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Report from Parliament's Hill - Sept. 4th, 2009

By Prince George - Peace River M.P. Jay Hill

Friday, September 04, 2009 03:44 AM

“Canadians Don’t Want Another Election”
 
Michael Ignatieff just doesn’t get it.  Canadians don’t want an election less than a year after the last one.
 
More importantly, a federal election will most certainly stall the economic recovery that our nation has just begun to experience.  In fact, the markets and the Canadian dollar dropped immediately after Mr. Ignatieff held his press conference this week to announce he was determined to bring down our Conservative Government and prompt an election this fall.
 
Mr. Ignatieff is creating uncertainty and instability with just the threat of an election.  If an actual election campaign were to take place, all federal legislative and economic business would virtually come to a halt for three months.  That’s bad for the country at this fiscally-critical time and it’s bad for the pocketbooks of Canadians.
 
So why are the Ignatieff Liberals pushing an unwanted election on Canadians – a pointless exercise that will cost taxpayers $350-million?
 
First, our Conservative Government’s Economic Action Plan is working!  It’s no coincidence that the day before Mr. Ignatieff demanded an election, Statistics Canada released its figures demonstrating that Canada’s economy grew in June.  This represents an important light at the end of the tunnel amidst this serious global recession.  While our economy has suffered a blow, we have fared better than most nations thanks to our Government’s policies.
 
However, what’s good news for the nation is not good news for Mr. Ignatieff’s political aspirations.  He can’t afford to wait for another set of positive economic figures to be released.
 
The rate of federally-stimulated economic activity taking place throughout Canada the past few months is unprecedented.  Federal investments in infrastructure and business are creating new jobs and long-term opportunities for growth all across the nation. 
The second reason Mr. Ignatieff wants to trigger an election now is that he’s trying to hang on to his majority in the Senate.  He has been using the Liberals in the Senate to block important justice reforms passed by Canada’s duly-elected Members of Parliament.  In the New Year, as more Senators retire, Mr. Ignatieff will lose his power to block the will of Canadians using the Red Chamber.
 
Thirdly, if he waits until 2010, Canadians may have even more reason to feel good about themselves and our country.  History has demonstrated that voters are less likely to vote for change and against an incumbent government when feeling patriotic … and the Vancouver-Whistler Olympics in February will undoubtedly inflame a greater sense of patriotism and excitement across the country.
 
After our Conservative Government proved we are able to govern responsibly and with cooperation by becoming the longest-serving minority parliament in Canadian history, Canadians returned us to power last October with a strengthened mandate.  No one in the REAL WORLD, certainly not in Prince George-Peace River wants another election campaign. 
 
Prime Minister Stephen Harper, our Cabinet and our MPs will not be distracted by Mr. Ignatieff’s call for an opportunistic election.  We remain focussed on our number one priority: protecting Canada’s economy and continuing to implement stimulus measures that will secure hope and prosperity for Canadians.
 

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The conservatives under Harper have the largest deficit in Canadian history of over $50 billion this year and counting.

I've been reading a lot of Russian and Soviet history lately. Its a despicable history to be sure from the bolshevik revolution to the show trials under Stalin, and subsiquent purges that saw the entire ruling class and social class summery executed without trial and replaced by those that were loyal to the Stalinist state... and the collectivizations of farm land that killed tens of millions through starvation, and the more commonly known things like the gulag, and the conintual hunt for traitors and 'terrorist' condemned from a snitch with a vendetta or for having an opinion of their own. It strikes me that its the same playrights of the Soviet Union that are our central actors in global affairs today... they never lost the cold war, they were the victors... the Russian people lost the cold war I guess one could argue, but the playwrights of the show trials have never had to account for their crimes and under the illusion of a soviet collapse are still out their with all their power walking in different suits through other corridors of power. Some people call them neo-cons and others relate them to the banksters, the Russian mafia, or the globalist multinational corporate monopolists.

The point being is that those people got their power to subject hundreds of millions to a degraded life of fear and ethnically cleansed through starvation tens of millions more, and summarily executed with out trial hundreds of thousands more. Very real crimes in recent history all motivated by the ability of a governing power to use fear of a hypothetical threat to retain power and consolidate public policy that was counter to the best interests of a people whom were miss informed at every step.

IMO one look at the WTC#7... and subsequent anthrax attacks... followed by the 'patriot act' and the US Federal Rzeserve asset bubble ponzi scheme shenanigans... and subsequent looting of the US treasury... all strongly indicate to me that the hidden hand isn't so hidden anymore and with crimes that large they will stop at nothing to avoid accountability.

The current economic threat to the global economy is entirely predictible. One only has to closely look at the US Federal Reserve and what they say and do and what their policies are. They print the money that makes the world go around and their money is nothing but paper with trust. If they don't have trust and transparency, then they become the threat by human nature. Canada and Canadian policy has no effect on their actions other than to react. Canadians have had enough of not being consulted on major policy changes in this country and I don't think it is proper to tell Canadians when they should and shuld not have a say in the direction of their country.

The decision lies with the leaders of the opposition where it should. Its irrelevant what Canadians think IMO as per the triggering of a no confidence vote by the opposition parties. The opposition leaders are the ones that are informed and will stand accountable for their decisions to the voters... voters who will then in a hypothetical democracy become informed of the issues where a decision can be made through the election.

IMO the recover so far has been purely financial and purely through fake money created by the US Federal Reserve for the purpose of making the apperance of green shoots to extend their crimes a little further in the hope they can fool everyone. China doesn't buy it and announced last week they are calling all the $500 trillion in US derivatives a fraud on the international system and refuse to honor those contracts. That could be the end of the US Federal Reserve ponzi scheme and there is nothing either Canadian political party can do to stop or mitigate that.

This Canadian supports an election even if I choose not to vote in it for lack of choice. The process is what really counts.
PS an election would be a great way not to get involved in the neo-con attack on Iran that I think all Canadians want to have no part in being involved with... we all know Israel is a lose cannon that will use their nukes with a nervous finger on the switch. Canadians fighting over which loser is going to run the country is much more preferable than being central actors in that play over there.
"So why are the Ignatieff Liberals pushing an unwanted election on Canadians"

Probably for the exact same reason Harper called an election, and broke his own election timing law, the last time. That would be because he thinks he can win.
I wonder if it ever occurs to self-serving PM wannbee's like Ignatieff to actually pay attention to what canadians want?
(mind you,they ALL suffer from that!)
Which would be no election!
Perhaps he is just sick of waiting around for Canada to swoon at his feet as he thought they would,and wants to force the issue.
If he doesn't win,which he won't,he will run back to the U.S. where he feels appreciated perhaps?
Obviously,he cannot comprehend the idea that Canada may not want him as PM?
Or the idea that Canada is not ready to put the Liberals back in office any time soon?
The Liberals can say what they want about Iggy,but he was a major faux-pas for the party!
I voted Liberal all my adult life,but I would not even consider doing it again anytime soon.
They still do not get it!
A little humble pie would go a long way to restoring canadian's faith in them!
All they have now is a realitively unknown,arrogant party leader, with an unknown track record.
Nice try.
"Canadians don’t want an election less than a year after the last one."

I do. And at least unlike the last one, this one would be legal!

"In fact, the markets and the Canadian dollar dropped immediately after Mr. Ignatieff held his press conference this week to announce he was determined to bring down our Conservative Government and prompt an election this fall."

Well I guess the markets gave it some second thought and decided it wasn't such a bad idea at all. Yesterday, with an election looking even more likely after Layton said he wouldn't deal with Harper, the TSX rose 220 points, or 2.1%.
And the survey says???......

http://www.nanosresearch.com/library/polls/POLNAT-S09-T384E.pdf from Nanos Research ... in August....

page 3 ...

58.5% of those polled agreed with the statement: "Stephen Harper has had his chance and it is time for a change.

31.9% agreed with the statement: "Stephen Harper has done a good enough job to deserve re-election"

9.5% = unsure.

http://www.nanosresearch.com/main.asp

Over the month of August under the heading of "best PM" Harper is still ahead at 30% versus Ignatieff at 26%, but he dropped by 3% over the month and Ignatieff dropped by 1% while Layton picked up 2% and May dropped 2% ...

More importantly perhaps is that the economy is sliding as an issue of importance to Canadians, which could be a negative for Conservatives if there were an election called. Health Care is the issue that is moving up rapidly. Who will win an election based on their handling of Health Care?

I think both parties are looking for an opportunity to call or force an election. The Conservatives obviously want to be the ones to name the date. They are watching the numbers just the same as the Liberals are. This stuff they are putting out now is just rhetoric. If they had a good feeling about being able to win a majority, they would dissolve parliament tomorrow. Anyone who thinks otherwise is foolish.
Canadians do not want an election!
Canadians do not want an election!
The sky is falling!
The sky is falling!
Wow! What masters of the obvious. Democracy has a price and it is worth it to get rid of a bad leader that boots and stomps on Canadians rights like he has a %99 majority.And yes; a coalition would be a good solution.
Oh crap!
Sorry!
Casting pearls before swine again!
Everyone have a good safe weekend!
Well said gus!
Eagleone wrote: "This Canadian supports an election even if I choose not to vote in it for lack of choice. The process is what really counts. "

If you don't vote, you're part of the problem and you've lost the right to complain and spout off, which you do a lot of on this site.

Anyway, if and when an election is called and we elect yet another minority conservative government, we're back to square one.
Eagleone...you suprise me.
Your posts are normally intelligent and well thought out,even if I don't always agree with you.
Unfortunately,NOT voting is why our political system is in the mess it is!
Nothing justifies not voting.
It is the root of democracy.
If you are reading a lot of Russian and Soviet history,then I am sure you understand exactly where not being ALLOWED to vote usually ends up.
We may not always like the outcome of an election,but at least we know we had our say at the ballot box.
The political controversy in B.C. right now is also what we get when we don't vote!
"Anyway, if and when an election is called and we elect yet another minority conservative government, we're back to square one."

Except Harper will be shown the door for getting absolutely nowhere in two straight elections (I expect that an election now would yield a much smaller Conservative minority). If he couldn't beat Dion for a majority, he'll never get one. The sooner we have an election, the sooner the Conservatives will see that, and the sooner Canada can move on.
I agree with you in part Wolfie,but it is also probably true that the lack of progress by the Harper government, is directly related to the constant opposition by the likes of Ignatieff and Layton combined.
They oppose everything,regardless of whether or not it is a good thing for Canada.
These are the guys who reject budgets before they have even seen them!
If it was not their idea,it goes nowhere in the house!
As opposed to that great conciliator, Mr. Harper...
Same sh*t different pile. Go ahead. Call an election. I won't be voting & I don't watch Canadian tv so I won't be subject to hearing all the drivel. Go ahead & waste some money, you're gonna do it anyway.
Andy I respect your opinion and always have, but I think you are wrong on this one. The Soviets were a democracy too... Stalin always said he supported democracies as long as he was the one counting the votes... so the issue with democracy is not about simply casting votes and having them counted... it goes deeper than that.

Everyone in the soviet union voted and had their chance to legitimize the regime that was terrorizing them... in fact they had to vote by law so that the regime in power could claim its rightful legitimacy in the eyes of the law. Stalin had 99% turnout for his elections. Democracy often can be no different than Stalins show trials in the purpose of providing a theater to display the legitimacy of the regime (ie the BC liberals in this last election). It does not mean in anyway that the screenplay is one conducted by men of free will with the knowledge of the issues being decided upon,... only that all the actors have been coerced to play their part.

What is important is the opportunity to freely choose whether to participate or not in the vote, and if so then for which candidate or party that represent personal interests free from coercion and fear. That is what living in a free democracy means.

It is incumbent upon the politicians to represent, as much as it is upon the voters to vote for a real democracy to work. Thats why our democracy does not work... and to give legitimacy through a vote for the lesser evil is to subsidize a failed political system with your political capital. The fact that half the political capital stays on the side lines is a signal that half the people don't feel represented by any of the available options; as much if not more than it signals a failure for people to respect the concept and consent to rule by democracy. Democracy is sick in the west not because of the voters, but because of the special interest collectivist politicians that have worked to destroy its foundation with their special interest agendas. Blame the politicians and not the potential voters for the problem.

If we had a party that outright banned collectivist politicians and policies and instead stood to represent individuals and small business from the middle class perspective with stimulus structure of the economy, and not stimulus debt spending as the solution, then I have no doubt that they would govern (we almost had that with the original reform before this frankenstein came along). The problem is it is the government unions and multinational corporate monopolists that control the political system and not the middle class majority.

AIMHO
As opposed to that great conciliator, Mr. Harper...