I know it is cliche but there is just so much distrust towards Cambell and the Libs in general. Say one thing and do another....

It also ticks me off when these people get into power and figure they can do whatever the heck they want because they are the 'Leaders' and they know what is best for everyone. Such arrogance....

Mercenary, have you ever been in a position where you are the decision maker and success or failure depends on the decision you make. You ask your co-workers, your family, your friends, even pay an expert or two depending on the situation.

In your exploration of the issues, you encounter several ideas, as well as several pleadings to listen to "reason".

You promise some of those who have advised you that you will take their ideas into consideration.

Eventually you are the one who has to make the decision and take the responsibility. You take the big dreaded step and make the decision and tell everyone and set the implementation in motion.

You are surprised at the reaction. Instead of being the person most have looked up to in the past, the people around you are disgruntled. You wonder what happened. You go on the defensive as you realize you cannot undo your decision. You know you struggled with the decision and you know others would have as well. But you were in the unfortunate position to have to make it.

If you have never been in such a position, perhaps you can imagine being in such a situation.

If neither is the case, I can only hope that one of these days you will be in that situation so that you might remember many of the others who have come before you and begin to see them in a different light as you walk for the first time in the same shoes.

Other premiers that have had to resign in the past have done nothing compared to what Campbell has gotten away with. IMHO

Gus are you new to the province? Do you not know the history of this present government. Its not about decision making, its about the lies.

I found this really interesting.
I posted this a couple of months ago with not a single, nada, zilch reply and yet their be some political announcement or just about any excuse and the Gordo's fault, Lieberals, Sheeple diatribe will work its way into the serial posters conversation.
Why is that?
Perhaps they only dwell on the bad.
Just pass the cheese because they already have the whine.
Any ways just for comment I will repeat this, realizing that some numbers may have changed a little.

It's Gordo's fault
A popular refrain woven inextricably into just about every comment by the serial posters on this site.
After doing some checking you may be right.
The Conference Board of Canada says the Olympic spinoffs and improved outlook in manufacturing and forestry will make BC the leader in economic growth in Canada.
According to Stats Canada the value of building permits during March 2010 was $881 Million, a 48% increase over March 2009.
Housing starts are up 120% over this period last year according to CMHC.
According to RBC, CIBC, TD, Scotiabank and Desjardins Group they project that BC will either lead or be in top three in job creation.
Stats Canada says BC created 22% of jobs in Canada.
Vancouver's economy expected to grow faster than any city in Canada.
55% of new mines in Canada are in BC.
And since everything is Gordo's fault
Then you must agree that the above is positively
Gordo's fault.

The whole point being.
Be careful what you wush for.

"Other premiers that have had to resign in the past have done nothing compared to what Campbell has gotten away with. IMHO"

I have yet to see an editorial cartoon of Campbell taking the wings off flies .... :-)

Ah ... how soon we forget.....

http://www.abcbookworld.com/view_author.php?id=4304

http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=49dd4a09-db4c-4294-9673-5766c1335115

At that time, Premier to be ..... :-)

My son just came back from Edmonton.
Gas is 86.9 a litre, here it is 107.9, so 21 cent more, almost 25 %, so do we make more money here, that we can afford that?
The restaurant chain he is working for, pays here in BC for a superviser $ 13.00 for 1 hour, in AB they have to pay $ 14.00 for somebody, who has to get trained as a line cook $ 14.00 starting wage, here in BC it is $ 9.00.
What are we doing wrong in BC, that AB is so fortunate?

suzir
Just a guess, but perhaps, Alberta has oil which everybody still needs and we have wood we are trying to sell to the US which doesn't need it and to China that we hope will need more of it.

And they have no HST!!!
And we sell wood to China -
And look at the furniture you are buying now - all made in China, and I guess, it is BC wood. Are we not able to produce it here? Would that not create jobs?
Would that not be better to save energie?
Shipping wood or logs to China and getting back some finished products. So 2 times shipping on the water - not logical to me.
And who wants to buy Made in China anyways,
it is cheap, doesn't last long, just waste of material and money.
I still prefer to buy Made in Canada or US or Europe, but it is getting harder to find, but at least it lasts much longer and you don't have to replace it every 1 or 2 years.

suzir.... Why not go to Walmart and find four things NOT Made in China? Something as simple as a bathtub mat. I'd buy Canadian, but no one makes anything in this country anymore. That's where yer jobs are. Imagine, Suzir Bathtub Mat Co. (Or anything else for that matter). Just two problems. Sorry to say. The first one is the bank. ("We're not a venture capital company, go elsewhere for money"), and the second one, if at all, you would be eventually become a unionized workforce making those bathmats overpriced, unaffordable and not competitive, simply put being you have to pay benefits to yer workers. Once you get around those two, you might be rich one day.

Well, I know myself, how hard it is , to find Made in Canada. But you still can find it.
I lately saw furniture in Zellers or Sears with a big tag with maple leaf and Made in Canada on it.
They don't do that with items Made in China, you have so check boxes and need almost a magnify to find out, it is Made in China. If you need a washer or electric water cooker, toaster, nothing made here anymore.
I don't have a problem, to pay for something, that has quality, but I have a problem to pay for .
So I hardly buy nothing anymore, I am happy with my old stuff and I am hoping it will last for a while.
I am actually from Europe, they tried it out there as well, to produce items in East European Countries, where the wages are low, but the result was soon, they stopped it in many cases. The quality was not good, many complains, customers were not happy and the companies could not make more profit what they were hoping for.
Maybe soon Canada will wake up as well!!!!

"...with a big tag with maple leaf and Made in Canada on it."

Better check everything! Perhaps it is only the Big Tag with the Maple Leaf that is made in Canada!

I actually checked the box, for I was shocked.
The box said as well Made In Canada

"I have yet to see an editorial cartoon of Campbell taking the wings off flies .. :-)"

But he sure has plucked all feathers

"And look at the furniture you are buying now - all made in China, and I guess, it is BC wood."

Quality furniture is made from hardwoods. Oak, Birch, Maple, Cherry, etc.

We sell softwood. Ikea and JSK have furniture made from softwood.

Lots of Chinese furniture is probably made from bamboo. We do not have bamboo and we think Birch is garbage wood.

RIP
Comparing March 2009 and March 2010 it would be hard to find many things that did not improve. Take some stocks, Teck has gone from well under $10.00 a share to almost $40.00, Cat has gone from the low thirties to the mid sixties, the Royal bank from the twenties to the fifties, same with Scotia. I don't think we can credit Gordon Campbell with the positive change in the stock market or much else.
Gordon's problem is he lied to the public and continues to do so. He just doesn't get it about the HST. Even after recall and he is out of power he will still be baffled.

to GUS
I think birch is great wood, no garbage.
And look at JYSK, a danish Copmpany, but the pine wood furniture is now Made in China - and I am sure, it it BC pine.
Seems we like selling all our resources, instead of making something out of it.
The country I am born, was in the old days World Export Master No. 1, but we sold finished good like cars, steel, etc., we never sold raw materials.
After WW 2 not much was left, still we made it and did good, built factories, no unemplyment, everybody was busy and we had no problems.
Spo Canada is not able to do that?
We have to sell all the resources to China? What a world!!!

Directory of 365 Canadian furniture manufacturers
http://www.furniturelink.ca

Canadel http://www.canadel.com

Palliser http://www.palliser.com

Bestar http://www.bestar.com

Bermex http://www.bermex.ca

Durham http://www.durhamfurniture.com

Edgewood http://www.edgewoodfurniture.com

Hauser http:// http://www.hauserstores.com

Jaymar http:// http://www.jaymar.ca

Morette’s http://www.morettesfurniture.com

Simmons http://www.simmonscanada.com

Most Canadian manufacturers of furniture as well as clothing are located in Quebec.

And then there is Bombardier ... Canuck made planes ...

Notice that the province of Quebec is not exactly the richest province in Canada. Wealth comes first and foremost from oil ... then form oil ... and then from oil ... and if it has to be removed from sand, better still because it costs more to produce and that money is spread around a bit more to $14+ an hour neophyte burger flippers.... :-)

Oh ... make sure you bring lots of money if you want to buy furniture made in Canada. Also, don't concern yourself too much about the latest aesthetic designs ... the Italians have that corner of the market almost all to themselves.

When you make products for your store in China, you get to sell the products in that country. Lots of advantages to that.

http://www.jysk.com/frontpage/press/show_press_releases.htm?newsid=42789

You even get to invite the King and Queen to the opening of a store in China.

Quality costs always something, nothing wrong with it. It lasts longer, so you can enjoy it much longer.
Mercedes still builds cars in Germany, don't think, they will ever produce in China. Same with Porsche, Lamborghini.
So I guess they still do good and many people like these quality products.
Sometimes here in the New World they should listen to the Old World.

Car manufacturing has become a world wide process. Parts are made all over the world and shipped to assembly plants which themselves are located in different parts of the world. Ownership too is changing with the economy.

USA Mercedes plant in Alabama (low wage and production costs) http://mbusi.com/pages/factory_home.asp

Chinese motor production facility in progress. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSWEA418920100528

In the early days, as other countries start to build up an industry, quality production is generally lacking. Once they gain experience, however, that changes. We have seen that in my lifetime with products from Japan, Korea and Taiwan. Those countries are now among the leaders in many manufactured products. China is no different. The impression I have is that they have the same work ethic as the traditional Europeans. So, they are a multiple threat at the moment. It won't be that much longer before they catch up with the wage gap and be faced with some of the same problems. However, they have one thing going for them right now, a large country with a large population and still a centrally driven economy from what I can tell. That may change.

"Quality costs always something, nothing wrong with it. It lasts longer, so you can enjoy it much longer."

Depends on what it is. I still have top of the line Super VHS camera and recorder/player. They have outlived the technology many years ago and make good book ends.

Mercedes in India

http://www.benzinsider.com/2009/02/mercedes-benz-opens-new-manufacturing-plant-in-pune-india

We have to remember India, the silent nation next in line.

Canada and the USA needs to learn from some of the Europeans how to keep up with the manufacturing game.

As I keep saying, watch how Bombardier does it and follow their lead. We are just as capable as others of competing on a global scale. We just need a few more people who have that mindset, especially those in governments since that is one of the key differences between those countries and ours, is the support the manufacturers get from the government.

The other thing we must not forget is that Mercedes is THE workhorse (trucks and buses) in many developing countries.

"With its divisions Mercedes-Benz Cars, Daimler Trucks, Mercedes-Benz Vans, Daimler Buses and Daimler Financial Services, the Daimler Group is one of the biggest producers of premium cars and THE WORLD’S BIGGEST MANUFACTURER OF COMMERCIAL VEHICLES with a global reach"

http://europeanmotornews.com/2010/07/30/mercedes-benz-vans-back-on-track-to-success

I was talking about cars and not commercial vehicles.
But I heard Obama saying today, that the US has to start doing more production in the country and have to stop to produce in China or Europe for the US market.
So finally one woke up.