Level the whole place, then plant corn.

It's too bad the council at the time couldn't have protected the green space where the casino now lies.

I do not mind "green" space. I wonder if anyone ever notices the "green" space on the northeast corner of that intersection. It would be nice to take a bit better care of it.

The north west corner is also "green". No building there, even though someone could actually build one there if they wished.

I think more important is to look at what the long range plans for that intersection are. Would there ever be a need for a grade separation there? In that case, space needs to be preserved for that as well.

That property belonged to the province. They wanted to sell it at a good price. The casino gave them that.

The main probelm I have is when are they going to fix the western end of their property and when is the city going to decide what they are going to do with that poor excuse of a vistors' hut? That's the real eyesore at that corner right now.

Perhaps the planners could consider a roundabout for future improvement of that intersection and the Casino could build their new convention centre, second hotel and performing arts centre tight up to the intersection ..... just like this project in Oslo, Norway.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/noobikon/3560672743/sizes/l/in/photostream

Big roundabout on 16 and 97, that would be a great source of entertainment. The city could set up bleachers for people to watch the show. One of my favourite memories of traveling Europe was watching the traffic in the big roundabout surrounding the Arc de Triomphe in Paris. It was hilarious.

It is amazing to see people handling the roundabout. People just don't get it, that the driver in the ring has the right of way.

"It is amazing to see people handling the roundabout. People just don't get it, that the driver in the ring has the right of way."

Speaking of Paris and Madrid, and Rome and and roundabouts in such places, the RIGHT of way is given to the vehicle on the RIGHT. That is why it is called the RIGHT of way. In fact, in Belgium one has to watch out for unsignalized intersections where moving traffic from the RIGHT has the RIGHT of way.

So, I do not find it amazing at all that people do not understand that people in the roundabout, or rotary as it is known in some parts of the world, have priority. That is not the common situation.

The most common situation is the notion of allowing people to merge into the rotary traffic as is explained in the link. The idea is to provide a continuing traffic flow, not to impede traffic from the less populated incoming road.

The other is, of course, to not hog the right lane in the rotary until you are approaching the road you will be exiting on. So, it becomes interesting when a multi lane road enters into a multi lane rotary and vehicles move towards the centre and then back out again as they approach their exit intersection.

http://www.wikihow.com/Drive-in-a-Rotary

Here is a site that speaks about the change in France and how it is not catching on quite yet. (near bottom of page)

http://www.softseattravel.com/Driving_France_International_Traffic_Symbols.html

And here is an interesting on from Boston. There is the legal way, and then there is actual practice. (half way down the page)

http://www.boston-online.com/bostonet.html

from that page:
"Once, the rules of the rotary were simple: Whoever had the least to lose had the right of way. Mr. Boston used to love outdueling nice shiny new Cadillacs and Lexuses in his old beater of an '81 Omni with the crushed-in hood and liberal amounts of rust. No way would Mr. $30,000 Behemothmobile dare a chrome-bender! Zip, zip, zip went Mr. Boston as he raced around the rotary.

But all that was before sport utility vehicles. The people who drive these things are nuts. They think they can ignore the rules of physics in the snow and they show no fear in rotaries, comforted, no doubt, by those recent studies that show that in a collision between an SUV and a normal vehicle, the SUV will crush the regular auto like a bug against a windshield. So Mr. Boston is forced to fall back on the Second Law of Rotaries:

In a big rotary, like the ones that make up the West Roxbury Parkway, whoever's already in the rotary has the right of way. In a little rotary, like the ones along Fresh Pond Parkway, whoever's not in the rotary has the right of way.

Please note that these are empirical rules, not legal ones (legally, the person in the rotary ALWAYS has the right of way). For some reason, the above is just the way it works, i.e., when Mr. Boston is on the West Roxbury Parkway, he notices that people entering the rotary usually stop for oncoming traffic; but when driving along Fresh Pond Parkway, people already in the rotary usually stop for incoming traffic.

So, the more roundabouts we build, the more they will each take on their own charcteristics ... LOL

enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5kMs5ph5F4

put rotary traffic into you tube for even more fun ...:-)

I wish I were there!!! Not !!!!!!

It appears that for now one of the best looking and useful buildings in Prince George - the Playhouse Theatre - has been saved from the wrecking ball!

Here you can see that in practical application in Paris the person entering the roatry has the right of way ... :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lay8aZlsbB0

Yes, that is one of the likely consequences of the decision.

Of course, they will not be building a PAC for another 40 years anyway, so it will be around for some time in either case since I do not think the City would want to ter the building donw without a replacement.

Then again, the Convention centre the Casino may build one of these days could include a large theatre for cabaret style seating which would mean that a PAC would have to be supported primarily by local groups. That would put a whole new spin on the marketing of such a centre.

Have we got the experts going this morning. Maybe for all the future growth of the City we should install an over pass. We could be the Los Angeles of the north. Lets just take it one step at a time. The City has to be applauded for taking option No 3.
Cheers

Retired 02 saying we could become the Los Angeles of the north. You could be closer to the truth than you thought since Los Angeles and California are on the verge of going bankrupt. Are we headed that way?

Ah I was just trying to be nice for a change but Schwarznegger ( all you experts give me a hand on spelling Arnolds name)is available for lessons.
Cheers

This is just a clever way of saying "we're not going to build a PAC."