Out with the gun registry, in with the ATV registry.

Car registry and Playstation registry may be next!!!!

So we have lagged behind in ORV sport have we? Thank god they are going to charge us some money to register my ATV's! I can hardly wait for the enhancement!
Here is a question: Is there ANY evidence that registration increases ATV safety? I can see where it would allow people annoyed with ATV'ers (whether they are breaking rules or not) to rat them out. Then the various non-RCMP enforcement agencies can fine people without due process, evidence, all that stuff.

Oh here we go, there was a boating licence implemented, So I refused to buy a boat, why not a 4 wheeling licence? Oh ya we all have lawn mowers, I think anything with a motor should be licenced, you know whipper snippers,leaf blowers etc... Someone might be using them unsafely or causing environmental damages. How much to register $50.00 times a 10's of thousands, why not? we all have disposable incomes, Just ask the Premiere he sure has or any other politician. Oh lets all insure our 4 wheelers so we can cross a road ($$$)there is a great idea. I know that will make it a lot safer.
IT'S TAXES, TAXES, TAXES PEOPLE!
We are far from being done, we have to pay for the olympics some how don't we?
BC stands for Bring Cash

I can see it already the "Grasslands Conservation Council' will be all over the backwoods in their hybrid vehicles taking town the plate number of any quad that is running/idling. I guess the Pleasure Craft operating licence was such a big hit someone thought it should be expanded to include anything fun

Maybe after reading this having the ability to cross roads is a great thing, now everyone can go ripping down the street in town to get to the trails...Yippee, don't have to load up the ATV anymore

The ATV liscense program really isnt a bad thing. 1st and foremost it helps cut down on ATV theft.

There has been a pretty big outcry from Alberta because the feeling is most ATV's stolen from there end up in BC because we dont have to register them. Most look alike so there is no way to identify once they cross the border.

We will also be able to legally cross public roads, that is a good benefit.

The word I get from the local clubs is our cost to insure our ATV's will drop when they are registered.

I am very worried that they are going to make me have a licence to get up in the morning.

Stmpin Tom says-The word I get from the local clubs is our cost to insure our ATV's will drop when they are registered.

How do you figure that? It costs me nothing now. Any cost is an increase.I have a newer sled and 4 wheeler for sale, any takers? 7G each, Plus taxes of course

sportsman

I guess by that you mean you dont insure your atv's.

I do and many others do, I run 2 machines, an 08 and 06, the cost of losing them to theft is huge, but the insurance costs are way to high, almost 600 a year per machine. If you use ICBC the insurance is closer to a grand a year.

I understand that once the program is fully in effect we can expect our insurance to be cut in half.

ps. I understand you have to have insurance on your machine if you travel on any BC Forest road, you must have liability at the very least, if not there is a fine as well a potential charges for any damage to the roads.

There you go... More taxes. Don't forget that to get the cheaper insurance you have to belong to a club. Another cost, I have liability insurance, I pay for it every year on my house insurance, that's what it's for.
We are being legislated to death and here we go again with more. It's just frusterating. Sell your 4 wheelers and sleds, take the money to Mexico or somewhere and have fun with it I say, spend your money where our governments can't touch it.
Just a thought.

just another money grab under the guise of "safety". Why do they not make the elderly or for that matter anyone with a motohome have a different driver's license as well as there are some extremely bad drivers driving 25-45 foot motorhomes that cause more accidents than they are in. Some of those motorhomes are like driving tractor-trailer units and those truckers need special licenses and medicals etc.

Another money grab to pay for the Olympics

Alberta has had the licensing sytem for O.R.V. for years.
metalman.

I also heard on the CBC about rider certifications coming. Oh yay! Maybe i will have to take a course soon to be able to continue ridig my ATV. Some book learned 28 year old instructor (i picked 28 because thats about how long i have been riding ATV's). All in the interest of 'safety'. Heres a hint: You CANT save people from themselves.

Sportsman...I have 2 quads and yes, me too, this will mean an increase. I do not insure my quads. The costs are too high. I've had my quads for several years now and the costs to insure them would add up to the price of a new quad by now. They are always locked up in my backyard shed when I'm not using them and have never had a problem with theft.
I wonder if Zoom is correct? "Maybe after reading this having the ability to cross roads is a great thing, now everyone can go ripping down the street in town to get to the trails...Yippee, don't have to load up the ATV anymore". Now that would be very cool. I live very close to some trails and have to load my quads just to drive them a few kms to ride.

One can only use legislation and registration as a tool to deal with morons. It doesn't eradicate them, unfortunately.

More government BS and red tape.
Who is the guy sitting behind a government desk coming up with these stupid regulations???

More freedom lost!
More money out of your pocket!

What's next???

mythoughts- the insurance is for fire and theft and CROSSING roads only, 4 wheelers and sleds are not going to be allowed on streets, unless Prince George passes a bylaw allowing that. If you have house insurance and most people do, you already are covered by your liability insurance on that policy. That is what you have already paid for. This is totally seperate, it is a licence plate that you have to have installed on your machine and makes it easy to identify who's it is. I have no problem with that. But the cost of insurance is and has nothing to do with driving on highways or streets, this will just allow you, if you have a plate and insurance to cross a road? Big deal. What is that worth $300.00- $500.00 to you? To me absolutley not. I live out of town. The registration for all people who have already purchased machines should have the registration and plate for free, newly purchased ones well that becomes part of the cost of having some fun in this over regulated, over taxed Province, I am willing to bet that when this happens and I am sure it will, sales of new machines will drop because they are expensive enough already with out an extra $300.00-$500.00 tacked on top. Don't forget you'll pay HST on all of that too. I for one will probably not purchase a new machine.

Sportsman: I would look deeper into your policy about your ATV liability. I was told that house liability insurance does not cover your use of your ATV on FSR's.

As for registration its just another money grab.

Just more BS legislation and red tape. Soon you won't be able to go camping without a permit. Welcome to 1984.

I already have people zipping up and down the street on quads. I wouldn't mind if they were heading to the near by trails but they don't. As for the registration and insurance - yes my Albertian relatives find it a benefit. They thought it was a shame we did not get the same benefits here in BC.
Pearonally, not interested in insuring as they aren't worth much. Doubt it will make driving ATV's less dangerous.

I hate taxes. Hunting on my ATV with a helmet huh? Don't think so. They're gonna need lots of choppers to enforce that one. I won't be one of those buying a helmet for hunting unless it has night vision attached.

I think the city should hire a ATV ambassidor at about $100,000 a year. They could encourage people to phone in about ATVs being on city roads. We could then install a thumb tack on a map for every call. Oh yes, we will have to have someone to enforce these violations.

I'm too old to work so that would be a good job for me. Absolutely nothing to do except wait for pay-day.

Oldun

you forgot, they have to go around and put up stickers for the hot spots, I wonder how them stickers do on trees?

I have always insured my dirt bike as an enduro. This isn't about registration of peoples toys so they can 'find them' when lost.

This is a program to get people out of the public forests, and this is simply another step in that process... collecting some taxes along the way.

Next thing you know you need a permit to go for a s.h.it.

This will ensure that the government gets their 12% HST everytime anyone sells a quad or a sled to their buddy cause when buddy goes into register it he'll have to pay the tax. It'll also make sure no one sneaks a quad or a sled in from Alberta without paying tax on it.

So what will happen to all of us that have traded a garden shed and some cash to the neighbour for a sled............how are you going to register that.......are they going to charge 12% when you go in to register it?

Taxes, taxes, taxes. Has no one told you about the "Gift Letter". but im sure that will go to shit when the Hst comes into affect.

screw taxes, pay cash when you can.

cash is king. remember that

I'm sure people were saying the same sorts of things way back when they forced people to register their cars. In a year or two, this will be forgotten, guaranteed.

No rules and helmets and fees and licenses for old people on their electric scooters? Will the new law apply to them if they go off road?

I am an atv'er and have been in the atv clubs. What most of you do not realize is that this is not just the desires of the anti-atv groups. The avt clubs themselves are pushing this.
Why?
1) Money, part of this scam is mandatory memberships to get registered and insured. they are in partnership with insurance companies and are using the Ontario atv/snowmobile clubs as an example. They want to have total control of where you ride and how much you pay to do so. The money they get will fund their clubs and build trails for you to legally ride. The Provincial government will also get their sales tax off of every transaction.
2)Safety is a BS arguement. Idiots will be idiots. It is already illegal to ride a FSR without helmet, drivers license, and liability insurance. I've met this requirement for several years and have yet to meet anyone who had encountered enforcement. It is illegal to drink and ride or break any MVA regulation now, this has no bearing on safety, otherwise Ontario would be showing great stats on it, they don't.
3)Theft: Has snowmobile registration reduced theft? No. Has the incredibly complex car registration stopped theft? No. Theives will steal anything they can if they can get a nickel for it, or joyride it. A plate will only be used to tattle on a law abiding rider, the others don't care and won't have a plate. Snowmobiles already have mandatory 'plates/decals' and it makes zero difference. Ever ran out of your house in winter at 2am and take down the number of that sled roaring by at 120km? Didn't think so, and it wouldn't have one anyways if you did cause he didn't care.
4) This will be maintained by ICBC. Give you new hope?

I enjoy all sorts of extreme sports, and the only legitimate actions I think could be done are: Mandatory helmets. Yes you can hunt with them on, and everything else. No helmets is a weak arguement, shit happens, your brain damaged and the tax payers are babysitting you. They work, wear them.
To a lesser extent: Registration, only so the honest folks can check on history and buy honest atvs. This will of course lead to the old tax on every sale, so I will not support it.

I can't hear anything with a helmet on! I guess I could use one of those Hells Angels helmet-style-beanies. They are legal! Might get a tad cold in November though.

If those of you seriously do not like this piece of legislation, then don't cooperate with it. Either take a real stand or be sheeple. The choice is yours.

Definitely. When the cop is writing you that ticket, tell him or her that you're 'taking a stand' and that you don't like the legislation. That will go over really well.

You took the words right out of my mouth dcfluid... All except the helmet part...

I have paid enough taxes to lay in the hospital for the next 40 years brain dead and have a pretty nurse feed me.

Don't wear a helmet and don't plan to. But I don't go very fast either. If I was riding a motocross bike I would but on my quad and the way I ride... Ain't gonna happen. As far as registration and licensing not keen on it. Just another money grab. I think the ATV clubs knuckled under to the pressure groups who would like to tie up every square inch in the backcountry to all motorized traffic including boats on lakes as well.

Not to worried though. They don't have enough man power to enforce it anyhow.

"Definitely. When the cop is writing you that ticket, tell him or her that you're 'taking a stand' and that you don't like the legislation. That will go over really well."

Why would you tell the cop anything? First of all there would have to be enforcement. Not likely to happen, look at cyclists.

Second, you wouldn't necessarily be standing alone based on the feedback here.

Third, they would have to force you to pay the ticket.

If you believe in something have a backbone.

I heard an example of this on a program some time ago. Someone put their garbage bin out on the wrong day and was fined. Of course, the majority complained about the unfairness of it all. One neighbourhood decided to all put their cans out on the wrong day, and then another, and then another...soon that bylaw was repealed.
All it takes is a little effort.

Cops gonna be hiding in bushes next? Citizens arrest of anyone dis-obeying the rules? Better not be a bunch of off roaders around when you do make yer citizens arrest. Better take some (big) pals with you if you are gonna be a good citizen. Too many rules, too many laws and too many taxes. Don't like levys either.