I for one will never give up! Yes, it will be a tough job but if we all stand together, we can do it. This is not the time for people to sit on their couch and let this happen. We need ALL OF YOU to help by signing the petition and/or helping to get signatures. Please!

I think the best we can hope for is that the opposition is so strong on paper against the HST,that Campbell's party will eat him.
If they are to survive,he has to be removed and very soon.
Recall legislation on any kind was designed by politicians,and it was designed to fail.
The HST petition will be not any different.
Campbell will find a way to ignore it.
The only thing that will really wake people up is to add up all the extra costs Campbell has slapped on B.C. taxpayers.
Carbon Taxes,HST,33% hydro increase,reduced support for social programs,on and on.
Not to mention the debt load B.C. now carries which I doubt we are being told the truth about.
There will be more to come on the true costs of the Olympics as well.
It all adds up to less in your pocket.
We have to at least try to rattle their cages.
This government is banking on the usual apathy by B.C. voters.
We talk tough, but we usually don't do much in the end.
I would also like to see a damn good general strike in this province.
If it was strong enough,it would act in favour of stopping the HST,but it would also spell the end of Gordon Campbell.
I suspect we WILL see a general strike by this summer.
Lots of contracts coming due and nothing on the table.
Probably even less than they have now.
That should rally the unions.
And don't look for any help from the NDP.
They are a dead party under their present leader Carole James.

I also will sign this petition, for a few
reasons. First, the cavalier attitude of
the government in shoving this down our
throats. Second, they lied, no ifs, ands
or buts. Nothing but pure deception.
Third, it is a transfer of financial burden further onto the backs of the
taxpayers. Fourth, did I mention they lied?
I do have one question though. This is
for all the NDPites. If the NDP get back into power do you think Carol James will
repeal this tax? I'm guessing no, even
though they are opposing it now.

If this effort fails we may as well resign ourselves to a further declining number of people who will even bother to show up on the next fixed Election Day to vote. For what will be the point?

We were told by the BC Liberals in the last election that there would be no HST. Only to find, that after that group returns to office, there will be. And essentially, there's nothing whatsoever WE, the people, can do about it.

Since then there have been a litany of excuses why we must have this tax. As well as a continual see-saw effort to shift the blame for 'having' to implement it between the Federal government and its Provincial counterpart, as it's become increasingly clear it's not a tax that most British Columbians want.

The one thing that should be clear has never been made clear. The real reason "Why?" we should have it at all. There has been nothing more than obfuscation on that point, and a kind of "divide and conquer" strategy employed to set the supposed benefits to "business" against the very real detriments to each of us as individuals.

So let us ask, "Why?", indeed. Why is it that ALL our governments, to who we now contribute half our annual incomes through all the various and sundry methods they've devised to remove them from us through taxation, are still running in the 'red'? And still cutting the delivery of all the various and sundry services and other government provided things we're supposed to be paying for? Would this problem be solved if they removed the other half of our incomes form us in taxation, too? Clearly it would NOT be. We would be poorer than we are already becoming.

It is time, long past time in actuality, for us to say "enough is enough". The Petition against the HST is the one legal vehicle we have available to do just that. To send these people who pretend THEY govern us a very clear message that it is WE they work for, and have put in their now very well paid positions to deliver results for. And we're NOT going to sit back and be screwed any further. Sign the Petition, and lets make this thing we call 'democracy' work for us for a change.

"Third, it is a transfer of financial burden further onto the backs of the
taxpayers."

Unless you count magic beans then all government revenue comes from taxpayers. For most of us this isnt new information.

"Not to mention the debt load B.C. now carries which I doubt we are being told the truth about."

Reduce taxes and debt and use magic beans!? Please try to at least keep your comments consistent with themselves.

The fact that anti-Liberals cant even make intelligent comments suggests that they are onto something.

I agree Ben, this has very little chance of working.

I will sign the petition, but I believe that people are too apathetic in general to care.

And to answer a question above, no, Carole James would not repeal the HST if the NDP came into power. There was some excuse about not being able to unscramble an omelette.

Amen socredible...amen!
And let's also look at the 33% hydro as another example of the greed,
This increase that doesn't seem to be getting the attention and anger it deserves.
We are constantly told to conserve hydro,natural gas etc.etc.
We are offered grants to help with that.
So,many of us take advantage of what is offered and do our part.
We insulate,new furnaces,low energy this,low energy that,light bulbs,appliances etc.
And it works...up to a point.
But it works so well that as we conserve,revenue for outlets like B.C.Hydro actually drops.
So what do they do?
To make up for the lost revenue from conserving energy and reducing our monthly bills,they raise the price.
In the end,we are no better off.
It is a no winner.
Once again we are scammed with rhetoric and spin.
Most of all,we need to remind these carpetbaggers WE elected that WE have had enough of their lies and manipulation.
There is an honesty principal here, and we need to make a point once and for all!
Sign the petition,make some noise!
And always remember,we ARE the government.
THEY are "elected representatives" and they are only representing themselves!

where does one go to sign it?

We all hate paying more taxes and the accumulated debt we are passing on means we are mortgaging our kids future. But when I hear the endless whining from the NDP, unions and all the advocacy groups aren't they really saying pay more taxes?
Want better,quicker, more comprehensive health care? Pay more taxes. Want no schools closed and cheaper education, more teachers etc? Pay more taxes.
Want better roads, bridges, infrastructure? Pay more taxes. You can have it all, just give them your wallet. There is only one taxpayer and that is you.
Everyone can grumble about the debt and want government to control it. The only way they can is through taxes and limiting spending. So well we don't like the HST what will happen if we don' t take the HST and the one time payment of $1,200,000,000.00 from the Federal boys? You guessed it. They will make it up in taxes.
Governments around the world are facing huge debt problems. Many countries in the European Union are essentially bankrupt and our giant neighbour to the south is in deep doodoo. In Canada and BC we are in much better shape but our feeling of entitlement has to be reined in. Spending has to be controlled and debts have to be paid.
It is like watching a dysfunctional family with two previous wage earners now down to one breadwinner all demanding that things remain the same.

Another thing, I was at the rally they had last summer and there were less than 200 people there. What a let down! There were lots of people sitting on their arses in their vehicles slamming on their horns though. All that did was make it hard to hear the people talking. We need you to actually support by making a stand! There will be people who have volunteered to take petitions to be signed around the neighbourhoods here as well. That will start in April. Until then sign at the link below please.


http://www.bcndp.ca/hstpetition

Jimmi. The petition will begin to circulate on April 6th. Canvassers will be going from door to door for signatures. There will be more information available after the meeting this Friday at 7PM at the University when Bill Vanderzalm will make a speech and outline the strategy for the 90 day campaign. Room 7-238

I detect some notes of defeatism in some of the posts above., I myself beleive that this petition has a chance to succeed. The constant whining that something is a done deal, and nothing can be done about it has to end. Governments rely on our apathy.

To get this petition signed and become legislation is the last thing the Liberals want. They want to implement the tax, and get out of Dodge. If we keep this issue, along with the Hydro issue, plus the recent $780 Million they scammed from ICBC we can really apply the pressure.

Keeping these issues in the limelight will ensure at the very least that our freind Mr Campbell and some of his cronies will become history. This in itself will be worth the effort.

Everyone should ensure they sign the petition. 5000 signatures in each riding are required. This can be done. They need 50 Volunteers or more to get 100 Signaures each.

Lets show this, and other Governments once and for all, that we are done with tax increases. Its now time to excercise fiscal responsibility.

Your theory would be fine RIP if we were dumb enough to believe anything this government says.
Unfortunately,they have proven many times that they cannot be trusted to tell the truth.
The cash from the feds will disappear into the usual self-serving projets and we will never really know where most it went.
Much of it will also likely go to servicing debt that they created and probably haven't told us about.
And we will still be paying more for everything in general.
If we were dealing with a government with a reputation for honesty, as opposed to being bald-face lairs prone to severe mismanagment of anything they touch,it might be a different story.
To believe anything that this government says is not only naive,it is financially dangerous.
I doubt they can be trusted to manage a lump sum of $1,2000,000,000.00.
The thought of the likes of Gordon Campbell and his cronies in charge of that much dough in a lump sum is terrifying.
That amount is a little too much temptation for these clowns!

but its harmonized - musically sound. can't we get along.

but its harmonized - musically sound. can't we get along.

Question? BC's debt is $56 Billion and someone will have to pay it. While many posters on this site would like to blame Gordon Campbell for every problem in this country. Sometimes when you open your mouth you remove all doubt.
As i said nobody wants to pay more taxes but when you deny the principle who is going to pay the interest?
If you don't take the $1.2 Billion signing bonus from the feds you will pay for it in other ways such as increased MSP, ICBC, Hydro.fuel,hidden taxes, and all other service costs. That is the reality, like it or not. You cannot demand lower taxes without lower services.
Liken it to dealing with two ladies of the night. One will cost you and the other offers you $1.2 Billion for choosing her. What's your choice? Stand on your principles or pick up the perk.
I don't like the HST but I am not so naive to think that if we do not take it we will pay for it in other ways.
Here in BC we are in better shape and lower taxes than the rest of the country. This worldwide recession was triggered on Bill Clinton's last day in office when he implemented the deregulation of the financial sector and created the giant and criminal Ponzi scheme that has affected everyone. Governments everywhere are trying to deal with it. This is the reality.
The next election will not change the facts that we have this debt which has to be paid. So when the federal Liberals, Bloc, and NDP and provincial NDP all scream for increased funding and "Ban the HST" just remember the bill still comes one way or the other.

I suppose if the HST petition doesn't work, maybe Gordo can at least get a wake up call with the number of signatures the petition does get.

He would have to acknowledge it to be woken up to it. Until it hits the legislature no matter how many signatures are on it, it is just hot air to him.

Let's not assume Gordon Campbell even cares what we think,because he doesn't.
He does not believe for one second we can stop the HST, nor does he believe we can remove him or his government.
His arrogance and his ego prevents that.
He should be watching his back because the threat will likely come from within the party itself.

Governments don't recognize petitions nor do they kowtow to unruly mobs. I sure wouldn't want my democracy run that way. No NDP. How about a new party? Not left or right, but in the middle. Impossible you say? Hmmm?

I'm up for a new party!
Let the party begin!
Hopefully it won't cost as much as the big one we just had!
How much was that one anyway?
Oh right...we don't know yet!

...but I bet the cost of the big bash has a LOT to do with this government wanting the HST so badly!

Ramsay was worth recalling. The HST - not so much!

Some of the posts on here leave me wondering at just what point WOULD you BC Liberal supporters revolt against further taxation?

Or do you just blindly accept whatever is imposed in new taxes because they come from the Party you voted for? And "fearless Leader" must know what's good for us.

For a group that set such great store in "Tax cuts work!" when first trying to get elected, there's been scant evidence that there's any intention to practice what was once so fervently preached. Too bad, because as BC Social Credit once proved, this kind of taxation is totally counter-productive.

You say we are $ 56 billion in debt, and "someone" has to pay it. No one is denying that. But just what do you propose we pay it with? Out of 'incomes' that are already collectively inadequate to fully liquidate the totality of 'prices' for goods and services available in our economy? And that's on a 'cost' basis of those prices, disregarding business profit.

Removing 'more' in HST, Carbon Taxes,bloated Hydro bills, and the whole gamut of Campbell's takings past, present, and no doubt in store for us in the future, hardly seems to me to be the solution for retiring this debt. Likely we'll shortly find it has grown even larger. And personal debt along with it.

We have to reduce it proportional to growth in the economy. And we're failing in doing that. Raising taxes and fees will only make that worse, not better. For surely it must be obvious we can't have growth in the economy when no one is left with enough money after taxes to even pay for the purchases which drive existing economic activity, let alone any growth in it. Or is that too hard to understand for BC Liberals ?

Harbinger, the only Party we've ever had that was "in the middle" was a group that spent most of the first twenty years they were in office denying that they were a "Party".

The old BC Social Credit "League" ~ "not a Party of the Left, nor of the Right, but a genuine, middle-of-the-road, grass-roots, free-enterprise Movement."

As long as they were exactly what they said they were, they were successful. And we got generally good government with sound fiscal management, and taxes that remained under control. Not perfect, they made mistakes, too, as all who'll be in office will.

But by and large they learned from them, and they weren't repeated. When they veered off to the Right, near the end of WAC Bennett's tenure, and then coalesced even further in that direction as an actual "Party" with those "big City", carpet-bagging, BC Liberals doing a reverse take-over, we began the slow descent to what we have now. Maybe it's time to reverse that descent, and go back to having a "Party" in office that never wanted to be one.