This is great to see people standing up for the right to healthy air.

I have wondered myself why the smell is so much worse between 2-4 in the morning - should be interesting to see what chemicals are getting released at those hours that make myself and others wake up to shut the windows due to noxious smells.

Take one bucket and take a sample from inside a house and then take another bucket, take a sample from outside, then test. Anyone care to guess which bucket would have the worst air sample?

Seamutt, define 'worse' air sample. I would think it all depends on what you're testing for.

Hey, ther soliciting for money, why don't they ask Canfor for funding.

You know, if you don't like the smell, move, we don't want you whinny people here anyway.

He Spoke --- studying if the odour of the air is affecting all of our health here in PG is important -- if industry can improve and help decrease noxious gases that's not a bad thing - and just telling people to move and stop whining is not really an effective strategy. The only two options cannot just be 1)put up with smells that may be toxic or 2)move. That's shortsighted.

"You know, if you don't like the smell, move"

Great argument. So pollution should be allowed to continue, health effects notwithstanding as long as there's a job in it for someone. I see.

Cash donation my ash! That's like donating to block watch or that other policing thing in town. What the hell are we paying all these cops to do? What the hell is the environment ministry's job? To hell with donations--look at your pay stub; you donate enough now!

I suspect that the reason the smell is worse at 4am is because by that time all the smells from the City including car exhausts, etc have died down, and then you get a better smell from the refinery and the pulp mills.

It doesnt mean they are releasing more toxic gases at night, it may just mean that in the wee hours of the morning you can smell what they are releasing better.

No doubt we will find out, so it is pointless to jump to conclusions.

"You know, if you don't like the smell, move, we don't want you whinny people here anyway"

Who is "we" and why do you think that anyone really cares what they think?

Everyone should know the fog drops to the ground at noght for a reason. So does the smell. Your basement smells worse than the rest of your house in the morning if you don't happen to have one of those new totally sealed and antiseptic homes.

FYI people, industry KNOWS they smell. AND they spend millions to improve things so they smell less. What is really stupid about this is WE are paying some dumb Yankee company $500 per test to tell us that the pulpmills are polluting. CHRIST, go ask the pulpmills what they are putting in the air, they report it regularly and it won't cost $500 a test!

Amen, Maverick. This bucket testing thing is one the dumbest ideas I have heard in a long time, right up there with local industry releasing MORE toxic emissions in the middle of the night. Rabid droolings from people who watch too many hollywood movies. Heres your scene; the ceo of canfor sneaks into one of his pulpmills in the dead of night to pull the big lever that releases all the toxic stuff into the unsuspecting air, you know, the stuff that steams and hisses. That way, he gets even richer 'cuz he does'nt have to pay to dispose of the toxic waste. He thinks that none of the simple people that populate this little town will know the difference, BUT! he has been thwarted! the ever vigilant PACHA has caught him! no more dirty tricks, evil man! The bucket brigade will save the day!
Bottom line, if you want the air to be pure and fresh here in the bowl area, ban all vehicular traffic, close all local industry, and forbid the burning of carbon based fuel to heat our homes. Now you will have that fresh air, until the next inversion comes along that is.
metalman.

Dude I would be careful. You just let the cat out of the bag on! Canfor CEO is going to send his goons after you now and fit you with a set of concrete boots.

Don't need the concrete, I got gumbo clay stuck to maboots, but thanks for the warning.
metalman.

industry does know full well what they are contributing. They also know that they are the primary contributors to air shed.

They weasel out of doing anything about it because Gordo is their friend, bought and paid for. The same for most every other major political figure back to the opening of this country.

The people cry "foul air!"
The government says they will do a study.
The ministry of environment does the study and identifies that contaminates are there.
MoE cannot (will not) identify the culprits.
Industry claims they are within spec.
More hew and cry from the populace.
Legislation is tabled and passed after much delay and debate.
Industry requests a postponement of implementation so they can do a study on how to implement at lowest cost.
Weeks drag into months that drag into years, the study project gets dissolved.
People have forgotten the halal balou.

Business as usual, no pollution mitigation action from industry. Round and round we go.

If the MoE did their job, there would be no issue.
If the legislature passed strict enough laws there would be no issue.
If industry were the conscientious citizens that actually cared for its workers and their families there would be no issue.
If employees would refuse to be employed by known or suspected polluters there would be no issue.

We need laws and enforcement. More than that we need a cultural shift where it is less profitable to pollute and to deny that your company is polluting.
We need a massive paradigm shift.

A lot of this goes to the earth being overpopulated. There is not enough wild and green space for mother earth to cleanup after us. There is too much pressure on all resources to provide food, water and breathable air and then have a place for our waste. This infinite expansion in a finite space has exceeded its time. IMO six billion bodies on this planet is at least three times the sustainable population. In all likelihood we will run out of clean air and clean water before we run out of oil. Last week was a report that there are now two billion starving people on the earth. With all the technology available, why?

Why can we not live without raping the planet?
Why can't we feed every one.
What is the point of all the greed when it is at the cost of our very island in the universe. That is what earth is, an island. The only one we can inhabit at this time because there are no other known planets that can sustain our life.

Let 'r rip!