Good news for the province of Vancouver. How much fuel and time will it take to get to locations outside the lower mainland?

perhaps Gordo's new security detail have a new toy to protect BC'S WMD!

Hope they are not impaired when driving.

Yup....turning in to a policed state our province. I've seen those types of vehicles in Red China.

I hear that they are no match for IEDs.

Perhaps these are left over from the security response teams deployed in the Vancouver area during the Olympics? Part of the Olympic legacy?

When you think of the BILLIONS of dollars the HA and organized crime have to try and protect their turf, and you see the few paltry dollars Canada spends on law enforcement, this is a drop in the bucket. However if just one of these machines goes through an HA clubhouse, I'd consider it bought and paid for, or line up the Harleys and let it roll. Have fun with it.

Be afraid...be very afraid!
Just another brick in road on the way to police state.
Sometimes things are not as simple as they are made to sound.

my goodness people you complain that they waste our money and can't protect us then when they are GIVEN some equipment that is going to help them to get the bad guys when they have barracaded themselves in a house, etc you still all complain!!

I think it is great they have been given this equipment to help them

There is no need for this type of equipment in BC or in Canada in the hands of the Police. This is all Ego Bullshit.

Before you know it we will have another Waco on our hands, or a Ruby Ridge.

A local Police Force does not need to be fitted out like the Army. If we have a major problem we can call in the Army, thats what they are there for.

Andys somewhat right in that slowly but surely our freedoms are being taken away under the guise that **its for the public good**

The Police can now, or will be able to in the very near future stop you and your vehicle without any reason.

The real problem in this Country is that there is a lot of people who think that, that is **OK**.

Remember the old saying **The road to Hell is paved with good intentions** I suspect there are a hell of a lot of people in this Country who do not know what the hell that saying means.

It basically means that all your freedoms will be taken away under the guise that its for the good of the Country, and at the end of the day, your freedoms will be gone, and you will be living in a hell.

So get with it, and stop supporting a Police State, and stop supporting restrictive laws. If you dont, over time you or your Children will pay the price.

nice going liberals !! you will need them when you go into public

These vehicle were GIVEn to the RCMP by our military...
So If you have a problem with that talk to the head of our Canadain Military...I belie is it Mr McKay....I doubt that he will listen to you...

Its one thing to give, its another to take.

I suppose if the Army was to give them a few tanks, a couple jet fighters, a submarine, and some hand grenades, that wuld be *OK* also.

If you want to get rid of the Criminal Element, then start to arrest, and convict them, and then sentence them to the maximum penalty under the law. If you cant do this, then you dont have a police force or a justice system anyway, so why bother with a couple of TAV 11's.

I think that a reasonable person can come to the conclusion that criminals are not sentenced to the maximum under the law, for no other reason than it is very costly. It is much cheaper for the Goverment to slap them on the wrists and let them go. This has to stop. Do the crime, do the time, is the best way to go.

Maybe most of the whiners on here would be happier if the police just had bicycles and slingshots.

Yup, our system lets the criminals walk amongst us then it allows the police to aquire these type of machines to stop the honest people from protecting themselves. It's the easy way for our politicians to deal with/control the population as a whole.

Be afraid, be very afraid!!!

I see the collaborator is still here!

It's basically a brinks truck on steroids. All is does is allow cops to extract victims/hostages or other police officers without fear of a bullet cutting through the vehicle. Police state? Save the drama, maybe cops shouldn't carry guns either. Sounds like some people on this website have had some negative contacts with the police, unwarranted I'm sure!

Yup, people watch too many movies and listen to too many conspiracy theories.

Police State? lol! Some people have no idea how good we have it in Canada.

Hey upper, you know what happens when you assume, correct?
BTW you spelled Canadian wrong! Baaaaaa

"Some people have no idea how good we have it in Canada."

Currently!

I have to say those look pretty cool. Given the level of increased firepower that criminals have, I doubt this will be the last of heavier equipment the police will require.

I wonder if they can do the monster truck thing and run right over cars?

5 years ago was ok, 10 years ago was much better, 15 years ago was really good, 20 years ago was excellent, 25 years ago was tremendous, 30 years ago was, well you get the idea. Don't you?

If you predict the sky is falling long enough, will you eventually be right?

"5 years ago was ok, 10 years ago was much better, 15 years ago was really good, 20 years ago was excellent, 25 years ago was tremendous, 30 years ago was, well you get the idea. Don't you?"

Yes, it's called 'getting older'. It sucks, but there's not much anyone can do about it.

thank god we mr pg to take our hands and guide us thru our ignorant bliss

Yeah! Get out of the way you whiners!

Seems to me these are the same vehicles that "blowed up real good" in the first Die Hard movie. And trashed by the bad robot in Robocop II. Life imitating art? Hope the druggies never get their hands on any RPGs.

Mr PG. You wouldnt know a police state if you were living in one.

There is nothing trite or funny about giving up your freedom to the Police or the Politicians.

If you know nothing about freedom or the loss of it such as has happened in Europe, Africa, and many other Countries, then do some research before you make glib statements.

It shouldnt be hard to figure out what the problem is here in BC and Canada. We are passing more and more laws every day, everyone which takes away a little more freedom, we will bleed to death from a thousand cuts.

Remember it is the Politicians, and the Police who are asking for and getting changes to all these laws. It is not (for the most part) the common citizen, so you should ask yourself why do they keep asking for more, and more laws????

If the Police were not allowed to stop you unless they beleived that you commited a crime a few years ago, then why should they be allowed to stop you to-day.??? The same question applies to many other laws that have been passed.

The laws just make it much easier for them to do whatever it is they wish to do, and it is only a matter of time, and they will be able to come right into your home without a warrant.

Trudeau once said the the Government had no place in the bedrooms of the nation, and he was right. They also have no business in the houses, or the vehicles of the people of this Country, without a warrant, or a valid reason to beleive they have committed an offence. To think otherwise is foolish.

Insofar as police on bicycles and without guns go, you only have to look at Britian to see that Police dont have to be armed to the teeth to uphold the law.

We are getting closer and closer to the American model of policing which is a very scary model. Those dudes have no qualms about kicking down your door and puttng the boots to you, and then apoligize later if they have the wrong guy.

Also as an aside, didn't Inspector Frank Drebbin drive one of these through a bad guys house?

Wow, sure beats the taser gun.

Sure would have scared the poop out of those guys bustin windows at the BAY during the olympics. Just one shot, please just one shot.

Honest to God, in every story does there have to be a conspiracy theory or some convoluted plot?
Perhaps they just got the vehicles in case of a terrorist incident, a gang shootout or av out of control blockade.
Some of you guys need to wear a sandwich board around that says TOXIC.

Honest to God, in every story does there have to be a conspiracy theory or some convoluted plot?
Perhaps they just got the vehicles in case of a terrorist incident, a gang shootout or an out of control blockade.
Some of you guys need to wear a sandwich board around that says TOXIC.

This is a police state acquisition. Absolutely no need for a police force to have this type of equipment. Palopu is right in that if the need arises then that is what the military is for. This just gives police state tools to an unaccountable power structure.

A few years back the Canadian military also gave 100 of these to the new African Union Mission in Darfur. Turns out they were essentially useless against tribal warriors on camels using simple hand weapons. Essentially they are all show and pomp, but little in the realm of being able to handle the kinds of threats they are sold for. Its why Canada went to the new Lav3's for Afghanistan.

I'd love to acquire the TAV at no cost.
Where do I write to get mine?

Did not the natives disable a machine like this at Gustafson Lake?

Palopu: "Mr PG. You wouldnt know a police state if you were living in one."

And you would? No, I didn't think so. Palopu, you can type a lot but say very little sometimes.

You guys are good entertainment, I'll give you that. Yes, it's all a plot. And Gordon Campbell must be behind this somehow!

Palopu: "Trudeau once said the the Government had no place in the bedrooms of the nation, and he was right. They also have no business in the houses, or the vehicles of the people of this Country, without a warrant, or a valid reason to beleive they have committed an offence. To think otherwise is foolish"

OH really......didn't Trudeau invoke the war measures act during the FLQ crisis and said to a reporter who questioned his authority: "Just watch me"?

Stow it.

legalize recreational drugs and the police would not need this type of machine

Palopu, I am starting to think your ramblings are doing via a cellular telephone at the psychiatric ward at PGRH. Police state? Are you living in the same country I am? It's people like you which make reading this website so difficult as it's not about news, rather its about retard bloggers who live in their moms basement and have nothing good to say about anything. Sounds like you need a vacation, I would recommend China or Cuba, somewhere a person has a voice.

Uppercanadian. Your next original thought will be your first.

You obviously beleive all the BS put out there, and therfore are no more than a bleating sheep running in circles and being watched by a dog.

The whole idea behind freedom, is the ability to have opposing views, and the freedom to express them.

Obviously you do no understand the concept, so how the hell could you ever be part of the solution.

You my freind are the one in Moms basement, and it appears you have been there for some time, if your comments are any indication.

Imorge. What Trudeau did may have been wrong. What he said was right. There is a significant difference.

Palopu says, "We are getting closer and closer to the American model of policing which is a very scary model. Those dudes have no qualms about kicking down your door and puttng the boots to you, and then apoligize later if they have the wrong guy"

Don't they already do that here in BC? Yup they have.

These vehicles will be a great asset to the RCMP and will be very useful in some difficult and dangerous circumstances.

I hope the RCMP can get more of them, asap!

Every town and city should have at least one on standby.

Once painted in the familiar RCMP vehicle colours they will look less like ex-military gear!

Imorge says, "OH really......didn't Trudeau invoke the war measures act during the FLQ crisis and said to a reporter who questioned his authority: "Just watch me"?

Talk about comparing apples to watermelons!
The FLQ were terrorist that killed whats his name.
Are you comparing the FLQ to law abiding citizens? Yes you are. Holy crackhead batman!

Id like to take one of them for a romp in the back 40, I wonder if they leave the keys in em'?

These are for the safety of the officers who face heavily-armed criminals. The criminals can acquire better weapons, why can't the police?

I don't see how these vehicles infringe on our "freedoms".

Someone post a list of freedoms that have been lost, legitamately, in the past 10-15 years. I don't mean things like smoking in restaurants, etc, that is just a sign of a socialogical change. If such a list is forthcoming, then those who are crying "this is just parnoia" may get a wake up call, and if those who complain about eroding freedoms can't come up with a list, then maybe they will see we don't have it so bad.

Dear Drag: if you have any idea at all, you should see that I was rebutting palpalu's quote of Trudeau's. And pal, trudeau did and said the right thing.

Are these vehicles gonna be trailered? I can't see, for the life of me, how they can be licensed for street use. RCMP are now shopping around fer a big SUV and a trailer or two to haul these scrap iron suckers around? ICBC probably doesn't even have these things listed in their book. It's OK. Taxpayers dough. Lots of that.

"Someone post a list of freedoms that have been lost, legitamately, in the past 10-15 years. "

I think I hear crickets.

1. Seat Belts required in cars.

2. Helmets required when riding a bike

3. Long Gun Registry.

4. Once Long Guns are registered the Inspectors have the right to enter your home to ensure that the guns and ammunition are properly stored.

5. No longer able to talk on Cellphone while driving your vehicle.

6. Body Scanners at Airports. (Invasion of privacy)

7. Mandatory breathalizer, and subject to a fine if one refuses to blow. (Self incriminating evidence)

8. Being arbritrally stopped in road blocks and interrogated, without any indication that a crime has been commited.

9. Smoking in private vehicle, when children under 15 are present.

9. Booster seats for children under the age of nine, or weigh less that 80lbs.

10. Mandatory testing to operate a motor boat. (Even though you may have operated one for 50 years)

11. Teenagers unable to get a boni fide drivers license at the age of 16 and must go through a two year graduated driving program. (Even though every Citizen over the age of 16 in Canada was able to get their license at age 16. (This is discriminatory, and an invasion of their freedom)

12. Mandatory ICBC (Government) Insurance. No longer free to buy your insurance from a business of your choice.

13. Taxation without representation. Non Elected members of Goverment entities such as BC Transit, and Airport Authoritys have the ability to assess taxes, without being elected to do so.

14. Government entities such as Northern Trust Initiave, and Initiatives Pr George, being allowed to allocate and spend taxpayers dollars, without having any direct responsibility to the taxpayers and voters.

These are just off the top of my head, and Im sure there are some that I have missed, in any event theres your list.

I realize that most people will say that these are good laws, and should be in place, which of course backs up my statement earlier that **The road to hell is paved with good intentions**

There is a movement afoot to allow the RCMP to pull you over and interrogate you even if he has no indication that a crime has been committed. How far away are we from them coming into our houses.

On can say that this is some sort of paranoia, however we have good examples of a police states all over the world, and to think that over time we couldnt have it here is foolish.

"I realize that most people will say that these are good laws, and should be in place, which of course backs up my statement earlier that **The road to hell is paved with good intentions**"

You must be a riot at parties.

Well at least you sort of see how silly that list is.

We don't live in the 50's anymore. I think what people fear most is change. You can be rest assured that the world will continue to evolve and change. Nothing stays the same forever.

Canada is the best country in the world to live in, even though we have silly things like seatbelt laws and the like.

**It is the besetting vice of democracies to substitute public opinion for law. This is the usual form in which the masses of men exhibit their tyranny.** James Fenimore Cooper (1789-1851)

**He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression** Thomas Paine

**Quis Custodiet ipsos custodes** (Who will police the police) Latin Proverb.

**A society of sheep must in time beget a Government of wolves** Bertrand de Jouvenal

**The price of freedom is eternal vigilance** Thomas Jefferson

**The more corrupt the state the more numerous the laws** Tacitus

**Its not where weve been, or where we are at that concerns me the most. It where we are headed** Palopu

Have a nice day.

Awesome. You even quoted yourself at the end of your last post. That tells me a lot.

The fact that I quoted myself was a joke, the fact that you missed it tells me a lot.

Riiiight.