This is GREAT news for Mackenzie! I'm thrilled for all of you. I'm not a Liberal fan but that being said, it's time to give credit where credit is due and a big thank you to Pat for his help in making this happen.

Great news for Mackenzie! Now if we could find a buyer for Eurocan?? I don't know a whole lot about this situation, but I believe the mill closed due to bankruptcy of the company, not because it was a bad mill. To bad Worthington had to come in and play games for a couple years, anyways, my congradulations to Mackenzie.

Good to hear.

Hard work pays off finally! Thanks, Pat!

Wait a second... didn't everyone say the Pat Bell and the Liberals were conspiring to shut down small towns like Mackenzie? Seems like a funny way to go about it.

Good news, indeed.

I am sick and tired of Pat/ Shirley bashing. When are you folks going to wake up and count your blessings????

Stop being so surprized that Pat did something good.He is aways working for the people of British Columbia. Do you really want to go back to an NDP government? Wake up!!!!!!

Have a great day!!!

To opinionated, who are you talking to?

I am sick and tired of Pat/ Shirley bashing. When are you folks going to wake up and count your blessings????

Stop being so surprized that Pat did something good.He is aways working for the people of British Columbia. Do you really want to go back to an NDP government? Wake up!!!!!!

Have a great day!!!

I'm not surprised at all. I think its been Pat Bell's plan since before he was elected to find an Asian buyer (specifically this one) for the Mackenzie pulp mill. BC liberal policies with BC Rail and the wood lot rights created the situation to begin with, and its no secret Pat's been big on the Asia connection since elected.

IMO its a step backwards from the time when Pat was elected, but at least its a step forward from the nothing his government left Mackenzie with. They say in geopolitics if you want to create something new you have to first destroy what was there before, and this fits the model of Mackenzie under the BC liberals.

We will get raw resource extraction out of this deal that will employ loggers and a few mill workers... we will not have any value added in the form of paper production, co-gen, or pellet plants, or anything of the sort... its purely about getting raw pulp to Asia where they can process it over there (BC liberal forestry policy).

AIMHO

I can't stand the two HST supporting Campbell's yes people who thumb their noses at the majority of people in their constituancies, slam their hands on the table in cabinet whenever Hansen starts yappin about HST. So tell me, just what in the hell did Mr had his Bell rung actually do? Give them money? Promises he can't deliver. Did he throw a wad of his own money into it. Did he negotiate the deal?

MrPG:"To opinionated, who are you talking to?"

See the above post from April 16 2010 5:04 PM as just one example of many!

Thanks again, Pat & Shirley!

(Pat is also involved with finding some solution for Eurocan).

Pat Bell needs to get his facts straight before spewing B.S. There is more than only one mill not running, wake up Pat Belly! Abitibi Site 2 is going to be taken apart and brought over to Site 1 which means one mill= less jobs. As of today everyone at site 1 sawmill was laid off for 2to6 months nobody knows for sure.Next week after all the rough wood is planed and the planer mill is cleaned up everyone that worked for Abitibi will be laid off! So put your brain in gear before you put your mouth in motion there minister of Forests and Range.

The cry baby a big actor even had to take his glasses off so you could see his tears.

I believe Eagleone has hit the nail on the head. The cheerleaders (ie; MrPG opinionated and their ilk) add nothing to any discussion.

Another often repeated conspiracy theory from Eagleone. Any Zionists involved with this one, eagleone?

I'd rather be seen as a 'cheerleader' than a 'downer', which most of the posters on this site are. I feel sorry for many of these people's families. Life is too short to be negative about absolutely everything. What an awful way to live.

People may look at compassion in any number of ways, in the end as for Pat he worked hard and long hours to make something happen that really presents a benefit to workers and family's in Mack. Your only one person but when you see your effort present a postive outcome the heart takes over and one time or another we have all been there, thanks Pat for giving it all.

Aw, isn't that sweet? Mrpg is concerned about the negativity caused by his team affecting people's families. My guess would be they may only harbor negative feelings toward your team, Mrpg. I would also consider the negativity toward your team acceptable, therapuetic even. It's been a long while but I seem to remember cheerleaders as being slightly vacuous. But, like Tim Wilson, "I could be wrong".

What are you babbling about now, joeboy?

Posted by: acrider54 on April 17 2010 6:10 AMThe cry baby a big actor even had to take his glasses off so you could see his tears.

So...he's human. In my humble opinion it shows he cares.
My family has been affected by the downturn in Mackenzie and in another's words "...a little good news today!"

All things considered, I think Mackenzie is coming out of this better than I expected.

Good job Mr Bell.

dirtcheap

I quote you:

"Pat Bell needs to get his facts straight before spewing B.S. There is more than only one mill not running, wake up Pat Bell"

You better reread the story, your rant is not based on anything quoted to Bell, it is based on a line written by the author of the story.

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

Babbling, Mrpg?? Naw, just making an observation. Seems I struck a nerve. And it seems that you are like most bullies..
oh I mean cheerleaders. Call them out and they ain't got much to say.

Struck a nerve? I'm not even close to caring about what you have to say (which isn't much), so try your best.

So what did Mr Bell do? No one seems to know, It's just "Good job Mr Bell" or "thanks Pat for giving it all", "Thanks again, Pat & Shirley" Just what did Shirley do?, "Hard work pays off finally! Thanks, Pat!", "a big thank you to Pat for his help in making this happen" Still wondering.

acrider54,

Pat Bell was spent allot of time brokering the deals to get the Mackenzie mills open. That is common knowledge. I know a couple of people involved in the Conifex deals and they were very complimentary of his work.

As for Shirley, I have no idea in the world what she is up to or has done, I have never crossed paths with her or her work.

pat bell u did a great wonder for mckenzie,but bell how about p.g and the idled mills?thats a lot of jobs,with lumber over 320 and heading for 400,what excuse can these big companies use now?either payout the employees or employ them!

pgguru,

part of the problem for the "big" companies is timing.

It is pretty much agreed upon that the rise in price is currently tied to low inventories more than its tied to increase in demand.

In other words, if to many mills come on line, the inventory exceeds the demands again and prices drop.

With the mills in Mackenzie coming online along with a few others, inventories have to be watched closely.

Canfor will reopen their Quesnel mill before PG, once that one is cutting again Rustads should be next inline.

I think it will be a frosty Friday before the Rustad mill opens. (If ever) Canfor can up its production by going to two or three shifts in its other mills, and have sufficient capacity to supply all their customers.

As the price of lumber rises sales to China will plummet. They never pay high prices for lumber or pulp unless they absolutely have to.

Lumber production and sales that were taking place during the 2004-2008 years will never be repeated. This rise is housing was the result of a major con job by Governments, Banks, Mortgage companies, etc;, and the well have now gone dry.

The purchase of the MacKenzie pulp mill for $20 Million and loss that the BC Government and City will take, will be good for MacKenzie as long as the mill keeps operating, however we should realize that producing low cost pulp and selling it to China at low prices, effectively takes 500 Tonnes a day from other producers. Its within the realm of possibility that some other pulp mill in BC could shut down as a result. There is not an unlimited demand for pulp and paper on the world market.

Mrpg sez;
Struck a nerve? I'm not even close to caring about what you have to say (which isn't much), so try your best.


If you are so uninterested you would just stop talking to me; you boring little sheeple. Good night.