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DBIA Back in Business

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Monday, March 01, 2010 08:53 PM

Prince George, B.C. - The DBIA is back in business. 
 
Despite a pitch that   called on Council to hold off, or put more meat on the bones of the DBIA’s spending plan, Council voted in favour of the fourth and final reading of the bylaw which establishes the special levy.

The levy means that some property owners  having to pay  as much as $10 thousand  extra dollars  on the taxes this year.

The United Steelworkers Local 1-424 Financial Secretary, Brian O’Rourke says the meeting this evening  had an air of the issue being a done deal. “The only thing that would have  even been more ludicrous is if they had passed the fourth reading before we made our presentation” says O’Rourke. 

The Steelworkers say the  new Downtown Business Improvement levy, will cost them $6,000 a year, that’s a lot of money when the membership dues are down because of job losses in the forest sector. The Steelworkers also question the boundaries, saying their building is the furthest from the downtown core and others, which might be more suited to inclusion, like the radio and T.V. station or the Native Friendship Centre across the street, are not included. O’Rourke  wouldn’t rule out   the Union selling the building a moving elsewhere “Anything is possible at this given time, but like I say, hanging some more flower baskets does nothing for the downtown core, or for us where we are located. We are firm believers of the Clean and Safe program, but this shouldn’t be just downtown businesses to be involved in that. I think every business in Prince George would be willing to put some dollars towards  a clean and safe program.”  

The Steelworkers were part of a group which called upon Council to either hold off on establishing a DBIA levy, or, at the very least, request a detailed financial business plan from the DBIA.
 
Myrt Turner of Turner and Associates says the business plan presented for the use of the dollars raised is inadequate. “There is only one item on the plan that is measurable, that is flower baskets, you either hang them, or you don’t,  the results are visual” She questions the goals and accountability of the DBIA.   “When I served on the Gateway Business Association they advised to focus on bricks and mortar and they had it right” She asked Council to request that the DBIA present a detailed budget on how each dollar will be spent before any money is to be delivered to it. “You don’t solve a problem by throwing money at it.”
 
Kelli Steer, General  Manager of the Coast Inn of the North started with stating the Coast Inn is not against a DBIA, but there must be a better way of doing things. She pointed out that the Business plan for the Prince George DBIA would have more than half of the budget spent on administrative  costs  “ In Nanaimo, the administrative costs are held at 15%. In Kelowna, which is a new DBIA, the administration costs are held at 20% and in Chilliwack, it is written in their bylaw that   administrative costs will not exceed 30%.”
 
Roger Cruezot of Gold’s Gym also called upon Council to request a detailed spending plan. He reminded Council that while the DBIA had been in existence for several years, there was no data to indicate that any of their previous programs have had any success and without measureable there is no way to conclude if any of the planned projects would have any impact. He says the Gymn will have to sell an extra 100 memberships just to cover the costs of tax levy.
 
The bylaw includes a provision for Council to have to approve the DBIA’s budget, at least on the business promotion  plans.
While the Councillors expressed an appreciation for the group being factual and succinct in their presentation, there was little offered in the way of support to holding back on fourth reading of the bylaw, or extra conditions that would call on the DBIA to provide some detail of the benefits of any programs they had initiated.
 
The pitch came about half an hour before the request for   the final reading of the bylaw came up for Council’s consideration.
 
Councilor Brian Skakun says he has spoken with a lot of Business owners, and they   have told him, they are being taxed for nothing, as they will not benefit  from the money being collected or spent. Some told him they already pay enough in taxes and downtown should be clean and safe already, others indicate increased taxes will kill their business. “It’s an unfair tax at the wrong time” says Skakun.
 
Councilor Garth Frizzell says this will cost his business directly and he will be supporting it  “I’m putting  my money where my mouth is on this one, and I will be paying for it.”
 
Councillor Murry Krause says he has given   this a lot of thought and looking at a variety of perspectives on what  to do with the downtown core. “I am going to support this reading. We have to get on with doing something with our downtown core, or we will not make the progress we need to make in a timely way.”
 
Councilor Sherri Greene supports the final reading, “I think they’ve  (DBIA) done some really hard work to get to where they need to be . Because the DBIA has fought so diligently and advocated for a better downtown we are seeing a lot of good things coming that are the result of a lot of poking and prodding by the DBIA.”
 
Councillor Don Bassermann, indicated that as a Council they have made their priorities clear and downtown revitalization is on that list. “This is another building block in our view”  He says the process (reverse petition) is a democratic process and while some may not like it, it is a fair process.
 
Councilor Stolz says for whatever reason there is a disconnect between the DBIA here and a small core group of opposition, although  DBIA’s are  successful  in other communities in the Province.
 
Mayor Dan Rogers says he thinks this is the right way to go.
 
Councillor Brian Skakun was the lone dissenter on the final vote, Councilor Debora Munoz was absent.
 
Council has also requested a detailed budget be submitted by June 15th.
 
Last week it was announced those against the proposal had failed to reach the necessary threshold to stop the special levy.
 
Petitions against the special levy were received from 124 property owners, representing  properties with an assessed value of $48,750,800.   The levy could only be stopped  if there was opposition from at least 243 property owners representing an assessed value of no less than $80,214, 101.

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For Sale
What a waste of money!

By the way ..... exactly what is the projected TAX INCREASE for the city of Prince George for 2010?

Why is the new Manager of Communications not communicating this information to the Public?
Who would want to buy?
Approve it, and then requested a detailed budget be submitted by June 15th.
That can't be right? Sounds like the cart before the horse!
The cow is not producing enough milk. Lets torture it to produce more milk. Hmmmm the production went down. cut back on its feed. hmmm the production is going down more. Lets cut back on the water, hmmm just can not figure out why the cow died.
If the assessed value of the downtown is 160 million dollars, that would mean the city of Prince George is already collecting in the excess of $2 million dollars in regular taxes from these property owners. What are they getting for that 2 million dollars.

Sooner or later, the property owners are simply going to stop paying taxes. Let them take the buildings.
Result of DBIA reverse petition.
More empty building. More buildings being bought by the city. More community gardens.
Sounds like and old Jerry Reed song I got the shaft she got the goldmine. I agree with others, what do the downtown businesses get for the Tax Dollars already collected. Don't see much yet and as I said before , who wants to wait 35 years Dan, for an improved Downtown???? Time to put your ( City Council)actions where the $$$$$ is.....
First, I think Sherri Greene should have excused herself from this vote.

Second, I don't think DBIA proponents have done anything to answer skeptics. I haven't seen a single item that details what they plan to do with this money. Hire another coordinator? For that price, that person had better be hanging those baskets him/herself. If they do as good a job "fixing" the downtown as they do with their own communications, we're hooped, but that's nothing new.

And I agree. Where is our city communications person??
There are two councillors who have a business interests in the downtown and should have removed themselves during the process.

Here is what they are allowed to spend the money on:

1. carrying out studies or making reports respecting an area within the Downtown Business Improvement Area;

The city already does enough of those, so hopefully they will not do any of those!!!!!!

2. the improvement, beautification or maintenance of streets, sidewalks or municipally owned land, buildings or structures in the Downtown Business Improvement Area;

Hey, they can fix potholes, sidewalks, etc. and get some better quality lights that will withstand normal downtown traffic.

3. the conservation of heritage property in the Downtown Business Improvement Area improvement area;

Good .... we get to keep the Croft .......!!!!

4. the encouragement of business in the Downtown Business Improvement Area;

Ah .... subsidize half price sales at the Northern.......

I think the DBIA office should move out of the DBIA in order to save paying the rnet increase that the owner will want to pay the increased tax with..... LOL......
BEND OVER TAX PAYERS!!!
Congratulations - now let's get on with it. This is going to be a positive whether the naysayers believe it or not.
Yes greta, it will be positive -positive for the person who will be getting that high paying executive director position.

They've been in business for 10 years now and the downtown has gotten progressively worse. There is no sane reason to believe that they'll accomplish anything other than driving business away.

In this big-box day and age, the only way a downtown will survive and thrive is to provide the consumer with an eclectic array of daytime shopping (we have a start there!) and a vibrant night life. The night life in PG is less than stellar right now.
Sure glad I don't own a business downtown.
Maybe this is the first step towards a true revitalization, but I am skeptical.
All past efforts have failed miserably, hopefully this will do some good.
metalman.
Well, people, you just had an inc. co.
have the city of prince George, pass a bylaw, collecting in excess of $200,000.
for them, payable in full once a year.
It was against the will of most of the businesse owners. The cap of 10,000 dollars also gets subsidized by the smaller businesses around them. This certainly wasnt, a democratic process as pointed out by Dan Rogers. Thanks Brian Skakun for being opposed and standing up
for us building owners.
Well people,I think Brian Skakum will be our next mayor.
Kirk Gable is my hero, after all he has done to improved the downtown. Look at all the changes year after year and like the energizer bunny, he keeps in going. Wow what a guy.
It really don’t matter how much money they throw at the down town this will not fix the problems. Nor will more policing help. Unless the city changes some of the bylaws for downtown they are barking at the moon. The first thing that needs to go are all the junk shops called second hand stores.

There are shops there that have survived for years because they are unique and people continue to go there for that very reason. All this talk about it being a dangerous place to be is shear nonsense. Have you ever herd of someone being mugged or assaulted in the area so why more police?

So there are homeless people in the area. Do they bother people. So they may ask you for a buck . Is that dangerous. There are people in the Superstore parking lot asking for a hand outs but does that mean we don’t shop there or more police are needed.

If you have an idea why not drop the Mayor and Council a line and tell them how to fix things. I bet most of the comments by people on this site haven’t been downtown for a long time . Wal-Mart provides their needs.
Cheers
Kirk Gable is my hero too. Anyone who can get $200,000 for doing nothing has to be a hero. I agree with opinionated - WOW what a guy!
Hey, Captain Kirk, how about getting started lobbying for a parking space tax just like Trasnslink did in 604? My fee for that bit of advice? Free. And worth every cent.
I'm a huge business supporter but see no advantage to this DBIA. Kirk can't sell real estate but he sure can sell the Council and Mayor on having him run the DBIA for $100,000 a year.