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Winter Games Levy Set

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Monday, February 28, 2011 05:20 PM

Prince George, B.C.- You can expect to see a special Canada Winter Games levy on your tax bill this year.
Prince George City Council has approved moving forward with a plan that would add a new 2% levy on your bill this year and a further 1.18% next year  to make that levy 3.18% in 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015.
 
While Councillor Debora Munoz is very concerned about the  cost of the Games, with the overall capital and operational costs in the $49 million  range,  Mayor Dan Rogers reminded Council that  Council had already  approved the business plan for the Games.
 
The City will need to contribute a little over $17.4 million dollars for the Kin Centre replacement, underwater lighting at the aquatic centre, improved lighting at the Coliseum, and half a million dollars for a Games Village Plaza downtown where the medals will be handed out and celebrations will take place.

 

Council was presented with three options:

  1. A  3.10% increase in each of the years leading up to the games ( including 2015). 
  2. 2% this year, ($1,308,937.00) additional 1.38% in years 2012- 2015 ($2,211,884 each of the next four years)
  3. 2% this year, ($1,308,937.00) plus additional 1.18% in 2012 for 3.18% levy in each of the years thereafter through 2015
Councillor Munoz supported option three saying she thought it was the most sustainable way to go.  Councillor Cameron Stolz  echoed that  support. 
 
Councillor Dave Wilbur says the  winning of the bid was one of the greatest moments in the City of Prince George, he  is certain  the City will  do well.  His only concern is that in  2011,  the need is for $778,639 dollars, but collecting  the full 2%  will  collect an extra $450 thousand.  He understands the desire to build a Cushion, he says economically, he favours setting a Winter Games tax levy rate by what is needed for 2011, then  boosting the  rate in years to come.
 
Manager of Financial Services, Sandy Stibrany, says  option  three creates a smooth transition,  and while a lower rate would be palatable this year,  the amount that would be needed in future years would be a little hard to swallow.  She says if the plan  was to  collect only the amount needed  for 2011 , that would be 1.1%.  Then, in order to raise the money  needed to cover the City's $7.875 million dollar capital committment,  the tax hike in 2012 would have to be 12%.
 
Councillor Wilbur  moved that the  levy for 2011 be cut  to .5%.  Mayor Dan Rogers says that  would just delay the amount the taxes will have to be  boosted in future years.
 
It was not lost on Councillor Don Bassermann that this is an election year, and any effort to  keep taxes down  should be examined in that context.
 
Councillor Murry Krause  supported option 3 as presented.
 
Councillor Sherri Greene is just back from the Winter Games in Halifax and says the most recent projection for economic impact from those games for Halifax is $125 milliion dollars and she  supports option 3.
 
Councillor Brian Skakun said he would support  a smaller increase because he  is aware of those who  are on fixed income or reduced income.  While he would support  a plan that would  reduce the tax levy for the games, he said he would not support option 3.
 
The proposed amendment was defeated  with only  Wilbur and Skakun  voting in favour of the  amendment.
 
Option three was approved with Councillors Wilbur and Skakun recorded as opposed.
 
The  Winter Games levy  will be a  specific line item on the tax bill. 
 

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How about a levy on the hotels and restaurants that are going to directly benefit and leave my taxes alone.
I'm glad I don't own a home in PG.
I did not want or ask for these games , why should I pay? Good job Prince George city council. Force something on us and then make us pay for it.
What was council thinking when they agreed to this.....
time for an election...
perfomance hell hole will be next tax burden I am sure...
They seem to have money for all the no-esentials and none for the necessities...
So since the city is raising taxes and every other little thing they can with more fees(garbage being one). will i be able to raise the price that i ask for my rental house by over 4% a year. oh and i promise to decrease it when the games are over. To all those people that will be complaining that your rent is going up in Prince George do not complain to your landlord. We now have no choice but to raise prices, thanks to your city council.
At least tell us how much our tax bills will go down after the games and we are all prosperous. Can we at least have a referendum on the PAC. Don't believe I can afford both right at the moment.
I can't wait to see how they are going to sell the Performing Arts Center! Did I hear they've already spent close to a million bucks on that boondoggle? Might be better to build some new bathrooms at Vanier Hall... maybe some new lights.

I can't remember seeing anything about the tax boost in the local media when all the hype about how this was SO necessary (Canada Games) for Prince George to return to the glory days... LOL...

I don't see how this sells more lumber, or reopens mills... which if I remember correctly pays da bills in PG...

my 2cents.
Studies have shown that the economic impact of these games and other big ticket items are highly overrated. In fact a case can be made that a number of business's actually lose money.

Most people in Prince George could care less about these games, however they will have to pay for them, so that a bunch of atheletes and their managers, and families can come to town and have a good time.

I dont have a good feeling about the end result of these games. Hopefully they will be a success, but dont hold your breath. Kamloops and Kelowna are not exactly crying because they didnt get the bid. In fact I think they are releived. We just saved them millions in tax dollars.

Pr George being in the middle of the Province in a frozen wasteland, will not attract too many people to these games. Why would you come from the Southern Interior, Vancouver,or the Island when you can watch them on TV??

Its these types of decisions, along with the PAC, etc; that keeps our taxes going up. When will it stop?? When we go bankrupt?? Seems so.
"Councillor Sherri Greene is just back from the Winter Games in Halifax and says the most recent projection for economic impact from those games for Halifax is $125 milliion dollars"

Is there a simple ledger somewhere that will tell those who are interested in what their tax dollars are being used for?

I cannot tell from the above how much our taxes are going to be raised. The five year total under option 3 looks like it will bring in close to $10million, the $1.3 in 2011 and $2.1 in 2011, 2013, 2014 and 2015. I am not sure if 2015 is supposed to be in there.

Then what about the $17.4 replacement for the kin centre? Where is that money coming from? Has a reserve been set aside for that yet or will that be amortized over 20 years or so and we'll have to pay 2% more for that over the 20 years?

And, of course the main thing, do the taxpayers get back any of the money "invested"? What part of that $125 million economic impact will be returned to City Hall and the taxpayers so that the taxes paid will be returned? Will the kin centre, which I am told needs to be replaced, become the so called "legacy" to this community that we will not have to pay for?

It would be really great if someone at City Hall could make a simple graph for even dumb people like me to understand.
From the above article:

"Prince George City Council has approved moving forward with a plan that would .."

Is that the same meaning as:

"Prince George City Council has approved a plan that would .."

;-)
Prince George will be in the lead for another first. First city in Canada to declare bankruptcy.
First in crime.
Come election time we need an ABR. Anybody But Rodgers. My Dog has more smarts than the present city council members combined. Atleast he knows when the dog dish is empty to quit going back and get more. The dish is empty council............Do you not get it!!! Now even my dog will go hungry.
This council is an embarassment to the people of PG,and the whole province.Our Federal government is warning Canadians not to borrow and overspend for risk of jeopardizing the economic recovery,and these clowns are on a shopping spree.When are they going to clue in?
If they have the mental capacity to do anything right with their new "windfall" they should at least build the new arena and not tear down Kin 1,perhaps selling some commercial space along with it to provide a source of revenue......I guess that would be too backwards.
Please do not call them clowns! Next they will be wanting some sort of performing arts grant.We all know who coughs up that money.
WOW!I can't express my feelings towards this as I would be expelled from using this site.I just can't for the life of me figure out how some politicians ca be so daft & dumb!!!
How much for that new RCMP building? Sounds
like THAT money should be used for something else.....
Bassermanns comments show that his motives have nothing to do with what is good for Prince George, and only what is good with keeping him as a councillor.

have we not learned anything from the van olympics???
they need the citizens of this city to volunteer to help the games, thats how they function, so dont. it would be great if they didnt have the volunteer support because they have pissed us off so much. i'm certainly not going to spend one cent other than the taxes forced down on me for these games.
Everyone pays so a few can play, can you imagine if they spent that kind of money on education, health care, I could on by why

Living outside the city limits is great, you get all the benefits of PG (and there's not that many) and don't have to pay their taxes. I pay less than $500 a year for everything(can you just imagine)

Just to rub it in; this last snow fall it snowed until 4:00am at night and my street was plowed two hours later and I don't live on a bus route. But saying that I do have to deal with RDFFG which is no better that dealing with Prince George City Council from the sounds of it.
Bill, I agree. I'm selling & moving outside city limits. I can't afford to live in the city anymore.
Thanks for the laugh Denaljo!
just gonna get worse,this is just the first step ,you have no voice here or in victoria or ottawa,now sit back a watch your rights fly away
To even entertain the idea that we can afford the Winter Games proves that something is wrong with the bean counters downtown. I am still pissed that this was foisted on us. Hydro, groceries,commodities etc are all going up up, up, it's hard enough to budget for these eventualities and then to have tax dollars squandered on frivolities, it gets harder and harder to take. The time to tighten our belt would have been before all the nonsense with River Road and the building of unnecessary berms IMHO for starters, but that's another mess that everyone seems to have forgotten. No one has any common sense anymore. Federally, Provincially or municipally.
I believe that the committe that did the bid for the Winter Games should be the ones to raise the money and build what is needed for the games. The money should not come from the taxpayers. There is two advantages to this, our taxes do not go up and the buidlings etc. that are need will be built at a lower cost. Once they know that they can get $ from the City (taxpayers) they will not count the pennies.