I understand there is to be another night club going in this location. That should put more egg on the face of Mayor Rogers.

I sincerely hope this will not turn into what once was. More drugs were sold in that old cadillac than you can shake a stick at. Perhaps it will help police to have all the sellers in one place again but I just hope that if in fact it's another liqour outlet, that new tenants will cover it with cameras to assist police and liqour inspectors in keeping it clean.

"More drugs were sold in that old Cadillac than you can shake a stick at."

yeah, mostly the non prohibited government taxed socially acceptable variety known as alcohol.

What does it matter if it is socially acceptable or government approved, it is all mood altering intoxicants. It all has desired and undesired effects.

A drunk is just another type of junkie. Most of the patrons to these establishments are regular users, often to access, which I believe to be part of the definition of substance abuse. Again, the only real difference between alcohol, crack, heroin, or pot is the current legal status and social acceptance. By the way, the latest polls indicate that over half of Canadian citizens support the legalization or "decriminalization" of pot.

The very nature of a night club is such that all the patrons are looking to get high. Most prefer or are content with just consuming alcohol, others are looking for a different or added flavor of the other intoxicants.

Vanilla sheeple need to open their eyes and have a look at the world as it is, not as the believe it to be. It is a big strange world and you may be surprised to find which of your acquaintances participates in consuming these illegal substances. Your nice neighbor, your kid's school teacher, the doctors receptionist, etc.

People want to get high. Nothing will stop them.

Person "A" walks into the bar, heads for the bar and orders a beer.
Person "B" walks into the bar, heads for the bathroom and scores some crack.
These two acts are exactly the same in your view Loki?

anybody who thinks the drug trade slowed down after the Ranch was closed is very naive.

Loki, just because every second person out there may use drugs of some kind does not mean that I have to agree with it. Sure, my brother, my sister, my father may enjoy getting high from time to time, but does that mean I have to sacrifice my beliefs? I choose not to, I don't believe in the legalization of cocaine, meth or heroin, I would love to have a place to go with friends to enjoy a glass of wine if I so choose and maybe dance a little... a place that has no ties to organized crime would be nice. What's so wrong with that?

I wonder if the Cooles will get it. Good people best landlords I have ever had.

ROTFLMAO at the Cooles comment!!! what a freakin joke!!

Wow, Loki. Wow.

hopefully not a liquor place

Indeed those two acts are exactly the same. High is high, intoxicated is intoxicated.

"every second person out there may use drugs of some kind "
There is the crux of the matter. In fact it is much higher (no pun). If you really want to take this further, caffeine is mood altering as well, so that would imply that combining just about all mood altering substances, just about every one gets high somehow. Some people cannot begin their day without a coffee. Of course it is claimed that they are not addicted, sometime they do admit addiction, but in any case, it is still using a drug (that is what caffeine is) for a desired effect.

Now that is a little extreme to include caffeine, but the point is that humans have been getting high since before there was civilization. Even animals deliberately seek out naturally fermented products for the expressed purpose of getting stoned.

It is impossible to control or regulate an illegal product. The only way to control distribution and access is to legalize it all. If you are concerned about organized crime, take away their income stream and they are no longer a problem.

By the way, the prohibition of alcohol actually created the organized crime groups that exist today. When alcohol was legalized, they moved onto other illegal products. The only difference I see is that today, the government controls and regulates a now legal commodity. It was the peoples resistance to an absurd prohibition by actively seeking out the then illegal and perceived to be immoral product that forced the government to relent. You cannot jail over half the population. The same thing is happening today with pot and to a lesser extent the hard chemicals.

Your belief system is indeed yours and you should not have to compromise that. By the same token, you do not have the right or authority to enforce your belief system on your brother, your sister, your father or anyone else. That is the Christian and Muslim thing to do. This is the point that pisses me off. Just because you believe that people should not get high, you force that believe on others by prohibiting their preferred intoxicant. Goose and gander dude.

Hi there, mrpg.

Let's blame the mayor for everything wrong about PG. That is an easy way out.

Hopefully a decent nightclub will go in. For a city this size, Prince George really lacks a nightlife.

Yes, I agree Arthur. We need a decent nightclub in PG, some place where we can go dance & socialize. I prefer country music so I'm hoping it will be another country bar and cater to the mid to upper ages & not the younger crowd.

While I too reside in the age bracket you are speaking of, having a nightclub for the mid to upper ages is non-starter. For the most part we in that age bracket don't go out enough to warrant it. Younger people go out way more often and thus it's a more profitable venture.

Nightclubs are a business, not a social club.

Even when the Club 770 used to be open (I worked there on occasion as DJ) it was only open 2 sometimes 3 nights per week. The hotel could afford to do that because they owned it and no rent was required. No new club in the Cadillac location could survive on 2-3 nights a week and pay rent etc...

Yes, you are right, it would only be occasionally and not every night like the young ones do. Gettin' too old for that :-)

"For a city this size, Prince George really lacks a nightlife."

Boy, have you got that one right!!!!!!

Living in Orange county or Salt Lake City would be les prohibitive!!!!!!

Can we create a list of night clubs in this city In the mid 70s to the mid 80's and compare it to a list of today.

So, 30 years ago:

- 770
- Sgt. O'Flaherty
- Yellowhead Lounge
- Another club at the Yellowhead that I forget the name of
- the lounge at the Simon Fraser had entertainment off and on
- the cabaret at the Simon Fraser
- The Iron Horse, the first of the new pubs ands changing trend
- various names of places at the Rum Jungle
- the Vhiskey Mill (not allowed to use Whiskey in the name of a drinking establishment, that says it all about the WASP origins we have)
- the Vienna Schnitzel which was really a cabaret at night
- the Restaurant/cabaret at the Inn which was set up with entertainment and dance floor
- the Log House Restaurant which also had entertainmetn and a dance floor.

I am sure I am missing several. Corrections, additions, deletions gladly accepted.

I am not including the "other" places such as the PG Hotel, the Canada, the Macdonald hotel, the blues club on George, the Tapas bar across from City Hall, etc.

We moved to pubs and now to Starbucks and Second Cup .....

There are still plenty of 30 to 45 year olds in this community who frequented those places at that time. Ourt lifestyle has changed ..... and part of that might very well be the silent and hiddent users of the white coke ....

I am with Loki ..... too many people are putting their heads in the sand on the realities of the use of mind altering substances and other so-called vices. It is a world wide reality and it is a "problem" only to the extent we make it a probelm.

Too strict, it become a worse problem. Too lenient, it becomes a worse problem.

The equilibrium where it is "controllable" or "tolerable" is very difficult to achieve, especially when people do not agree on how to approach it. Also, it changes with the times one lives in as well as the location one lives in.

It will be interesting to see what California does in the Fall.

"California sets marijuana legalization vote for November" ....

Ain't that interesting ... with a Republican Governor at the helm.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/03/25/1546385/california-sets-marijuana-legalization.html

come on mr pg, your obvious intelligence is not being put to use. I know you and I do not agree on the subject of intoxicants, that's cool, if we all believed the same thing we could not grow in our knowledge or intellectual capacity. I am curious as to your actual thoughts as I presented them. An astonished expression is not an opinion.

Bare in mind that I am asking for you to express your opinion, so use debate decorum. Present your side, address the points that you agree with and don't agree with.

The Playgirl
Monks
Delaney's
Overdrive
The Tack room
The Barn
Coach's Corner
Viva's
Joe's Place
Generator
Nelly's Pub
Pumphouse
Alpine

...Larry's boozecan

Loki, all I did was write three words and you're trying to bait me into responding?

Look, every time these threads come up, you say the same things and so do I. I highly doubt anything I had to say would influence you and vice versa. Let's just leave it at that.

I will say one thing, as long as you believe that having a beer is the same as shooting heroin or snorting cocaine, we'll never see eye to eye on the issue.

Methinks that the City has known all along who is going to move into the old Cadillac Ranch.

They are now going through the motions of pretending that they will look at the proposal, and then make a decision.

Then comes the big surprise announcement, and we all clap our hands and jump up and down in glee.

the place was a dump,thats good it closed.we need to elimanate all night clubs in p.g,all it is violence when people are drunk.

the place was a dump,thats good it closed.we need to elimanate all night clubs in p.g,all it is violence when people are drunk.

You are wrong pgguru...not all people drink or get drunk when they go to nightclubs and not all people that do drink are violent. It's just the select few that ruin it for others.

"The City received just one “expression of interest” but City Hall is not able to discuss any other details as this is now a matter that could require negotiations if the City is interested in the proposal put forth."

Okay, let's put some theories out.

1. How about that TNW is moving downtown. Could be that is why the new Artistic Director is leaving.

2. That Hooters restaurant they have been talking about for 20 years is coming to town ... do they still exist.

3. A brand new bowling alley.

4. I know, Chapters with a Starbucks in the corner.

5. A grand piano show room in anticipation of the new cultural district to be created downtown.

6. The western satellite site of Toronto's seven lounge. http://www.sevenlounge.ca

You were not being "baited".
I civilly asked for your opinion because I thought you would be able to add a valued differing opinion. Perhaps even bring up a point not yet noted.