HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

I remember the city was already hurting in the snow removal budget for 09.

This should finish it off!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHA!!!!

In this day and age with the economy the way it is I don’t blame people for burning wood. My stove puts a lot less emissions in the air than all you people that drive out to golf coarse 20 or 30 times in the summer. If you want fresh air move out to the country.
I have lived here for 50 years and I will always burn wood. If city council wants to ban it, well maybe we should change them.

Council bans woodstoves, council will not be able to attend the next meeting. There would be a riot.

doneright....

was that a copy and paste job....

that looked real familiar!

yes it was.I posted it 2 weeks ago when the city hired air sniffers with our tax dollers.

Still like to know how the builders get away with that eight foot wall around the old Kal Tire building on 22nd.

So those of you with your wood smoke drifting over my property should nt mind when my dog relieves himself on your front lawn

Had a Neighbor complain about the smoke, says it bothers her sons azma, as she stood there with a smoke in her hand.

I don't burn wood but I love the smell of it. I don't have a problem with it. My neighbour has been burning wood to heat their home for 40 years. They were in that home before the rest of us moved to the neighbourhood. My response to the neighbours that don't like it...MOVE! They were here before you. The wood costs them nothing and it saves them a truckload of money. They don't use anything else to heat their home so they have no gas bill.

Oh & yeah, I used my remote start to warm my full size SUV this morning before heading into work at 6:00am. Why? Because I can.

there is a very GOOD reason for that wall...

Oh & yeah, I used my remote start to warm my full size SUV this morning before heading into work at 6:00am. Why? Because I can

HAHAHAHAHAH....YES........I love it. I did the same with my truck. I also threw a couple of logs on the fire before I left to go to work at the pulpmill! An NO I am not kidding or being sarcastic!

With the recent news about city council wanting to raise the utilities maybe this should ease the sting (okay so maybe NOT).

Vernon's utilities are almost twice as much as they pay almost $600.00 per year for their utilities.

The lucky thing for them is that they don't get the same amount of snow and so they don't need a the snow budget that we have.

Just thought I'd share that with ya.

Safe driving to all.

Red neck fools. Get a life

Looks like a great day to get a bottle of Jack Daniels and blow doughnuts in a parking lot with my dog in the box of my truck... Care to join me chrisliving downtown

Here is a topic that should get some peoples blood a boiling. Our unique carbon tax is going to raise this summer right after the HST is implemented. Now if all those hacked emails and scientists journals are correct then IMO it should be abolished. Campbell based all of this on those figures. If Al Gore gets sued by the head of the weather network and his 30,000 scientists and wins, what does that do to this beautiful carbon tax? Ponder away and enjoy this wonderful white Friday!

Can anyone shed some light on the old Kal building on 22nd? I drove by for the first time yesterday and WOW - it looks like Fort Knox. The ouside gate was open revealing a second gate inside. What the heck are we going to house there?

Guys, it is a comfort to know that there still are Rednecks out there. If those fresh air fairies come by and want to look at your woodstove, you have the right to tell them to @#$! off, and comeback with a warrant. Even if it is a legal clean burning stove.


Lets see, There is two of us, and we live in a 2000 sf rancher with full basement, wood stove, and the one ton diesel has a remote start. I am from Prince George, I am a Northern Red Neck, and I am proud of it.

I wonder if anyone has done a carbon footprint study between burning a efficient wood stove or a gas fired furnace. Why don't we rednecks put together some money and hire a few UNBC profs, and let them come up with the answer.

Many of these posts are typical of Prince George. People here generally don't care about anyone but themselves.

The old Kal tire building, was allowed to bypass the city design panel. The project is suppose to be hush hush.

It will likely be the new Drug and Gang office for the RCMP.

The old Kal Tire building is now the new drug bust unit!

I think that some of the wood smoke pollution we have comes from industrial burning of logging debris, even though it does not ever seem to be mentioned as a part of the problem.

Why do we still have 5 Kms. of 50 Km speed limit on Husky Hill. They aren't going to be working there all winter. Most people are doing 90k anyway as the road is still the same as to when they started. Police are having a hay day getting there quotas of tickets in. Is this what the city plans for extra tax money.
This is so stupid, as people are getting frustated with the odd person that does 50k. An accident is sure to be

MrPG, its not that we don't care about anyone but themselves.

I would have to say, that most of the rednecks are generational families in the area. They watched their parents struggle to survive and put food on the table in the North. They themselves stayed here and suffered through the touugh times of the eighties and enjoyed some good times later, up and down, and they raised a family, and they managed to throw food on the table.

We make sure our families have enough, then we take care of some of our friends who are suffering too. Then we look at our neighbours and make sure that their doing OK. We help out the elderlies in the neighbourhood, like snowblowing the driveway, or mowing there lawn. We donate our time to non profit organizations, we support the performing arts. we try to make this northern life as hospitable as possible.

But, when we get told how to live our lives from outsiders, we dig in our heels.
The outsiders come up here and want to implement big city ideas, to a bunch of "Rednecks", and when there ideas are being shot down, the just want to call us names, "REDNECKS". Well, I don't mind working up a sweat in the sun, and the back of my neck gets burned from working for a living, and proud of everything I have, and helping out those who are struggling to make ends meet. But don't come and tell me, that we are backwards and need to do all these things, so that the limp wrist down south can keep on consuming.

I was in Williams Lake and Quesnel yesterday.

Gas in the Puddle: $103.9

Gas in Quesnel: $0.999

Then when I came home, I stopped at EVERY red light from the the two in the BCR Industrial site, along the bypass, and all the way up the Hart to the intersection of the Hart and Austin Rd.

Note to the Media: ENOUGH TIGER WOODS ALREADY!!!!!!!!!

Chris: truckwith remore start, wood stove, job at the mill = A LIFE! Jeez, what would you call a life? Community work, environmentalism, and eventually a low carbon funeral? You poor brainwashed person you!
Hey! Guys! Where are all the pellets we make here going? That's right; Europe. Why is it that the Germans can be such great environmentalists while we are neanderthals? Becaus wood burning stoves are carbon neutral. In fact , burning beetle kill ought to get you carbon credits, since decaying wood produces methane! This is a smoke/asthma issue, not a greehouse gas issue. I must say though, that if I had asthma i would not be living in PG, let alone the bowl, whether the neighbours could heat their houses with wood or not. I realize that it may not be so easy to relocate ...Actually i dont. I have always relocated as needed. If you have breathing difficulties you ought to take some responsibility for your quality of life, rather than trying to change a whole town so that you can live where you choose.

He spoke: Right on, baby!

He spoke, that's a nice justification for why you should be allowed to do whatever you want whenever you want, but the reality is that sometimes, your choices do affect others.

It's not about outsiders telling you what to do, it's about common consideration for your neighbours, which is sorely lacking in this city.

From inconsiderate pet owners to inconsiderate wood burners to guys who idle their diesel pickups in the driveway for an hour at 5:00 a.m., this town is full of inconsiderate people.

Some good news today: the World is returning to Prince George in 2011 for the World Baseball Challenge.

http://thepulse.ca/node/2835

Kudos to the dedicated, hard-working, community-minded volunteers behind the organization of this major event.

2009 was a great success, and the organizers won two Chamber of Commerce business excellence awards - Newsmaker of the Year and Tourism Excellence.

Good luck in 2011!!

Heads up to those who want to recycle out there. Quesnel has a complete bin system in place at the info center just past the bridge. They take all glass, all plastics 1-7, cardboard, newspaper, regular paper, metals, tin cans etc etc. All the stuff that you have nowhere to drop off in PG you can drop off there, if you are headed that way. Fortunately for us my job has me down in Quesnel about once a week so it only takes a second to drop it off.
Funny part is I run into other people from PG there doing the same thing... why this isnt available here is beyond me, but I cannot beleive how much our amount garbage has gone down since we started using this.

Good point about recycling, why don't the many drop off stations we have in town not accept the recyclable plastics?

I already recycle newspaper, cardboard and glass at the drop off stations. Instead of implementing a curbside recycling program, which will likely be a high cost, why not improve the drop off stations we already have?

I noticed they have signs up now directing highway trucking traffic to use 5th avenue as the designated trucking route through the city. Wasn't the Nechako bridge built to stop that?

So if 5th is the designated trucking route than what about Victoria? If Victoria is federal and its all municipal traffic, and 5th is municipal and its all federal highway traffic who comes out the better?

So if 5th is the designated trucking route now, then why wouldn't we make it officially part of the Yellowhead, or better yet reroute the Yellowhead across the Nechako to hook up with Central Street. If we did that then it would be 100% federal responsibility to upgrade the real highway that goes through PG... and Central could get some underpasses paid for by the federal government removing some of the lights?

Something to think about anyways.....

Hey, I have no problems on the recycling.
In fact I save up my plastic bottles and aluminum cans. I squash the aluminum cans so it does not take up too much space. In the summer time, I load up my grandson, have him load up the bag of empties, cash it in and then go grab a ice cream. so he will always remember, waste not.

The paper and thin cardboard, I actually burn it. I believe we live in a pulpmill town, thus, sure hate to see all those guys run out of work. So I burn it. Bigger corragated boxes and with clay faces, I recycle. The way I see it is, all of the paper that we collect for recycling gets trucked out..... meaning we probably are leaving a bigger carbon footprint. It works in the big city.

Do you know what we need. Like Williams Lake, we need a system where all construction wood waste get mulched and burned to make electricity.

Composting.... yes, that is next on my agenda.

Not bad for a selfish Northern Redneck...eh.

Ever notice, all the hype against wood stove, shows off a old ineffecient wood stove that they have not made in thirty years.

A lot of technology has gone into the modern wood stove.

YOu can have my woodstove.... when you pry it from my cold dead hands. Start paying my gas bill or give me a economical alternative, and I'll gladly give up my stove.

Until then, my Husqvarna 365 will roar.

Don't like rednecks them move back south to the land of unreality, bye, don't let the door hit your butt on the way out. damm, wore out another remote start.

Whats that, I can hear you over my Stihl. You want what, You want me to what, hunh stop burning wood.......... Ah shut up and pack the wood.

A new high efficiency wood stove was next on my wish list(did the High Eff furnace first), but I am now delaying that purchase depending on the outcome of this residential air quality study.

My pooch will be very upset if she cannot sleep on her pillow next to that stove, so do not ban the wood stove, for my dog's sake.

'He spoke'...you are priceless! 'fresh air fairies...hahahahaha. Thanks for the chuckles. I totally agree with you in all your comments. MrPG, the best thing about Rednecks...we DO care about others. We just don't like the fresh air fairies telling us we can't enjoy everything we've worked hard for all our lives...our trucks, quads, sleds, etc. I start work at 6:00am so I have no choice. I have to warm my truck up in the early morning hours. My neighbours don't complain. They're just happy I'm still working cause there's lots that aren't. You're living in the wrong neighbourhood.

Its interesting to see the comments of the psuedo **Rednecks** I guess some people will do anything to get some recognition.,

A lot of us have lived in this town all our lives and at best are just people. **Redneck** is a name imported from the USA and we get it from watching too much televison.

Anyone can put a hat on backwards, drive a diesel pick up with a dog in the back, a beer between the legs, and burn wood, however this does not make you a **redneck** in the true sense of the word.

Most of us gave up this kind of a lifestle when we reached age 25. **some obviously didnt**

I burn wood when I want to, and I keep it around as an alternative to electricity and gas. If it wasnt for wood most people who were raised in this Country would have frozen to death years ago.

You can bet your butt that if the electricity goes out at minus 40 everyone with gas or electricity will be looking for someone with wood, so that they can keep from freezing to death. The alternative will be to pitch a tent, and have an open fire. There would be such a run on woodstoves, that they would sell out on the first day.

Dont put all your eggs in one basket. That is not a good plan.

I cut my wood with a **Bull Saw** and split it with an axe. Power saws are to high tech for me. However if I did use a powersaw it would be an old McCullough.

Remember the old McCullough Chainsaw add.

**Your in luck when you have a McCullough Chainsaw**

You have power by the hour in your hand.

With McCullough your the master cause you keep on cutting faster.

**Your in luck when have have a McCullough Chain Sawwwwwwww**

Just a little redneck tune.

Have a nice day.

Thank you everyone for proving my point. At least people are willing to admit they don't give a rats you-know-what about others.

Palopu, yep I grew up in a underinsulated tar paper shack in the backwoods. We use to go throughy 30 cords of firewood. At any time we would have no less than 90 cords of firewood in stock. We had two wood stove, and one oil stove. We did not use much of the oil stove. The wood stoves were not efficient, but kept the rooms warm, it would need to be fed a couple times a night.

So you can imagine what our jobs were during the summer months... cutting, and chopping firewood. Wheel barrow it closer to the house. I learned early in life what it means to work for a living. sure I may be older and wider now, but the values of being a working man is still there. That too me is a "Redneck"

I think Mr.PG needs a name change. Mr.Hongcouver.

And also, dropping $20 into a Sally Ann kettle doesn't mean you are considerate of others. Think about it.

Your right, my annual donation through everything that I do, is likely in the range of about $3000 to $5000. Most of that is sponsoring performing arts and sports. I could just as easily use the money into direct advertising. But why not use some of my advertising budget with improving our community. Its not easy being a "REDNECK", you see they are not afraid to put their money where their mouth is.

People can slag me if it makes them feel better. I couldn't care less.

It is fun reading people's rationalizations for their behaviour though. Keep it up!

Hespeaks; on the topic of rednecks?
Count me in, with my wide assed sunburned neck. All the air fairies and poofters should quit trying to save the world.
Palopu is right, the term redneck is an import from the southern united states of
'merica, y'all. Hey, can anyone tell me where to get some of the 'considerate' wood for my wood stove? You know, the type that does'nt produce drifting smoke, the smoke only goes straight up, and never down to your neighbors yard? Or, being that burning wood is now a 'redneck prctice, would that not be confederate wood? Mrpeegee is wrong, people here generally DO care about others, he-she just got it backwards.
metalman.

Considerate wood? that must be them wood logs you buy wrapped up in paper. Hmm, wonder what kind crap is in that fake wood to keep the sawdust together. Yep, look way up, I mean way up, see that hole in the ozone. yep did that myself.

The world would be a better place if someone carpet bombed everything north of Kamloops.

EatsBushes..... but what about the carbon footprint.

OH, Merry Christmas.... I guess I have to say Happy Holidays, its that PC crap.

IMO, you are right about our provincial governments Carbon Tax. It should be discontinued now that all this new information has come to light. When Campbell and his minions as you put it can prove without a shadow of a doubt that Al Gore is right then he can have his Carbon Tax. The only reason he should not go to jail is that he is merely stupid for believing something and that is not a crime. He probably does not even believe it but it was a good way to gouge the hard working tax payers even more to pay for his extreme spending on the Olympics.

Lets not blame Campbell for the carbon tax or any other such carbon initiative. Read the polls, read Macleans magasine. The general populace are demanding 'something be done' even if they dont really know what the problem is, or whether anything can be done. If the government isnt seen to be doing something about global warming, it likely wont be the government for long. Thats the consequences of a democracy. Certainly one where most of the people dont know much about the issues, or about where their food, oil, wood and gas come from.
We have nobody to blame but ourselves.

It just occured to me, if the first nation peoples are claiming to be the guardians of our environment. .... Don't they burn wood to heat there traditional and current homes?????

I agree that something has to be done. Like TAX INDUSTRY. But to lay it all on the backs of the working people is WRONG!!!!

Entertaining BLOG today...I'm just on my way to the jar store to pick me up a dozen bud,go home,flip off my shitkickers and sit back,chew some snuff and watch a game. Goin to burn up a hunk of cow for supper, fire up my ol potbelly stove and crack a bud. Ya all have a real good nite now,hear.

"Anyone can put a hat on backwards, drive a diesel pick up with a dog in the back, a beer between the legs, and burn wood, however this does not make you a **redneck** in the true sense of the word."

Palopu also don't forget the rifle hanging in the backwindow of the truck. That sure would freak the people out today.

A redneck is just a rube, podunk, hick, loogun or hillbilly with a bad temper.

In case someone from city hall is reading this, I would like to take this opportunity to thank city works for spreading gravel at the intersection next to my house last night Before it snowed. Keep up the good work. Bozos!

I have just read that Stephen Colbert has accepted the offer to become an Ombudsmen during the Olympics. This the the American comedian who called us "Syrup Suckers" and "Ice Holes".


We should let him come on up for the Olympics, then once he is here, arrest him and charge him for promoting hatred and predijuce (sp?)against Canada and its citizens. He can broadcast live from his jail cell. Now THAT would make me laugh.

EatsBushesShoots&Leaves is just jealous

Shouldn't you be beating your wife?

Gasoline in Calgary 2 weeks ago was $0.859/liter.

'He spoke' wrote:

"I would have to say, that most of the rednecks are generational families in the area."

"But, when we get told how to live our lives from outsiders, we dig in our heels."

Hmmmmmm ... sounds like the First Nations philospohy. "We were here first, so buzz off".

Guess no one should have built the dam for ALCAN ..... a large number of those who did were immigrants in the early 1950's from the post war European countries trying to put food on their tables.

The same happened with the coming of the pulp mills. The technical people were priomarily from outside of BC and even outside of Canada and North America. BC was not doing sufficient training in province. In fact, they are just now strating to catch up with the rest of Canada.

Take a slice through the under 40 years of age population of PG today and identify how many come from families whose grandparents were born in PG and surrounding areas. 20%? ... 30% at the most.

What is the definition of an outsider? I came in the early 1970s. When I sit at a table of 20 or so people and I am one of only two or three people who have been here for more than 35 years, I figure I am no longer an outsider.

BTW, my parents struggled to put food on the table in other places when I was growing up. I am sorry to say, it is not an experience unique to people in PG ....

One more thing. I have to laugh at having to survive the 1980s ...... sort of like equating the current economic downturn to the pre WWII depression.

I have a few items for sale, rednecks only!
Easy rider rifle rack; like new
My old hound dawg, Blue, not so new
Assorted pairs of shit kickers, worn
Various shotguns, well used
One of every type of Copenhagen Snuff tin
they are all empty, but could be handy
A few worn out 2wd pick ups, w/rifle racks
One barely worn white sheet, c/w eye holes
Lessee, did I leave anything out?
metalman, rednecked stump jumper.

Does the white sheet come with a pointed hat?

Just want to make sure it's not a Caspar outfit. :-)

My family roots to PG can be traced back to the early 1900's (well actually I suppose it was Fort George at that time), but regardless, I think that gives me some sort of "squatting rights" in the area, at least as far as white folks go. The First Nations people of our area are the ones who REALLY have history around here. The amount of time that European settlers have been in the area is really inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. But hey, if some of you want to act like you've been here for centuries and play the "outsider" card whenever anyone with different views comes along, fly at it. Just understand that most anyone with any level of common sense will ignore you when you go on your rants, LOL.

In any event:

- I still use a shovel to clear my driveway instead of a snowblower, not because I have to, but because it's better exercise
- I use a 4 stroke outboard on my boat because it's better for the environment than an oil burner
- I don't have a car starter in my truck, not because I can't afford it, but because I choose to spend my money on things other than gas. It could also have something to do with the fact that I'm "from" here and I can handle a little cold weather. Some of you "rednecks" are soft.
- I can't stand twangy country music, I prefer stuff with a strong beat and pronounced rhythm
- I've never worked in a mill and nobody in my family has ever worked in a mill. I went to school, received an education and chose to remain in PG because I like it here, not because I "have" to.
- Instead of going to Timmy's, I'll head to Starbucks for a frappachino on the way to the river or lake and when I arrive at my destination with fly rod in hand, I'll outfish the rednecks drowning worms.
- I firmly believe that the PG of 2009 is far superior to the PG that existed when was growing up, increased city debt and all.
- I don't make a huge fuss about potholes. I've travelled enough to know that they are a problem everywhere.
- I enjoy ethnic food more than European inspired cuisine

I'm happy being a non redneck living in PG and I'd like to invite any "outsider" to come here, share your experiences and make our city better. Have a nice day!

NMG - I agree with you almost 100% but I do have to back up the poor maligned two stroke engine... With the new DI technology there are actually more efficient, less poluting outboards than your four stroke - although some would call them "oil burners" ;-)

Have a great weekend all!

Indeed interceptor. I didn't mean to capture the DI 2 strokes with my comment, I meant the "old school" 2 strokes. I'd have no problem having an E-Tec or Optimax on my transom :)