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2010 Cops Don't Like Free Speech

By Ben Meisner

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 03:45 AM

Chris A Shaw is the Professor in the Dept of Ophthalmology at the University of British Columbia.

Now the Prof. has been making his sentiments known as to how he feels about the upcoming 2010 Olympics. He says we are facing a huge hangover, it will cost us multi millions when it is over and we are spending $6 Billion for a 17 day party. He is entitled to make his views known. He is, in addition, entitled to make those views known on the public stage.

Now he should be able to do that, but that is not what is happening. Professor Shaw says his girlfriend is being followed around UBC campus , police have been talking to her and asking whether Shaw is a threat to security.

His ex-wife has been interviewed; his neighbours are being queried about whether he might be a threat to security.

He argues that a new by law which prohibits the use of sticks on signs because they could be used as weapons, no voice activated amplication  devices, no street theatre  or it appears anything that might interfere with those who want to enjoy the Olympics. He can of course protest the games in a “free speech zone” those of course are out of the way where anyone attending won’t be bothered by a man who thinks we have wasted  a lot of money on a party for a privileged few.

This kind of conduct should scare the average resident of BC, because it smacks of controlling the masses. If you don’t like the Olympics, sit down shut up and say nothing is the message that is being sent. By speaking your mind, you may be  contributing to the rising security costs.

Free speech is just that, controlling free speech is also just that, harassing people who don’t agree with your ideas is the latter.

I'm Meisner and that's one man's opinion.


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Thats a disgrace, but the fact is the province pays for all the legal costs for Vanoc... the province has whole teams of lawyers on retainer for Vanoc to harrass people that have a 6th degree of seperation from the olympics.

Vanoc has made it illigal to even use the word 2010 in any commercial or non profit event dealing with tourism or sports. 2010 is a date and not a trademarkable term like the Olympics would be, but the province gives VANOC trademarkable rights over even the general use term of the date. Canadians and British Columbians have no rights when Vanoc decides on an issue... seems to be what our politicians have decided.

We should protect our borders and we should be doing extensive arial radiation monitoring during the olympics... but inside our borders we should not be trampling on the rights and norms of Canadian society for the sake of the games. If something happens then that is the price of freedom and we deal with it... if nothing happens and no one notices the security, then that is a success for a free society.

Police state tactics hurt our society, our future norms as a society, our image abroad, as well as the good will towards the games.

I for one would be proud to show the world Chris Shaw speaking his opinion to the world during the Olympics even if I didn't agree with a word he had to say. Let the world know we speak our voice in a free society, rather then in 'free speach zones' set up for disenters. Of course we live in a corpocracy so the 'free speach zones' will be the order of the day.
We are seeing more and more of this kind of intimidation by the Olympic cops as the Olympics get closer to happening.
Disturbing to say the least.
Screw the olympics!!.. Opps that just cost $150 bucks in security admin costs for vanoc.
Aww Crap screw them twice,there I just doubled it. good thing I did'nt stutter.
Might be a little hard to enforce a "free speech zone" away from the public's attention AFTER the Games are over, and the 'costs' and 'benefits' are finally able to be related to one another. And we see what we're going to have to 'pay' for.

I believe most of us are already aware that the former are going to likely far exceed the latter by quite a considerable margin, even factoring in future benefits derived from having the Canada Line and improvements to the highway to Whistler.

We'll be paying for these Games at least three times over.

We've already paid for them once, through the rise in prices which their preparation has engendered.

Now we'll pay for them again through actually repaying the funds borrowed, and once again though the interest on that borrowing over the next couple of decades, both through increased taxation. Is it worth it? For 17 days of a 'circus' that really proves what?

Surely in this time when we have far more pressing problems facing an increasing number of our citizens we could've put our efforts to greater long-term advantage.
Free Speech Zone
weren't these the same thing China did for the summer Olympics ?

Free speech zones .... also called protest pens .....

Once again, we are learning negative processes from the USA ....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone

A USA view, where it all started from and we are acting in a copycat fashion.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/08/04/hilden.freespeech/index.html
All british columbians should not make a sound as they are bent over taking it up the ying yang. The olympics, carbon tax and hst have all been crambed down our throats and we are just sitting around being silent. While you are at it line up like good little sheep and enter into the new world order without your rights and remember.....shhhhhhhhh.
I agree.....shhhhhhhhhhhh
I hate public protests, i just do. HOWEVER, any attempt to curtail peaceful protest is wrong in my view. People ought to have a right to say what they want, even if public so long as they dont obstruct or otherwise interfere with other people. I dont include annoyance as interference either.
Just watched the report on these Olympic cops harrassing people the news.
It is happening more and more often the closer we get to the great Olympic embarrassment!
This is going to get worse very quickly.
And it isn't all just about security...a lot of it is politically motivated by the present provincial government.
It is designed to shut-up the naysayers to maintain an image.
We should all be very concerned about our rights an freedoms being violated.
Olympic Cops...soon to visit you!
So, who decided on hosting the Olympics? Who voted for a carbon tax? Who is supporting the HST? There is always more at stake than first thought. There are long term consequences for the decisions we make. It's time we held everyone accountable for their decisions. And don't let them forget it.

Maybe we can't protest the way we want. Maybe we aren't as effective in swaying decisions already made. But, I will make my voice heard the next time I have an opportunity to have my say. And I will not keep quiet.
I heard the interview with Prof. Shaw and I hope you have him back on the show again Ben.
My wish would be to have Prof. Shaw come to PG for a rally, that Northern British Columbia does not support the Olympics and to shame the Olympic cops for trying to silence the truth.
Sadly, this would make Shaw's life even more hellish. Never mind, bad idea.
Amen to that Chester!
Actually,I think we should ALL make a lot of noise!
As much as possible, and don't be polite about it!
Just be legal.
Protest everything about the Olympics!
The fact that the government,Vanoc,and the IOC, don't want us to do it is all the more reason to do it anyway!
No way in hell they should get away with this blatant violation of our rights and freedoms!
And what is it all for?...a two week bash for the wealthy, and nothing but harrassment for the little guy who paid for them?
Let's drive these Olympic cops nuts, running around trying to track every one down to question them!
These "games" and the corporate money men who control them, are becoming more disgusting the closer we get to them happening!
And I suspect that will only get worse!
hey! Maybe we could sell the games to Chicago! I hear they are in the market now...
I am a bit surprised to read this news on opinion250.com about "freedom of speech" when Elaine Macdonald elaine@opinion250.com wrote on Thu, 28 May 2009 wrote that:

"I wanted to advise that I have pulled your comments regarding UNBC. There are several allegations being made, which, at this time, I cannot substantiate. I would encourage you to send me this information off line so we can take a deeper look and publish a full story of the issues."

I wrote my opinion on opinion250. But I am sending the information about another new case of mismanagment in UNBC which has been published extensively in PG citizen and so far opinion250.com has not reported it. And I don't know why. Here is the link:

http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20091008999909143/sports/sports/mcnamara-to-appeal-firing.html

I am encouraged to send this information not off line so opinion250 "can take a deeper look and publish a full story of the issues." as soon as possible.

Not reporting the cases of mismanagment
in UNBC, does not help UNBC (and PG community) at all, and I should further add that Dr Iwama has started on the wrong footing in UNBC. His honeymoon in PG was over before it even started.

Sayonara,