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City Launches myPG Campaign to Create Long Term Plan for City

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Monday, October 26, 2009 05:00 PM

Prince George, B.C.- The City of Prince George has launched what may be its most ambitious public consultation project in its history.   Called “myPG”, the project is aimed at finding out from a grassroots level, just what the long term vision for the City should be. 
Rather than holding a series of public forums, “myPG” will offer a website (www.myPG.ca ) where people can either fill out an online form, or download it , fill it out and return it to City Hall. The forms are also available at City Hall. Members of the “myPG” team will also   go o places where people gather in an effort to collect as much information and ideas as possible.
This grassroots effort is what is called an “Integrated Community Sustainability Plan” a plan that is necessary if the City hopes to continue receiving money from the gas taxes collected. This year, the amount of money from the gas tax fund is $2.9 million dollars, and Mayor Dan Rogers says having such a plan in place is quickly becoming a prerequisite for qualifying for funding from a variety of sources.  “Increasingly we are being asked to develop a long term plan, for 25 – 50 years down the road and what needs to be done to get us there.”
As an example of how the plan works, team leader Mark Fercho says one community decided it wanted to reduce it’s dependency on fossil fuels, so that started the community on the road to installation of infrastructure for geo thermal heating.
When complete, the Prince George plan will drive the decisions City Council will make in the future, the City’s operating budget, the capital budget, help set Corporate and staff goals and be the backbone of future policies ( like the official community plan) and bylaws.
It is hoped people will take the opportunity to access the workbook designed for  what “myPG” calls “kitchen table talks” that interested citizens can organize to fit their own personal schedules.
The vision could be anything says Mayor Dan Rogers, from someone who thinks the city needs more arenas to a person who wants more commercial zoning, or perhaps those who would like to see curb side recycling, whatever the idea, the City wants to hear it. “We need to keep one eye on the future, and plan for 30  to 50 years,
Several communities including Williams Lake, Calgary, Kamloops and Whistler, have either already completed their specific plans or are well on the way to doing so.
The project carries a price tag of $444 thousand dollars, of which, $300 thousand came from gas tax revenues, a further $120 thousand in the form of a grant from a specific gas tax fund, and $100 thousand that had been set aside for the Official Community Plan review which will be conducted in conjunction with the “myPG” project.
The data gathered between now and December 16th will be analyzed and brought back to the community shortly thereafter. Then in the Spring of 2010,   residents will be asked to select their preferred goals, and by this time next year there will be a plan in place on how those goals can be achieved.
Mayor Rogers says Prince George is known to have a strong core of volunteers and he is banking on that volunteer spirit to get people involved and speak up on the direction the City should take. 
There is nothing that prevents special interest groups from trying to hijack the process to promote their special interests or from non residents filling out the form on line to fit their vision of what P.G. should be,    team leader Mark Fercho says all ideas will be accepted, and the community will make the final decision on what is followed through.  Fercho promises there will be an ongoing transparent record of the efforts to achieve the stated goals.
This project will incorporate work that has already been done, and Fercho promises it will not be a study that sits on the shelf collecting dust “That is not what I’m in the game for, this is all about creating a community in which future generations want to live.” 

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Bwahahahaha, An ongoing thing for the past 40 years.
Going to the local library and read all about our "gritty little mill town" and where it was, what was said, who said what, where we are now and then just do the opposite of all the seers, know-it-alls, politicians and the like when they knew it all back then on how to improve our city. What do we have to lose? Despite the fact I said this is a "gritty little mill town", I wouldn't live anywhere else. I kinda like it here. Been here fer twenty years almost.
Maybe Mayor Rogers should hire some more out-of-town consultants to come up with some more of these brilliant ideas!
$$$444,000 of pure unadulterated BS!!!
If Dano and city council does not know what is going on in the community or what it aspires to perhaps they should step down and save us taxpayers a whole lot of grief.
The only long term plan that this City has is to collect as much tax as possible, get as much gambling, rcmp ticket, and gas tax money, and as many matching fund projects that they can from the Provincial and Federal Government, and then continue to spend all the money like the bunch of bloody fools they are.

The plan that should take place is simple.

10% across the board reduction on City staff and all budgets.

15% reduction in taxes.

All money from gas, gambling, fines, etc; to go to debt reduction.

10% reduction in funding to all organizations that are presently receiving City funds.

No new captial projects for 10 to 15 years. Ie; Police station should be renovated rather than a new one built, and the PAC centre should be put into cold storage for the next 15 years.

If possible the City should sell the property at 4th and Victoria, also the property they just purchased at Norgate, and also the property at 6th and Quebec, and some East of Queensway. If we could sell this ;property we could pick up about $5 Million that could go a long way to reducing taxes, and fixing roads.

IPG should be shut down, and the property on First Avenue closed and if possible sold. The tourist bureau can be moved, and only work for 6 months of the year. This would save us approx $2 Million a year that could go to other more needed projects.


There is no growth forcasted in either population, or commercial, or industrial business's in Prince George in the forceable future, and if anything we will see a major reduction, therefore it is time to get fiscally responsible and stop wasting tax payers dollars.

Its highly unlikey that any of these ideas would be considered because the number one function of the City is job protection, the creation of **cushy** jobs, and the spending of taxpayers money.

Everyone in this town knows, or should know that a large percentage of money collected by the City is wasted. Unless we really start raising hell, they will tax us into the grave. (Actually they have increased the cost of getting buried in this Burg so they are already getting us in the grave.)
Holy smokes! If everything is really as bad as you say, why don't all of you just leave P.G. If you're not interested in trying to make this place better, LEAVE! Don't tell me how much you care about this place and then in the next breath continue to run down everything, LEAVE! Just LEAVE! Frankly we're all getting sick of your attitudes. We don't need them anymore. Nobody is telling you that you have to live here. LEAVE! If you don't like something, go ahead and speak out. But when you don't like ANYTHING and your name REPEATEDLY appears here in criticism, it's time for you to LEAVE!
Iglooman. Go back to your Igloo. You should know that a lot of people on this site have been residents of the City for years. Have paid taxes for years, and we expect that the City would have some consideration for how our money is spent.

To suggest that we should leave, and let the City carry on is somewhat humerous. The thing that requires changing is the City personel, and its spend, spend, spend, mentality.

So Iglooman I suggest to you that if you and all your buddies support the kind on BS that has been coming out of City Hall for the past 10 years or so, then you are part of the problem, and maybe you should LEAVE.

***A silent majority and Government by the people is incompatible*** Tom Hayden.

***Silence gives consent*** Cannon Law

***Everyone wants to live at the expense of the State. They forget that the State wants to live at the expense of everyone*** Fredrick Bastiat
Hey Pal, a lot of your suggestions should be considered. Although a little critical and negative, pretty much on the mark as far as I am concerned. And I have been here for 57+ years. So, I'm pretty used to things.

I'm with you palopu,just same old crap year after year!
I'm with Igloo, a pretty big gathering of bitter and cranky people here. Always a lot of complaining, never any action.
"never any action" ....

Can you explain that a bit better?
"It is hoped people will take the opportunity to access the workbook designed for what “myPG” calls “kitchen table talks” that interested citizens can organize to fit their own personal schedules."

Hey StreetWise2 ... How about you and I finding a couple of additional people and organizing the first annual Opinion 250 "klitchen table talk"?

Would that be enough action for you?
Of course, we would have to find a "klitchen" somewhere ... :-)
Palopu wrote...

"The only long term plan that this City has is to collect as much tax as possible, get as much gambling, rcmp ticket, and gas tax money, and as many matching fund projects that they can from the Provincial and Federal Government, and then continue to spend all the money like the bunch of bloody fools they are."

You have just described the lower mainland.
We've made an industry out of talking about the downtown. Many consulting companies do quite well with it.
I think there are many problems and the first on my list is the constant increasing in taxes and the waste all over the city with this money. I have seen lines painted on roads and less than a month later ripped up. I have driven by the ball park on north Nechako after midnight and seen the gates locked, no cars in the parking lot and ALL the huge lights on. The fact that we have already spent our snow removal budget speaks for itself. There are other examples but it makes no difference because the end result is...It is easy to spend money if it is not yours. All these people WHO WORK FOR US AND WE PAY have to have a pet project to get their names in lights. It is the politician way. Unfortunately they are rarely in the best interest of the TAX PAYER. I love Prince George but you need to be realistic and call a spade a spade none the less. The people at city hall act like they did not know the rest of the world was in a recession. All these suggestions that WE the people make will not be listened to in the end and the proof is they were not listened to after the last election. The ones who we voted in promised they were listening until they sat in their nice new chair. This is all a way to say later "We gave you the chance to speak". There are real problems on all levels of government and if you continue to close your eyes and mind to it then you are part of the problem. Yes it can be construed as whining, complaining..Etc etc but in the end "Someone spoke!" Pretending that everything is rosy will put you in the deer caught in headlights group. Regional district and the city raised our taxes last year to the tune of 15% and again the year before. I predict it will be raised yet again this spring. There is a problem and no one will make me believe otherwise.
Palopu I think what you wrote was a little bit on the conservative side... but it would make a good start IMO.
Then there is the other view of which group igloo and street belong to. They could be the ones collecting pay checks for trying to work out the problems that have been going on for decades and they are getting frustrated with the people who are not helping the situation.

In other words, they would like to be left alone rather than engaging with the people they were hired to serve. It is because of that complaint of theirs (yes, they are complainers too!!!!! which they often forget) that they had to hire (read this postion title carefully now!!) an "engagement manager" to manage that public engagement process.

It's a bitch being a public servant, isn't it?

Orwell's 1984 anyone?
They could save a lot of time, energy, and paper. All they city council needs do is read opinion250.

There is so much pissing and moaning on here with a few favored topics, they could just pick any one and address it. But then they would not be able to spend taxpayer monies on a study, and hire a consulting firm, and of course a polling firm, then have some out touch with reality planner not from here suggest some excessive grand plan to piss away more taxpayer monies on something that might work in the lower mainland but does not have a snowballs chance in the oven to succeed!

Sorry for the run on rant.

Hey city hall:
Fix roads

Cut city staff

Over/under pass on Central at 5th, 10th, and 15th

Fix roads

move ALL social service organizations out of the downtown. If the residentially challenged want a free meal, they will have to travel a long way from their other vices

Fix potholes

NO NEW POLICE SHACK. IT IS A FEDERAL RESPONSIBILITY. If the RCMP want the city to do something, renovate current building.

fix roads

Prohibit more expansion on the west side and give the Hart something. Just because the lawyers, doctors, and politicians all live on that side does not mean that they should get all the goodies. The rest of the citizens pay your fees and wages

Fix potholes

bulldoze old abandoned buildings

Fix the roads

Terminate with extreme prejudice 1/4 of city staff managers and warn the rest that there will be more until the budget requests diminish. Do more with less, lean and mean.

Fix potholes

No more green spaces. They are a costly nothing. We have enough.

Fix roads

No more rainbow support. I don't wear my hetero on my sleeve and I don't support the blatant display of alternative lifestyles. If they want to bump innies or outies, fine, I don't need to see it.

Fix potholes
"They could save a lot of time, energy, and paper. All they city council needs do is read opinion250"

Okay, so that would cover off the opinions of what, 30-50 regular posters who comment on all things PG? What about the other 70,000 people?

As an aside, I'm a little confused as to how this is different from the various OCP discussions/feedback that have/has happened in the past. Also, given that we seem to ignore the OCP document whenever making key decisions, why should people beleive that their input under this initiative would be taken any more seriously?
Good comment made by Palapu regarding disbanding IPG.

The present boss of IPG is on a self gratified power trip. Maybe they should replace him with the new Businessman of the Year!
Surveys are conducted by representative population samples, not by surveying the entire population. By getting the opinions of a sample of say .1% in a population of 70,000, is 70. So the 30-50 posters on this site would be a valid sample.

Of the 70k residents, less than 1% will express an opinion.

Not only that, but opinion250 has a consistent and constant stream of opinions and it would do council well to heed the most vocal cadre of the population.

Now I have explained the rationale of my suggestion. I don't recall seeing any suggestion from you, just nay saying. It is not helpful to negate the opinion of someone else, it is more constructive to express an alternative opinion that can can be compared.