

That certainly narrows it down.

There are hardly any Native males hanging around aimlessly downtown.

Maybe they were wearing something distinctive, like dark hoodies.

Now Chris thinks it was targeted which leaves two options:
One - Chris is talking out his a$$ as usual
Two - Chris has information that the police should have

My best wishes to this man and his family. Heres hoping to a speedy recovery and hopefully these guys can be brought to justice.

Yes, I wish him a speedy recovery and
hope, he can identify the attackers
and bring them to justice.

Just a guess mate.

If we as a society would mete out an appropriate sentence in jail for those people who continously break the law, then a lot of this problem would be solved.

We need a low tolerance or no tolerance for Breaking and Entering, Assualt causing bodily harm, shoplifting, drug dealing etc;. We need to enforce the laws that we have on the books, and put some of these people away for a while.

We all know that the downtown area is infested with drug dealers, drunks, hookers, etc; etc; etc;., however we choose to ignore the problem.

It seems that we are more concerned about the cost of incarceration than we are about law and order. Its within the realm of possibility that the people who assualted this Lawyer have criminal records, and probably had the law been applied to its fullest for the crimes they have already committed, they would be in jail, and this incident would never have happened.

You cant allow people to disregard or flaunt the law on a regular basis over the years, and not expect to have to pay the piper at some point.

The downtown is a problem, because the Police, City, and Citizens of Prince George refuse to deal with it. We pay lip service to law enforcement. The Provincial Government doesnt want to build more jails and hire more people to run them.

A few laws that are ignored on a regular basis would be. Drunk and Disorderly in a public place/. Indecent exposure. Possision of a narcotic ie; crack, meth, herion, whatever, assault, riding bikes without helmets, shoplifting, etc; If we dont enforce the laws on the books, then the crooks win.

In a town of 70,000 people, of which 98% are law abiding citizens, it shouldnt be a big deal to clean out the lawbreakers. Why doesnt it happen???

Keep ignoring the problem, and one of these days these dudes will be coming through your front door.

This kind of shit disgusts me. Cowardly. The worst part about it, is that every time I see native teens walking around town, all I do is think of them in a negative manor. I don't want to do that. Trust me I don't. But how am I not supposed to? This kind of crap makes me so angry. This guy probably has a wife and kids. He works for a living, pays taxes, contributes to society and these waste of skin SOB's kick the shit out of him?

Something's wrong here folks.

Yup, sure is. Palopu has it right.

I say let the punishment match the crime as soon as they are found. It should be a public beating, downtown in the daylight, in front of the courthouse so the rest of the bottom-feeders can witness it.

Palopu has it totally right. Gary Long is mostly right. Though I don't agree with the stereotyping, I'll admit that it took some balls for Mr. Long to say what he did, considering a very large part of his audience is probably "native teens".

Gary Long you said it.

I wonder how much in welfare/social programs and other benefits these scumbags have collected in their lifetimes. The whole of downtown is held hostage daily by creeps like this and that is an irrefutable fact. Now this poor citizen has had to pay not only with his taxes but with his blood too.

Yeah, I said it.

Moses
there are all kinds of natives hanging around downtown day AND night as well as druggies, dealers both native and white...and its often the same two or three dozen,,,they make it bad for the other 82,000 of us. Time the new police chief took some decisive action together with the courts and City Hall before our city becomes the northern equivalent of the Downtown East Side. Also time to shut down all the social services that rely on this for their existence.

I am nor native or a teenager. I could be anyone living downtown

For the record, I do realize that these cowardly acts are not always commited by "native teens" and I don't mean to sterotype as I did. It just seems that's what I'm always hearing. Anyone in general who commits a cowardly act like this, is just that.....a bloody coward. Why should we have to start packing weapons on our person if we want to take money from a bank machine? I feel so safe......NOT.

So sad.

I went downtown to the bank at midnight with a friend to get money out of bank machine. I seen a native dude hanging at the machine inside the bank area just hanging at the machine. I think it was him for sure. My friend says naw way. I say yah way. He would be stupid enough to go there. He got away with it that time. It's like a killer who kills once. Easy to kill again right.

R.C.M.P are stupid. Get out of BC. Get some real cops. These jokers can't solve a puzzle never mind a crime.

Cops are too busy checking out the rafters to look after downtown. I don't go "downtown" for anything any time of the day or night. It's just a s**t hole in my opinion.

then I hope you know how to handle anything that happens to you and your family there chrislivingdowntown, don't phone the police when you have a problem.

This happens weekly downtown and has for years... we just don't always hear about it until it happens to a lawyer.

Why not dress up as a weakling and walk around downtown alone with a wire and a pack of your own ready to spring on them... it would solve the problem fairly quickly I suspect. Wouldn't take much more than a night to find the culprits, as that is who they pry on.

Large Broom needed and Trash Bin, I have given up to go downtown, except to the Library and you do get the feeling you are being watched when parking.

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Another reason for DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION..... More of us regular people down there would just boost the crime stats as we get mugged. Oh wait a sec the cops are making up their own crime stats now, it wasn't that long ago they were bragging how crime was waaaaaay down. Yeah sure!

Another reason to avoid the downtown. Hope the cowards are caught.

well hers my solutiuon to the problem in all of bc. let pick an island off the coast, say up near the queen charlottes. throw all the scum there, let them fend for themselves, and make a reality tv show out of it. i would watch it. lol

Build a Homeless shelter about 100km from any town or city with fencing like a jail anybody roaming the streets at night without a good reason gets taken to that shelter do random searches for drugs and weapons have a big farm in there with animals, gardens and make them work and provide for themselves.We would have a safer town.

As the economy deteriorates, so do the commentaries.

The race card gets played, even though it has nothing to do with why it happened.

The most dangerous men in town are 98% white. That's a fact.

They didn't do it because they weren't afraid of the consequences. They did it because they expected to not be caught.

They are likely crackheads, coming down and looking to get high again.

Crack brings with it a violent culture. It is a very compelling drug. We would do ourselves a big favor to shut them down and keep shutting them down.

Lastly, this is not a minor offence, it is Aggravated Assault and Robbery and will carry jail time in the Federal system (anything more than 2 years).

All for the sake of being high and being desperate to continue the high.

My best wishes to the man involved for a speedy and full recovery.

Our lack of a justice system does not help matters.
I heard on the news this morning where a p.o.s. (name of Yarrow Blaine, is what it sounded like to me) convicted of violent sexual assault was released "because he had served the mandatory two thirds of his sentence" and is eligible for release. This scum has been in trouble with the law most of his life, often for the same types of crime, why would our system let him go?
It seems obvious that he will offend again. The native males that beat up the lawyer; if they are caught and convicted, waht would their 2/3 sentence amount to? a year at best is my guess, with credit for time in remand, more b.s.
metalman.

BC Racer I would go tot the mob or the street before I would go to the R.C.M.:P. What makes you think I have a family anyways. Sounds to me like it's you that is out of touch.

This what we
get for treating the aboriginals special.

Now how does treating someone special and crime fit together. Inquiring minds want to know.

I'm in agreement with Gary Long to. Every time I see white people, I'm afraid disco dancing and bowling might break out, and I can't do neither of those things.

I do not understand why, but every now and then I have to remind people that the statistics of incraceration rate and crime rate do not correlate very well when one compares one country to another, especially when we compare ourselves to our neighbour to the south.

Gut reaction only, without some knowledge of what actually happens in the real world of crime, "punishment", incarceration, recidivism, incapcitation, etc. thoughts that dominate on this topic. But it could not be further from what actually happens.

Are Europeans that much different from North Americans? What is it that causes them to have both lower incarceration rates and crime rates in many instances? I would look for my solution overseas rather than aping those south of us with their "wild west" heritage, one we absolutely do not share.

Sweden = 65 prisoners per 100,000 population - 3 homicides/100,000 population

Canada = 140 prisoners per 100,000 pop. - 15 homicides/100,000 population

USA = 529 prisoners per 100,000 pop - 42 homicides/100,000 population

Moral of the staistics? Put more people in prison and increase your homicide (violent crime) rate.

chrislivingdowntownot out of touch at all. Excuse me for thinking you had a family.
Are there those in the police force who maybe shouldn't be there...you bet, as with any job in this world. Am I going to brand the rest of those who do their job with the same iron as I might, those who don't and or give their occupation a bad name...not likely.
3 out of what, 150, in Prince George...messed up, that make the rest of the force bad??? no..definitely not.
nor am I going to condem any other occupation because ths have bad representaives either...
Had these three bike rides not be RCMP members I doubt we would have even heard about the event.

"Moral of the staistics? Put more people in prison and increase your homicide (violent crime) rate."

Or it could be that Sweden has better access to education, health and social safety net; Canada second and the USA the least.

Gus has the cause and effect wrong. It's it more likely that there are more incarcerated because there is more crime, rather than more crime because there are more incarcerated?

Isn't it, rather.

I still have difficulty sometimes believing the ignorantly stupicd comments that some of you race bigots spout.

Do you really mean to tell me that there has never been an occasion when a white male beat up another white male and stole money from him? Crap! The physical description is for ID reasons. It does not mean that all first nations are criminals and it does not mean that all crimes are committed by first nations people.

Of course, when its drugs you all spout of your garbage about a different race, dont you?

God, what a bunch of losers!

Gus, you cant have it both ways. If the rest of us cant use crime stats from other countries either can you! I doubt there is mouch common ground between us and ANY european country as far as history, culture, degmegraphy, etc.
There are some comments here that are pushing the limits of political correctness as far as race are concerned. Of course, it is par for the course that someone feels the need to label people as bigots, perhaps in an effort to stifle them. It isnt racism to state that crime rates amoung native canadians are higher than those amoung the rest of the populace. It would, however be racist to suggest that natives are a race of criminals. Its a fine line but freedom of speech ought to protect our right to state the former.
While this is a story of two criminals attacking a citizen, it is also a story about race relations. I dont think the crooks in this case attacked the victim because he was white. I dont think the people calling for the crooks blood are doing so because they are native. Lets keep it that way, and only a fool would call it racial bigotry.

My moral of the story based on the stats was, of course, tongue in cheek.

What is more factual is that incarceration, or the threat of it, is not a deterrent or preventative. Commoner is much more on track with what is the cause of low crime rate.
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Caranmacil ... what do you mean the rest of us??? There are many stats that are compared internationally. There are some problems associated with that. For instance, Sweden's homicide stats include homicides of Swedish citizens who are killed outside of Sweden.

As far as things in common with other countries goes, that is not the issue. The issue is how many people get killed by others. The reason there are substantial differences in some cases can then be explored. Upbringing, family structure, culture, community, justice system, financial security, etc. That is when these things can be explored.

The cultural difference of the "wild west" in the USA is certainly one of the reasons for the difference in violent crime rates between here and the USA.

thereasonableman wrote, "The race card gets played, even though it has nothing to do with why it happened."

Actually it does. If it were two white men beating on a native outside an ATM for money, it would be a race issue. Since it was two natives beating on a white man, race doesn't even get mentioned on most news reports.

"The most dangerous men in town are 98% white. That's a fact."

It's a made up fact, that doesn't make it true.

"Of course, it is par for the course that someone feels the need to label people as bigots, perhaps in an effort to stifle them. It isnt racism to state that crime rates amoung native canadians are higher than those amoung the rest of the populace."

There was no intent to stifle people, the intent was to publicly identify them as racist bigots. Neither of the racist bigot comments mentioned comparative rates of crime among non-natives compared to natives, so that suggestion is just a distractor which appears to be reasonable but is actually completely irrelevant to what I said.

The comments I consider to be racist are the first two below. The third one is so close as it infers a link between race and criminal behavior, but doesn't actually say it.

If people want to discuss racial issues in a legitimate manner, then I suggest that racial respect is the very first thing that should come through, not an inference that race and criminality are inherently associated with each other.

The racist comments:
"I went downtown to the bank at midnight with a friend to get money out of bank machine. I seen a native dude hanging at the machine inside the bank area just hanging at the machine. I think it was him for sure."

"Hopefully he is not one of them lawyers who helps the aboriginals with the land and other made up claims, this would be one really bad experience. This what we get for treating the aboriginals special."

Very close to the line but probably not over it. "Moses there are all kinds of natives hanging around downtown day AND night as well as druggies, dealers both native and white...and its often the same two or three dozen"

I can't help but believe that if the City was SERIOUS about revitalizing the downtown core, we would see LESS of these types of incidents.

If there is one thing that criminals love (and that's criminals of any race), it's the ability to "run the streets" and be the main presence in an area. They HATE crowds, they HATE being surrounded by law abiding citizens, they HATE having witnesses around and they HATE the odds of being thumped on themselves if they were to try this kind of crap when there were others around who would be willing to step in and defend the poor guy being attacked. In short, criminals don't like hanging out with normal people and they hate being outnumbered.

Want to reduce crime in the downtown core? Make it a place that EVERYONE wants to go. In many ways, we've contributed to this issue ourselves by our constant desire to live in the suburbs and the peripheries and to develop our city at the outskirts and not the core. We've made some very deliberate choices about how our City has developed and the by-product is that it has created a zone that criminals and thugs just love and that the average person despises.

I think everyone needs to remember some of these big picture issues the next time a discussion about downtown revitaliztion comes up . . .

Sadly, NMG, your ideas are not new concepts. How many years have we been saying stuff like "We need to make the downtown somewhere people want to go". I've lived here a long time and people have said the same old same old stuff for years. Everybody seems to know what the problem is, but nobody will implement the ideas needed for a solution.

Dan Rogers is not the guy who will see the downtown change. He's got no vision or motivation to see things change -- very similar to Kinsley. Maybe our next Mayor will be able to make a difference.

As it stands right now, if I had a business, downtown would be the absolute last place I would want to locate.

Catch them, Cane them, lock them up... 20 years hard labor in a Mexicain prison!

We need to contract out our prisons to Mexico. Some years ago Mexico offered to house them for us at $ 5,000 per year i think it was.

Time to fight back!!!!!

NMG breaks the chain by making a sensible, intelligent comment.

I don't think there is much intent on dong anything with the down town area....they have been talking this to death for so long it is beginning to sound like a really bad echo...This has been ongoing for so long I can't remember when it started...but a long time...
so if that is what they want to do get with it...